Beauden Barrett getting rissolled from teh 10 shirt by i assume Joe Schmidt was a huge part of why the ABs turned their form around halfway through that tour to South Africa and saved Fosters job. RMo wasn't even great, he was just better than BB, and that's all that was needed (RMo was pretty bloody good by the World Cup play offs though).
And here we are, 3 years later, he's restored to the shirt, playing just as shit as he was then, yet seemingly nailed on to start. It defies belief.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France II:
And here we are, 3 years later, he's restored to the shirt, playing just as shit as he was then, yet seemingly nailed on to start. It defies belief.
He does have good hair though.
@Frank said in All Blacks v France II:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France II:
And here we are, 3 years later, he's restored to the shirt, playing just as shit as he was then, yet seemingly nailed on to start. It defies belief.
He does have good hair though.
well, it doesn't take a long bow to think our head coach puts a lot of weight on that factor
@Dan54 said in All Blacks v France II:
@brodean understand your point etc, but I doubt whether Love is even been considered starting for ABs this week, after about 4-5 games at most starting for Canes. And I a Canes man (and Love fan). I doubt any test coach in world would consider a starting 10 with so little experience.
complete aside, but this is the problem with NZ having 5 pro teams.
That's 5 jobs where you get like 16 games a year maybe, and you'll probably get rotated out for a couple of those.
With a couple of long tenured guys, you're left with kids who haven't got the shits and left yet, or journeymen who can't get a better playing gig somewhere else.
The ABs are basically forced in to the same two guys, or someone who has played fuck all.
@Dan54 said in All Blacks v France II:
@brodean understand your point etc, but I doubt whether Love is even been considered starting for ABs this week, after about 4-5 games at most starting for Canes. And I a Canes man (and Love fan). I doubt any test coach in world would consider a starting 10 with so little experience.
You're probably right about consideration from the coaches. Doesn't mean they're right.
The guy is 24 now. He's had 5 years of Super Rugby experience and started 13 games for the Canes at 10. It's an experimental French B/C team. Beauden Barrett had already played 24 tests at 24. We're too conservative now.
@brodean said in All Blacks v France II:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks v France II:
@brodean understand your point etc, but I doubt whether Love is even been considered starting for ABs this week, after about 4-5 games at most starting for Canes. And I a Canes man (and Love fan). I doubt any test coach in world would consider a starting 10 with so little experience.
You're probably right about consideration from the coaches. Doesn't mean they're right.
The guy is 24 now. He's had 5 years of Super Rugby experience and started 13 games for the Canes at 10. It's an experimental French B/C team. Beauden Barrett had already played 24 tests at 24. We're too conservative now.
Problem is that coaches at Canes (rightly or wrongly) haven't thought Love is good enough to steer them around field at 10. Their job is to do what they think is best for Canes, and selectors have to (I think) select on a good body of work, so they have confidence they won't cock up in tests.
I tend to agree I would like to see more of Love, but if at 10 off bench. Her starts and makes a few balls ups, imagine the melt down (and in press etc) about playing him before he ready.
@Dan54 said in All Blacks v France II:
@brodean said in All Blacks v France II:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks v France II:
@brodean understand your point etc, but I doubt whether Love is even been considered starting for ABs this week, after about 4-5 games at most starting for Canes. And I a Canes man (and Love fan). I doubt any test coach in world would consider a starting 10 with so little experience.
You're probably right about consideration from the coaches. Doesn't mean they're right.
The guy is 24 now. He's had 5 years of Super Rugby experience and started 13 games for the Canes at 10. It's an experimental French B/C team. Beauden Barrett had already played 24 tests at 24. We're too conservative now.
Problem is that coaches at Canes (rightly or wrongly) haven't thought Love is good enough to steer them around field at 10. Their job is to do what they think is best for Canes, and selectors have to (I think) select on a good body of work, so they have confidence they won't cock up in tests.
I tend to agree I would like to see more of Love, but if at 10 off bench. Her starts and makes a few balls ups, imagine the melt down (and in press etc) about playing him before he ready.
Laidlaw shat the bed by reinstating Cameron as the starter when he returned from injury. Bad for the Canes, bad for Love and his AB potential
@canefan said in All Blacks v France II:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks v France II:
@brodean said in All Blacks v France II:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks v France II:
@brodean understand your point etc, but I doubt whether Love is even been considered starting for ABs this week, after about 4-5 games at most starting for Canes. And I a Canes man (and Love fan). I doubt any test coach in world would consider a starting 10 with so little experience.
You're probably right about consideration from the coaches. Doesn't mean they're right.
The guy is 24 now. He's had 5 years of Super Rugby experience and started 13 games for the Canes at 10. It's an experimental French B/C team. Beauden Barrett had already played 24 tests at 24. We're too conservative now.
Problem is that coaches at Canes (rightly or wrongly) haven't thought Love is good enough to steer them around field at 10. Their job is to do what they think is best for Canes, and selectors have to (I think) select on a good body of work, so they have confidence they won't cock up in tests.
I tend to agree I would like to see more of Love, but if at 10 off bench. Her starts and makes a few balls ups, imagine the melt down (and in press etc) about playing him before he ready.Laidlaw shat the bed by reinstating Cameron as the starter when he returned from injury. Bad for the Canes, bad for Love and his AB potential
Speaking of body of work - there was more than enough body of work to show that Brett Cameron wasn't the answer but Laidlaw went that path anyway.
