2022 All Blacks NH tour

Machpants · 2022-10-06T23:23:10.212Z

Mildly amusing. But he’s a great ref now https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/130087509/referee-wayne-barnes-to-get-world-test-record-with-help-from-all-blacks Georgia’s Nika Amashukel...

Machpants3 years ago

Mildly amusing. But he’s a great ref now

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Georgia’s Nika Amashukeli takes charge of the first test of the window when he handles Japan against New Zealand in Tokyo on October 29.

Ireland’s Frank Murphy will control the All Blacks against Scotland in Edinburgh on November 14.

Australian Nic Berry will whistle the All Blacks against England at Twickenham on November 20.

It seems that once you’re in as an international ref, you’re in. No matter how appalling c.f. Barnes. You can’t say WR don’t give ref’s time to develop!

Frye3 years ago

Berry against England is a good appointment for NZ.

Bovidae3 years ago

Amashukeli also has the Ireland-SA game, so WR hasn't learnt.

Crucial3 years ago

@Machpants there is a clip of the infamous missed forward pass by Barnes in that article and it is almost identical to the missed one by Reynal in the first Bled game this year. So similar that you could say that one planned move was a copy of the other.

Crucial3 years ago

@Bovidae said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:

Amashukeli also has the Ireland-SA game, so WR hasn't learnt.

But they can claim how good they are at improving ref quality but starting from such a low base.
Barnes is about to become the most capped ref ever and he can be a very good ref for 95% of any given game. The along comes the other 5%.....
After all these years he still gets tangled up in play more than any ref I have ever seen.

Machpants3 years ago

Gawd he's an unispiring speaker

canefan3 years ago

@Machpants said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:

Mildly amusing. But he’s a great ref now

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Georgia’s Nika Amashukeli takes charge of the first test of the window when he handles Japan against New Zealand in Tokyo on October 29.

Ireland’s Frank Murphy will control the All Blacks against Scotland in Edinburgh on November 14.

Australian Nic Berry will whistle the All Blacks against England at Twickenham on November 20.

It seems that once you’re in as an international ref, you’re in. No matter how appalling c.f. Barnes. You can’t say WR don’t give ref’s time to develop!

Lots of learnings

MN53 years ago

@canefan said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:

@Machpants said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:

Mildly amusing. But he’s a great ref now

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Georgia’s Nika Amashukeli takes charge of the first test of the window when he handles Japan against New Zealand in Tokyo on October 29.

Ireland’s Frank Murphy will control the All Blacks against Scotland in Edinburgh on November 14.

Australian Nic Berry will whistle the All Blacks against England at Twickenham on November 20.

It seems that once you’re in as an international ref, you’re in. No matter how appalling c.f. Barnes. You can’t say WR don’t give ref’s time to develop!

Lots of learnings

Scotland to put 50 on them at Murrayfield.

16 days later

Stargazer3 years ago

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Stargazer3 years ago

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Official:

allblacks SQUAD UPDATES | Unfortunately @samcane7 & Dane Coles will be returning to New Zealand after picking up injuries in last nights match. Sam - fractured cheekbone, Dane - calf. All the best with your recovery fellas

@pattytuips, @damianmckenzie_, @tuivasasheck & @braydonennor will join the @allblacksxv in Dublin

@leicester_f will rejoin the squad and @billy_harmon has been called in.

Telea and @asafoaumua will stay with the squad.

That stuff article posted in other threads clearly missed a bit of info.

#11

pakman3 years ago

#11

@Stargazer Interesting that RTS and Ennor off to XV and glad that Leicester sorted.

#12

TheMojoman3 years ago

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@Stargazer said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:

Official:

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allblacks SQUAD UPDATES | Unfortunately @samcane7 & Dane Coles will be returning to New Zealand after picking up injuries in last nights match. Sam - fractured cheekbone, Dane - calf. All the best with your recovery fellas

@pattytuips, @damianmckenzie_, @tuivasasheck & @braydonennor will join the @allblacksxv in Dublin

@leicester_f will rejoin the squad and @billy_harmon has been called in.

Telea and @asafoaumua will stay with the squad.

That stuff article posted in other threads clearly missed a bit of info.

They must be confident Retallick will escape suspension if they’re sending Tuipulotu to AB XV.

Positive is Papali’i will get an extended run in the 7 jersey. He was dynamite off the bench last night.
Happy for Aumua. Keeping Coles around has hindered his development.

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ACT Crusader3 years ago

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@TheMojoman said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:

@Stargazer said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:

Official:

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allblacks SQUAD UPDATES | Unfortunately @samcane7 & Dane Coles will be returning to New Zealand after picking up injuries in last nights match. Sam - fractured cheekbone, Dane - calf. All the best with your recovery fellas

@pattytuips, @damianmckenzie_, @tuivasasheck & @braydonennor will join the @allblacksxv in Dublin

@leicester_f will rejoin the squad and @billy_harmon has been called in.

Telea and @asafoaumua will stay with the squad.

That stuff article posted in other threads clearly missed a bit of info.

They must be confident Retallick will escape suspension if they’re sending Tuipulotu to AB XV.

Positive is Papali’i will get an extended run in the 7 jersey. He was dynamite off the bench last night.
Happy for Aumua. Keeping Coles around has hindered his development.

Was he? I’m not sure I can watch it again, but I didn’t think he stood out (other than the hair of course).

I’m a fan of what he can bring though.

If we assume that Ardie is going to start all three tests, the question they may be considering is, do we start Papali’i or Sotutu? It’s not beyond the possibility with Cane injured that they move Ardie. They’ve done it before.

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Dan543 years ago

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@ACT-Crusader said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:

@TheMojoman said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:

@Stargazer said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:

Official:

View embedded content

allblacks SQUAD UPDATES | Unfortunately @samcane7 & Dane Coles will be returning to New Zealand after picking up injuries in last nights match. Sam - fractured cheekbone, Dane - calf. All the best with your recovery fellas

@pattytuips, @damianmckenzie_, @tuivasasheck & @braydonennor will join the @allblacksxv in Dublin

@leicester_f will rejoin the squad and @billy_harmon has been called in.

Telea and @asafoaumua will stay with the squad.

That stuff article posted in other threads clearly missed a bit of info.

They must be confident Retallick will escape suspension if they’re sending Tuipulotu to AB XV.

Positive is Papali’i will get an extended run in the 7 jersey. He was dynamite off the bench last night.
Happy for Aumua. Keeping Coles around has hindered his development.

Was he? I’m not sure I can watch it again, but I didn’t think he stood out (other than the hair of course).

I’m a fan of what he can bring though.

If we assume that Ardie is going to start all three tests, the question they may be considering is, do we start Papali’i or Sotutu? It’s not beyond the possibility with Cane injured that they move Ardie. They’ve done it before.

Genuinely think Dalton will go to 7, Harmon will be cover at 7.

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Kiwiwomble3 years ago

#15

@Dan54 yeah, i hope we see harmon too, i think someone on a great run of form can really spark when given a glimpse of the big show

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Dan543 years ago

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@Kiwiwomble said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:

@Dan54 yeah, i hope we see harmon too, i think someone on a great run of form can really spark when given a glimpse of the big show

I really believe he is there as he rightly or wrongly seen as the body type that is wanted at test level, think that is what holds back Kirifi and Christie, the game is so power focusses now the day of a smaller jackal type player at 7 is almost gone and someone who can make dominant tackles is wanted?

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Old Samurai Jack3 years ago

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Unfortunately, Cane is so off the pace at the moment. It was obvious on Saturday when Papali'i came on the aggression ranked up a lot. I am keen to see how Harmon goes in black if he gets an opportunity. He was a one-man machine for the Clan when he finally came back.

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KiwiMurph3 years ago

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@ACT-Crusader said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:

It’s not beyond the possibility with Cane injured that they move Ardie. They’ve done it before.

Genuine question - when was the last time Ardie started at 7 for the ABs?

Papalii started Bledisloe 2 at 7 and was excellent.

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Duluth3 years ago

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@KiwiMurph

Looks like it was the second Bok test last year

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TheMojoman3 years ago

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@ACT-Crusader said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:

@TheMojoman said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:

@Stargazer said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:

Official:

View embedded content

allblacks SQUAD UPDATES | Unfortunately @samcane7 & Dane Coles will be returning to New Zealand after picking up injuries in last nights match. Sam - fractured cheekbone, Dane - calf. All the best with your recovery fellas

@pattytuips, @damianmckenzie_, @tuivasasheck & @braydonennor will join the @allblacksxv in Dublin

@leicester_f will rejoin the squad and @billy_harmon has been called in.

Telea and @asafoaumua will stay with the squad.

That stuff article posted in other threads clearly missed a bit of info.

They must be confident Retallick will escape suspension if they’re sending Tuipulotu to AB XV.

Positive is Papali’i will get an extended run in the 7 jersey. He was dynamite off the bench last night.
Happy for Aumua. Keeping Coles around has hindered his development.

Was he? I’m not sure I can watch it again, but I didn’t think he stood out (other than the hair of course).

I’m a fan of what he can bring though.

If we assume that Ardie is going to start all three tests, the question they may be considering is, do we start Papali’i or Sotutu? It’s not beyond the possibility with Cane injured that they move Ardie. They’ve done it before.

Papali'i was very good, I think 9 tackles in 14 mins plus the turnover which iced the game. He and Tuipulotu (as with most of the bench) did their job in bringing energy.

I think to reduce disruption they'll straight swap Papali'i for Cane and keep Ardie at 8. That way they can free up a bench spot for Sotutu who I thought, barring the turnover on the tryline was generally good.

I can't see Frizell backing up against Wales. He's turning into the modern day Reuben Thorne which is not all bad, you need solid blindsides who do the dirty work, make their tackles, solid carries, rucks/mauls. Akira does that and provides much more with ball-in hand.