We've seen the limits of the Canterbury Mates Club. No more needs to be seen. The false dawn of defending the Bledisloe won't change my mind.
What this team lacks is the influence of old school rugby values. Mongrel.
The new age Razor positivity approach is overcomplicated and plain ineffective.
If Razor is not fired at the end of the season, then, at a minimum, he needs old school dissenting voices forced on him
Got to the 30 min mark earlier, then had to go out. A mate messaged me the result so making notes as I go throw. Trying to be measured here.
Intercept try is the old 14 point swing.
Hotham’s self inflicted concussion and Samisoni’s missed tackle on Marx (35mins ish) on the sideline… so poor you couldn’t even call them amateur level. Samisoni then got put on his backside by Wiese because he had his head on the wrong side again.
D-Mac with the unforgivable chip straight to the Boks. That’s a classic ABs of recent years. Under the pump, get decent ball and kick it nowhere.
First try after HT is a consequence of the scrum, nothing more or less…. You think until you watch Wallace Sititi during the play. Have a look.
45 min - Christie gets hit high by Wiese as he collects the ball. Not saying it is or isn’t a pen or YC because he was picking up the ball. But he got hit in the head. Stay the fuck down and force the ref to make the call. Smarten up. This is 2025 ffs. Play went on and ended up with Vaai’s lazy shoulder so they went past it.
48 mins. Wiese takes an obvious liberty with Jordie after the whistle.
52: wrong call from Jordan but well done to the Boks for getting back.
Scrum is main concern during this period. High balls kind of going wrong both ways a bit, but Boks having more of the ball and more accuracy with the kick and chase looks better for them. Can’t even say it’s a back 3 issue. Whole team.
Proctor’s night is over. I kind of feel that this many games in we should be looking at him and thinking ‘he’s good’ but still have no idea.
Boks score again after Jordie gets beaten high then the eventual line out goes wrong.
And then the next one. And the next one. I think we’re starting to realise how good Codie Taylor is.
Kwagga’s try just great rugby.
Another high ball…then another one… how old are Cory Jane’s children these days?
It’s one thing to get beat by what you don’t know but they’re getting killed by exactly what they knew was coming. That’s on the coach.
The Boks look like the ABs used to.
I know some of you are pointing figures at some players but this is on Razor. 100%.
Having a different 10 wouldn’t have made a bit. Biggest concern for me was the loosies. Wallace doesn’t look fit and Parker is just kind of there.
The concerns about the coaching mix are justified.
But must remember that the Boks served up some dogswater first up against Oz. They’ve done it the opposite way to the ABs - having the bad game first in both series.
Great for the comp. Nice to play Oz with the outcome seriously in the balance.
@game_film said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
I know some of you are pointing figures at some players but this is on Razor. 100%.
It's not like everyone of them are bad players all of a sudden. They look like they have no idea what they're doing, unless they get turnover ball.
@Tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@antipodean Jesus Christ, rugby media is so fucking servile and clueless!
This came up on my timeline a week or so ago. - what a load of simpering intellectual masturbation
"What’s striking about Razor’s coaching style is how thoughtfully holistic it is.
Scott Robertson has mastered both rugby tactics and behavioural science. The self-proclaimed visionary lends his creativity to game-breaking attacking schemes and stifling defence. His IQ is impressive and while clearly a cut above the rest, what separates him is his EQ".
The messages that are delivered are carefully crafted to be concise and clear. Robertson’s experience at coaching workshops worldwide – at Saracens, the Brisbane Broncos, the Melbourne Storm, West Ham, the San Antonio Spurs and the Dallas Cowboys to name a few – have all informed and developed this skill.
This one quote sums up his approach perfectly: “I don’t motivate people, I inspire people to be motivated”
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
This one quote sums up his approach perfectly: “I don’t motivate people, I inspire people to be motivated”
God damn, I had to participate in a corporate video recently, where I answered questions like "What does innovation mean to you?" I still couldn't have come up with anything that vacuous.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@antipodean Jesus Christ, rugby media is so fucking servile and clueless!
This came up on my timeline a week or so ago. - what a load of simpering intellectual masturbation
"What’s striking about Razor’s coaching style is how thoughtfully holistic it is.
Scott Robertson has mastered both rugby tactics and behavioural science. The self-proclaimed visionary lends his creativity to game-breaking attacking schemes and stifling defence. His IQ is impressive and while clearly a cut above the rest, what separates him is his EQ".
The messages that are delivered are carefully crafted to be concise and clear. Robertson’s experience at coaching workshops worldwide – at Saracens, the Brisbane Broncos, the Melbourne Storm, West Ham, the San Antonio Spurs and the Dallas Cowboys to name a few – have all informed and developed this skill.
This one quote sums up his approach perfectly: “I don’t motivate people, I inspire people to be motivated”
If his press conferences are anything to go by.....
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Cracking start to the day
What weird filter did you use on this image? Turned your beer clear.
Actually - that’s fucking genius Mike. Perfect for wish you were here snaps for the missus.
@game_film said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Great for the comp. Nice to play Oz with the outcome seriously in the balance.
God no. Much preferred it when we were destroying teams.
What a disgrace. I am ashamed to be honest. Where the fuck is the passion?
SB is no captain and if they do not get rid of the backs coach or find a decent play maker then then we are fucked.
What was the game plan. We need a new 10 because for mine BB and D MAC haven't got a clue.. Razor must be on thin ice !!
I am so fucking angry I can,t even think strait. All I know is if we do not make some serious changes, more embarrassment will follow. What a total shit show !!
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Beauden is a poison every coach gets sucked into.
Forwards made to look like bunnies
Its really nothing personal, and it sounds like a vendetta from some of us against him.
He was one of my favourite players.
But the guy has to be put out of his misery.
140 caps.
It beggars belief.
Totally agree. Loved BB in his prime but he should now take the money up North. Lets be honest, since Carter left, we haven't had a consistently good 10.
Think they were smashed into submission. I remember seeing very good/legendary Boks like Etzebeth reduced to WTF moments when they lost 57-0. Nothing worked that day for the Boks and everything worked for NZ. A week (or two?) later they narrowly lost to NZ in SA.
The main issue with NZ is the game plan is just not conducive to consistent performance. The up/down performances and continual poor performances in second halves leave major questions for Robertson.
The kicking game worked in the first half, but it stopped working in the second half and just gave ball back to the Boks. When you can’t catch, can’t win lineouts and are giving away penalties and territory away at the scrum, any errors crank the pressure up.
Test matches are pressure cookers. It needs cool heads and leadership to slow things down and get some momentum. Too many AB leaders are looking for the high risk play, which when they come off look great. But when they don’t, it gives the opponent a lift and cranks that pressure up another notch.
What today showed is that the Bok management are able to lift their players performance at half-time. Robertson and his management might want to leave the players out on the pitch in future if their half-time impact is anything to go by.
Robertson is massively under pressure. Lose the Bledisloe and he won’t be around to play Mo’unga when he returns.
@stodders said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Think they were smashed into submission. I remember seeing very good/legendary Boks like Etzebeth reduced to WTF moments when they lost 57-0. Nothing worked that day for the Boks and everything worked for NZ. A week (or two?) later they narrowly lost to NZ in SA.
The main issue with NZ is the game plan is just not conducive to consistent performance. The up/down performances and continual poor performances in second halves leave major questions for Robertson.
The kicking game worked in the first half, but it stopped working in the second half and just gave ball back to the Boks. When you can’t catch, can’t win lineouts and are giving away penalties and territory away at the scrum, any errors crank the pressure up.
Test matches are pressure cookers. It needs cool heads and leadership to slow things down and get some momentum. Too many AB leaders are looking for the high risk play, which when they come off look great. But when they don’t, it gives the opponent a lift and cranks that pressure up another notch.
What today showed is that the Bok management are able to lift their players performance at half-time. Robertson and his management might want to leave the players out on the pitch in future if their half-time impact is anything to go by.
Robertson is massively under pressure. Lose the Bledisloe and he won’t be around to play Mo’unga when he returns.
Robertson should have got the gig in 2020 when he had his QB in Mo'unga.
Mo'unga leaving in 23 knowing Daddy was getting the keys to the castle was alarming in and of itself.
@stodders said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Robertson is massively under pressure. Lose the Bledisloe and he won’t be around to play Mo’unga when he returns.
He'll be there until the EOYT I suspect. He seems to be Robinson's pet project and if he goes, it will be when he steps down.
