@canefan said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@ACT-Crusader said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Bones said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@zinnyzinzin said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Landers92 ..so when do the players get told who is starting ? Has the whole team been named behind closed doors already ?

Players don't find out until same time as we do and spend the next 3 days just playing touch in random positions

I don’t believe anything about possible team lineup until one of the Ferner’s rocks up to a training session and then tells us who is running the cutter.

Lander has been very consistent naming teams of late

Just the last 2 or so seasons without fault lol. @act-crusader ive never just posted anything for shits and giggles. Only ever post when I know it’s reliable.

This season, the squad have been finding out Monday evening. Will likely change for different test weeks etc but that’s how it’s being handled so far while they are in NZ and 3 test weeks in a row.

This is correct. I believe it’s Monday night now - previously it was Tuesday morning so not a major difference.

A bit of whooshing going on here fellas….

Under Razor I can tell you that word was out by Tuesday mid-morning for home tests. Time enough to tell whanau to make travel plans etc.

@antipodean said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

For the loose forwards, ideally Jacobson is fit and has the game he did against the French, Lakai also plays a blinder and Savea plays the way he did in the second half against the Italians (inability to take a winger to ground notwithstanding). Segner on the bench.

Moorby stays in the 23 - starting if neither Fehi nor Clarke are 100% fit).

With Darry having a blinder the last two weeks, I'd pair him with Lord and keep Vaa'i on the bench.

If they stick with Taylor starting, then Aumua must surely get a chance.

Props pick themselves.

Proctor (despite regularly getting done on the outside) should start again. I think we'll just score more often than the Irish can.

Vaai at 6 maybe?

I wouldn't mind seeing Segner at 6 and Lakai on the bench for impact this weekend. Sititi have a weekend off.

@Bones said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@canefan I'd take any mix of our tight five over Ireland's "famed" forwards.

Our tight 5 are bloody good right now - they'll give Rassie's lot a really hard time. It's 6/7/8 that needs work.

@Victor-Meldrew said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Bones said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@canefan I'd take any mix of our tight five over Ireland's "famed" forwards.

Our tight 5 are bloody good right now - they'll give Rassie's lot a really hard time. It's 6/7/8 that needs work.

Hoping to see Darry come of age on the African tour.

@voodoo said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@ACT-Crusader said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Bones said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@zinnyzinzin said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Landers92 ..so when do the players get told who is starting ? Has the whole team been named behind closed doors already ?

Players don't find out until same time as we do and spend the next 3 days just playing touch in random positions

I don’t believe anything about possible team lineup until one of the Ferner’s rocks up to a training session and then tells us who is running the cutter.

What if a Ferner overhears the team while at breakfast?

And has he been seen since he spilled.the beans?

@Jet said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Victor-Meldrew said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Bones said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@canefan I'd take any mix of our tight five over Ireland's "famed" forwards.

Our tight 5 are bloody good right now - they'll give Rassie's lot a really hard time. It's 6/7/8 that needs work.

Hoping to see Darry come of age on the African tour.

There's a really good mix of experience and youth which means the likes of Darry and Holland can come of age in a stable environment.

@Victor-Meldrew Surely the plan is to give Parker a run?
Otherwise why was he there?
I see Ardie Parker and Lakai but not sure jersey numbers- possibly LJ if fit and he would be 7

@kidcalder maybe some guys arent responding to the different gameplan at training as well as they expected, hence why they havent had any time yet? Or maybe they had a plan, injuries excepted, on how they intended to use the squad, and some were likely to not get any minutes at all?

@Bones said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@zinnyzinzin said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Landers92 ..so when do the players get told who is starting ? Has the whole team been named behind closed doors already ?

Players don't find out until same time as we do and spend the next 3 days just playing touch in random positions

spilt my coffee

@kidcalder said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

I see Ardie Parker and Lakai but not sure jersey numbers-

Surely you go 6. Parker 7. Savea and 8. Lakai

@Jet said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Victor-Meldrew said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Bones said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@canefan I'd take any mix of our tight five over Ireland's "famed" forwards.

Our tight 5 are bloody good right now - they'll give Rassie's lot a really hard time. It's 6/7/8 that needs work.

Hoping to see Darry come of age on the African tour.

Just interested in what are the criteria to 'come of age'?

@brodean i feel out idea of a young player has changed a lot recently, i dont think in days gone past we'd talk about 25 year olds as needing to mature or "come of age", i think in the past we'd see guys in the mid 20's becoming regular starters as the norm

@Kiwiwomble said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@brodean i feel out idea of a young player has changed a lot recently, i dont think in days gone past we'd talk about 25 year olds as needing to mature or "come of age", i think in the past we'd see guys in the mid 20's becoming regular starters as the norm

Yeah I'm curious because I feel like Darry was close to two MOTM performances in his last two tests so just wondering what the critiera is now days.

Also wondering if Darry is capable of producing 3 games in a row of that quality. Will there be a dip in form this weekend if he's picked?

Just guessing. Is it possible Parker isn’t quite hitting that new 3 second metric yet?

@frugby said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

Just guessing. Is it possible Parker isn’t quite hitting that new 3 second metric yet?

I think that's what Rennie's comment from a couple of weeks ago was alluding to. If Parker still isn't meeting that target and it’s a standard Rennie expects from his players, then he needs to keep holding him accountable and leave him out of the selection.

@brodean said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

Also wondering if Darry is capable of producing 3 games in a row of that quality. Will there be a dip in form this weekend if he's picked?

Might also depend on the quality of the opposition forwards..

@brodean said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Jet said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Victor-Meldrew said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Bones said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@canefan I'd take any mix of our tight five over Ireland's "famed" forwards.

Our tight 5 are bloody good right now - they'll give Rassie's lot a really hard time. It's 6/7/8 that needs work.

Hoping to see Darry come of age on the African tour.

Just interested in what are the criteria to 'come of age'?

Throwing himself about away from home against the best pack in the world and finishing the tour feared as opposed to being just another lad filling the jersey.