@MiketheSnow said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Bones said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
Rattle JGP, get him off his game and they're a bit of a nothing side now.
Same could be said for Roigard
Nah.
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@pakman said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
Lineout formation will be interesting. Patty and Josh both typically jump at 4.
Funnily enough I've had some more oil that they won't both be jumping at 4 at the same time.
Which makes it slightly less interesting.
@pakman said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Bones By George that's insightful.
Do you really want to hurt me
@MiketheSnow said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Bones said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
Rattle JGP, get him off his game and they're a bit of a nothing side now.
Same could be said for Roigard
Roigard's yesterday.
Moorby's now the man.
@Bones said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
@pakman said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
Lineout formation will be interesting. Patty and Josh both typically jump at 4.
Funnily enough I've had some more oil that they won't both be jumping at 4 at the same time.
Which makes it slightly less interesting.
I got to keep reading the oil, it's so enlightening mate!!
Geez after watching the team naming press conference with Rennie and co, anyone else get the impression of a fair bit of openess etc from this group?
@Dan54 said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
Geez after watching the team naming press conference with Rennie and co, anyone else get the impression of a fair bit of openess etc from this group?
You mean they're not completely full of shit, out of their depth and bluffing everyone into thinking they know what they're doing?
@booboo said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
@ACT-Crusader said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
@The-Irishman said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
Easy win for the AB's.
We will play an aging rake, don’t have any world class locks, can’t even decide who our best 6, 7 or 8 are, have a rookie 10, a revolving door at centre and left wing. Add to that a new game plan that barely got us over the line against a France D side. Plus the daunting unbeaten record since forever at Eden Park. Take all that into account and add that Ireland have NZs greatest ever non-AB halfback.
Ireland by 10
Add in a fullback prone to choking
A right-wing who should be fullback
Severe drop off to back up 9
Too many Crusaders
...
Guys, we have Sam feckin Prendergast! An aging forward pack, (VDF hasn't played to his past standards for a long long time, Furlong and Ryan the same), and let's not forget fortress Eden Park. This is not the team to break that record. A lucky win against the Aussies (look what the French B team did to them) and a poor display against Japan. No, easy win for the AB's. 10-15 points or more.
@Mauss said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
The Vaa’i selection to me is mostly a response to the likely Irish game plan, which will be similar to their Dublin strategy against Scotland in the Six Nations: disrupt the breakdown, slow down opposition attack and frustrate opposition halfbacks.
Let's hope Nic Berry is better at policing the breakdown than Luke Pearce was that day.
@ShaquilleOatmeal said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Dan54 said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
Geez after watching the team naming press conference with Rennie and co, anyone else get the impression of a fair bit of openess etc from this group?
You mean they're not completely full of shit, out of their depth and bluffing everyone into thinking they know what they're doing?
Well that's one way of putting it, but I like to be polite.
@Mauss said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
The Vaa’i selection to me is mostly a response to the likely Irish game plan, which will be similar to their Dublin strategy against Scotland in the Six Nations: disrupt the breakdown, slow down opposition attack and frustrate opposition halfbacks.
The Scottish and AB attacks are currently very similar: gain momentum through quick ball, keep the ball alive and find the attacking space before opposition defence can realign.
The Irish, however, led by Beirne, completely shut down this quick ball against the Scots, limiting them to just 34% LQB (the ABs had 85% against the French, remember). They consistently put multiple defenders into the breakdown (winning 6 turnovers to zero from the Scots), denying the Scots quick ball and any attacking momentum.
Vaa’i is there to help with securing the breakdown, counter Beirne and to help the ABs go through the middle. Tuipulotu is the battering ram. Whereas the halfbacks were crucial against the French, this match will be decided by the back 5 and who can dominate the breakdown.
Whether it will work remains to be seen but it’s a very logical selection, once again. In terms of strategy and selection, Rennie is doing well right now.
But, if that is the case then:
Vaa'i is a good breakdown lock, but is he really the best 6 in the country at securing fast ruck ball?
Why drop Darry, who is our lock (maybe even player in any position) who hits the most rucks?
I tend to think the selections are more focused on disrupting their set-piece, as a combination of Darry+Vaa'i at lock and Parker at 6 would be better to secure our breakdown, whereas Tuipolotu and Newell on the bench suggests a scrum focus, and Vaa'i is by streets our best lineout option at 6.
Vaa'i having to get to breakdowns and tackling a bit wider than usual strikes me as one of the risks of the approach - especially given we've still picked a backline to spread the ball.
Our accuracy at the ruck is definitely going to be tested and it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out, can't wait.
@Dan54 said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
Geez after watching the team naming press conference with Rennie and co, anyone else get the impression of a fair bit of openess etc from this group?
I have loved the subtle measured digs at the TMO/refs from Rennie and Barnes. Just planting seeds. We have been sorely lacking in those respects since the 2017 Lions series. We were more interested in winning as the good guys, than just winning at all costs.
I like that he said Sititi has been given clear messaging as to what’s expected.
I like how he said Mo’unga won’t be going to S.A.
It’s refreshing.
