Match thread

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No Collins which is a positive, even if it means Nanai moving to fullback.

Poor selecting from MacDonald in the centres thus far. All three guys have an established body of work and Rangi should have a strong opinion on how the centre combination fits together.

Playing Faiane-Nonu round one, the switching it up to Nonu-Faiane round three is just sloppy selecting and an indication he has no fundamental game plan he is working off.

Duluth

I would prefer TJ and Nonu the other way around. It went ok in week one and TJ did not defend well at 13 last week

No specialist outside back reserve. I guess Black moves to fullback if anyone gets injured. That's surprising because they are meant to sub Rieko after 47mins.

KiwiMurph

@Duluth I wonder if the Blues have been given a bit of leeway on Rieko given that they are on tour + Clarke's injury + theyve got the Sunwolves next week.

ACT Crusader

@Duluth said in Jaguares vs Blues:

I would prefer TJ and Nonu the other way around. It went ok in week one and TJ did not defend well at 13 last week

No specialist outside back reserve. I guess Black moves to fullback if anyone gets injured. That's surprising because they are meant to sub Rieko after 47mins.

Black to fullback and Nanai back to his preferred wing position.

TJ can probably cover wing in an emergency also.

Nonu looked a little out at sea at 13 also. He could probably use TJ better when he’s at 12 than the other way round.

Duluth

@KiwiMurph said in Jaguares vs Blues:

@Duluth I wonder if the Blues have been given a bit of leeway on Rieko given that they are on tour + Clarke's injury + theyve got the Sunwolves next week.

I hope so

The bye after the Sunwolves helps that argument too

Duluth

@ACT-Crusader said in Jaguares vs Blues:

Nonu looked a little out at sea at 13 also. He could probably use TJ better when he’s at 12 than the other way round.

TJ has struggled with defence at this level and he gets beaten easily when there's a bit of room. I prefer him defending in narrower channels

Last week he made 3 tackles and missed 5

taniwharugby

@KiwiMurph I'd say the 180 mins in 3 rounds is a 'guide' so Rieko likely to come off after 55/60 mins.

Similarly with BBBR supposedly needing to come off before the half, I would say he'll do a full half, maybe even a few on the other side.

190 mins aint gonna be a big deal (unless they are unlucky enough to get injured in the last couple of mins...)

antipodean

The Blues have made three of their four personnel changes in the backs, handing a first start to impressive rookie Tanielu Tele'a on the right wing, moving Melani Nanai back to fullback with Michael Collins dropping out of the 23 altogether and bringing back Ma'a Nonu to start at second five-eighths

Holy shit - it's almost as if the coaches read the Fern too. How long has it taken to have Collins dumped?

KiwiMurph

@antipodean They dropped Collins out of the 23 last week but Caleb Clarke got injured in the final training run so Collins ended up starting.

Wouldve preferred Tele'a to either bench again given his impact off it - or given a go in the midfield but probably the only option given the squad they have at the moment. So when Rieko goes to the bench , TJ goes to the wing and SBW 12? Telea has decent speed but probably not Super rugby wingers pace....Jaguares may look to expose/target this?

KiwiMurph

@Nogusta When Rieko goes off - Otere to 15, Plummer to 10, Nanai to wing is another option. SBW to replace Nonu i'd say.

Kirwan

@KiwiMurph said in Jaguares vs Blues:

@Nogusta When Rieko goes off - Otere to 15, Plummer to 10, Nanai to wing is another option. SBW to replace Nonu i'd say.

I’d rather SBW and Nonu keep swapping like that. You can’t play them together any more. Too slow.

Tim

I know he's coming back from injury, but Cowley-Tuioti needs a big game.

Duluth

Juan Cruz Mallia, Bautista Delguy, Matias Moroni, Matias Orlando, Ramiro Moyano, Joaquin Diaz Bonilla, Tomas Cubelli, Javier Ortega Desio, Marcos Kremer, Pablo Matera (c), Tomas Lavanini, Guido Petti, Santiago Medrano, Agustin Creevy, Mayco Vivas

Reserves: Julian Montoya, Juan Pablo Zeiss, Enrique Piertto, Matias Alemanni, Rodrigo Bruni, Martin Landajo, Santiago Gonzalez Iglesias, Joaquin Tuculet

Duluth

@Nogusta said in Jaguares vs Blues:

Wouldve preferred Tele'a to either bench again given his impact off it - or given a go in the midfield

I hope he starts at 13 vs the Sunwolves. If he goes well, it solves a few problems.

KiwiMurph

@Duluth duffie and trainor should be in the mix as back 3 options for that game too - meaning Tele'a may not have to play wing.

Duluth

@KiwiMurph

Exactly.. and we're better off finding out soon if he's ready to start in the midfield. No point waiting until the last round

Tim

Interesting comment from Parsons:

"The mindset for us is exactly that; it's all about us," veteran hooker James Parsons said. "We maybe looked at the Sharks too deeply and got away from our game. As [coach] Tana [Umaga] alluded to, it's on us to be confident and stick to our game plan."

That would explain (aside from inexperience) why the team looked nervous and failed to execute a gameplan in the 1st half.

African Monkey

Strange feeling going into this game. I'm still shocked with Michael Tamoaieta's passing tbh to the point where I don't really seem to care about tomorrow's result.

Duluth

Tidy start

3-0 Blues after a couple of mins

@Duluth great start from Black..on point

Great back from Nanai,but no attempt to look for support..it’s these little bits in his game that frustrate the living daylights out of me..on saying that he’s better option than Collins

Straight miss from Nonu.

Duluth

Huge tackle from Akira on his goal line

Who missed the tackle on the initial break? Nonu?

The Blues have held up the Jags on a few occasions and this joke of a ref keeps on calling it a tackle.

@akan004 totally agree,will be interesting to see what sort of consistency we get from this guy.

Poor box kick from Pulu..and wtf was Nanai thinking with an absolute nothing kick under advantage

Stargazer

Creevy off injured; big loss for the Jags.

Poor organisation on attack.this is where you need Akira at pace in channels I or 2..not Parsons..

Nepia

Why are the Blues playing Brumbieball?

Stargazer

Lavanini getting a card; no surprises there. He must be one of the most carded players in SR.

Crazy Horse

@Nepia Brumbieball without the maul.

Chris B.

@akan004 said in Jaguares vs Blues:

The Blues have held up the Jags on a few occasions and this joke of a ref keeps on calling it a tackle.

If the tackled player is held up and one of his team-mates joins in the tackle - then surely at that moment it becomes a maul and if the ref hasn't called for the tackler to release, then at that point it should be too late - the maul is formed.

The organisation from that defensive area was nothing short of a disgrace ,for Talea to end with a clearing kick looked like something I would do in my backyard just makes you shake your head..unfortunately all this from a dumb Papali’i late tackle on halfway..all this against a 14 man outfit ..!

KiwiMurph

Papalii discipline is becoming an issue. You can take the boy out of league...

Definitely not missing Collins. Nanai again outstanding.

Faiane making a better fist of 13 this week.

Rieko and Tuipulotu playing very well.

Enjoyable game.

Chris B.

The good - some of the short passing close to the ruck. The strike runners are looking dangerous.

The bad - too many loose carries, some aimless/poor kicking from hand, people being driven into touch - soft turnovers.

The worst - no sign yet of an effective lineout drive.

antipodean

@Chris-B said in Jaguares vs Blues:

@akan004 said in Jaguares vs Blues:

The Blues have held up the Jags on a few occasions and this joke of a ref keeps on calling it a tackle.

If the tackled player is held up and one of his team-mates joins in the tackle - then surely at that moment it becomes a maul and if the ref hasn't called for the tackler to release, then at that point it should be too late - the maul is formed.

Yes but affirmative action referee.

taniwharugby

comms saying Telea wasnt expecting the ball for the kick, he looked like he was expecting it, was just a poor kick.

antipodean

@KiwiMurph said in Jaguares vs Blues:

Papalii discipline is becoming an issue.

Every game he gives away dumb penalties. The coaches need to have a word with him.