Only watched the second half but has actually been pretty decent!
Who is the Reds skills coach? Kerevi should be one of the best centres in the game - explosive talent. But seen two examples in two minutes of crap decisions. Firstly, fends a guy off ... but then manages to get tackled 5 yards behind where he fended the guy .... then makes a line break and makes a terrible (low and forwards) pass.
Fuck Tupou is a unit!!!
Ref has different application to advantage to me. Knock on, ball goes wide, loads of open space ... surely advantage over?
Gotta wonder how long Tupou can be effective for at his current size. He's blowing pretty hard already and don't think he's been on that long?
Geez, that looked like a grounding. TMO was too quick to call it, IMO. Third try disallowed. A lot of 50-50 decisions are going the Reds' way in this game.
@Stargazer yeah. Although it didn't help that the ref didn't give a judgement in the first place. IF he'd said try .. then I don't think enough evidence to overturn it.
@Stargazer said in Reds vs Stormers:
@Bones He has a groin injury by the looks of it.
Yeah, although rushing through a kick and going all jerky at it isn't going to help...
@MajorRage said in Reds vs Stormers:
Ref has different application to advantage to me. Knock on, ball goes wide, loads of open space ... surely advantage over?
If it is in their 22 then they're tactically disadvantaged compared to the scrum where they'd probably clear.
@NTA said in Reds vs Stormers:
@MajorRage said in Reds vs Stormers:
Ref has different application to advantage to me. Knock on, ball goes wide, loads of open space ... surely advantage over?
If it is in their 22 then they're tactically disadvantaged compared to the scrum where they'd probably clear.
Rugby is about taking advantage. For a knock-on only if you can't adequately take advantage of broken play / unsettled defensives then you don't deserve referee protection of possession.
@Bones said in Reds vs Stormers:
Still think thats in the remit of what I'm saying.
The situation I was referring to the stormers broke out, then knocked on about the 22 ... Reds had quick ball off the ensuing turnover, spun it out to Kerevi who chose not to pass and took the tackle a few yards in front of the original knock on (but around 25 yards across field) and made the ball available.
After it was made available they fucked it up and he went back for the original knock on.
As soon as Kerevi had that ball it was advantage over for me.
@MajorRage unfortunately I didn't see it so I'm going to say you're completely wrong.
Really it's up to the ref and doesn't sound like a big deal at all though - ref deemed there was no advantage gained. Otherwise you then get the team who didn't knock on getting the advantage, which seems the opposite of the point of the advantage "law".
@Bones said in Reds vs Stormers:
@MajorRage unfortunately I didn't see it so I'm going to say you're completely wrong.
Fern logic 101. Well played.
@MajorRage said in Reds vs Stormers:
@NTA said in Reds vs Stormers:
@MajorRage said in Reds vs Stormers:
Ref has different application to advantage to me. Knock on, ball goes wide, loads of open space ... surely advantage over?
If it is in their 22 then they're tactically disadvantaged compared to the scrum where they'd probably clear.
Rugby is about taking advantage. For a knock-on only if you can't adequately take advantage of broken play / unsettled defensives then you don't deserve referee protection of possession.
Shame that's not what the rules say though.
Mere ability to gain an advantage is insufficient.
@Chester-Draws said in Reds vs Stormers:
@MajorRage said in Reds vs Stormers:
@NTA said in Reds vs Stormers:
@MajorRage said in Reds vs Stormers:
Ref has different application to advantage to me. Knock on, ball goes wide, loads of open space ... surely advantage over?
If it is in their 22 then they're tactically disadvantaged compared to the scrum where they'd probably clear.
Rugby is about taking advantage. For a knock-on only if you can't adequately take advantage of broken play / unsettled defensives then you don't deserve referee protection of possession.
Shame that's not what the rules say though.
Mere ability to gain an advantage is
Knock on, turnover, breakdown. Halfback to first five, as he passes it to a man in space ref calls advantage over.
See it every game.
