Match thread

Wally

@Stargazer

Same comment I made after last week’s game. Romano vastly better than Dunshea against the big SA boys.

Tim

Strange injured or out of favour?

Chris

@Tim Injured a foot infection

ACT Crusader

Strong argument that is our best backline.

Looking for better performances from our front row and loosies this week.

Crucial

@ACT-Crusader said in Bulls v Crusaders:

Strong argument that is our best backline.

Looking for better performances from our front row and loosies this week.

Probably only Whitelock and Franks away from best pack as well.

Stargazer

Bulls:
1-Lizo Gqoboka, 2-Schalk Brits, 3-Trevor Nyakane, 4-Jason Jenkins, 5-RG Snyman, 6-Marco van Staden, 7-Jannes Kirsten, 8-Duane Vermeulen, 9-Andre Warner, 10-Handre Pollard (c), 11-Rosko Specman, 12-Burger Odendaal, 13-Johnny Kotze, 14-Cornal Hendricks, 15-Warrick Gelant

Reserves:
16-Jaco Visagie, 17-Simphiwe Matanzima, 18-Wiehahn Herbst, 19-Thembelani Bholi, 20-Paul Schoeman, 21-Embrose Papier, 22-Manie Libbok, 23-Divan Rossouw

shark

Only concerns for me - and these are amplified against SA teams - are the green bench props and not having any genuinely tall timber by modern standards.

Our three locks are 1.99, 1.97 and 1.98m. Read is another option but the rest of our loosies aren't tall, Douglas is the next tallest at 1.9m.

Snyman is a whopper at 2.07m and Jenkins is 2.01m. Kirsten on the blindside is 1.97m. Vermeulen and Read match up at 1.93m. The Bulls don't have a lot of height on the bench but start with a signficant advantage there.

The height difference, recent scrummaging issues and less effective mauling of recent times are concerns. But we should still win even if we lack a little of the pill.

Chris B.

@ACT-Crusader said in Bulls v Crusaders:

Strong argument that is our best backline.

Looking for better performances from our front row and loosies this week.

I'd add Franks, Perry and Whitelock and say that is our best 23 - though there would be some quibbles in the outside backs.

Funnily enough - without Franks and Whitelock - it doesn't look as strong as this suggests - in part because of the weaknesses in the bench props. Wonder if that's why Romano is on the bench - add a bit of scrum starch.

Nepia

@shark Have no fear, 1.9m locks are the standard these days.

ACT Crusader

@Chris-B said in Bulls v Crusaders:

@ACT-Crusader said in Bulls v Crusaders:

Strong argument that is our best backline.

Looking for better performances from our front row and loosies this week.

I'd add Franks, Perry and Whitelock and say that is our best 23 - though there would be some quibbles in the outside backs.

Funnily enough - without Franks and Whitelock - it doesn't look as strong as this suggests - in part because of the weaknesses in the bench props. Wonder if that's why Romano is on the bench - add a bit of scrum starch.

Yeah we need Romero when there is a big drop off in our front row come the second half.

I also think any two of Jordan, Ennor and Reece at this point would still make it the ‘top 23’

Chris B.

@ACT-Crusader Yes - any one of those three is unlucky.

Tough job for Mataele to reclaim his place in the pecking order next year - and for Punavai and Faingaanuku to get much of a look in.

shark

@Nepia said in Bulls v Crusaders:

@shark Have no fear, 1.9m locks are the standard these days.

There is definitely a general shrinking in NZ thats for sure. Between utility forwards starting at lock, and then comparitive midgets like specialist lock James Blackwell at 1.9m, it's starting to look like club footy at SR level.

How many 2m+ locks are there in NZ SR squads this year? Off hand I can think of Josh Dickson, Paripari Parkinson, Whitelock, Retallick and Tuipulotu.....

Duluth

@shark

Tuipulotu is just under

Scrafton is 2m

shark

@Duluth said in Bulls v Crusaders:

@shark

Tuipulotu is just under

Scrafton is 2m

Cheers.

I see Michael Allardice is just on 2m, so the Chiefs have two. Do the Canes have anyone on or over 2m??

Stargazer

@shark Geoff Cridge is 2.00m

shark

@Stargazer Bloody hell, I didn't even know he was in the squad.

Tim

Goodhue is 1.99, and the yet to be sighted Jacob Pierce is 2.01.

taniwharugby

@Tim Robinson is 1.98m, but played 6 this season, but has played majority of his M10 cup rugby at lock.

Plenty of dudes just under 2m.

Chris

@ACT-Crusader Not only that worry in the drop off of our props abilities in the 23 the Fuckwits controlling this game worry me.