@canefan said in Hurricanes vs Jaguares:

@taniwharugby said in Hurricanes vs Jaguares:

amateur hour out there...canes not looking like contenders presently.

We have flattered to deceive all season

There's only been one rather vocal over-confident Canes fan on here this year. The rest of us can see we are not gelling like we have in previous years, despite our remarkably good win/loss ratio. We've been lucky to scrape by a number of times. Credit to the Jags they were miles ahead of us tonight.

@SammyC said in Hurricanes vs Jaguares:

That was entertaining:)

Without reading the thread I’m guessing the ref is at fault according to everyone on here

He did not help but the Hurricanes were so far removed skill wise from what you expect to see from fulltime professional players there would be a good chance of a prosecution under the Trades Description Act succeeding if they advertised that as a professional rugby match.

So in the last two seasons, the Jaguares have beaten the Blues, Chiefs and Hurricanes in NZ. Who would have thought that possible when they first entered the competition?

@No-Quarter yep well said mate

@Stargazer great to see they will be a tough opposition come finals

@No-Quarter said in Hurricanes vs Jaguares:

@canefan said in Hurricanes vs Jaguares:

@taniwharugby said in Hurricanes vs Jaguares:

amateur hour out there...canes not looking like contenders presently.

We have flattered to deceive all season

There's only been one rather vocal over-confident Canes fan on here this year. The rest of us can see we are not gelling like we have in previous years, despite our remarkably good win/loss ratio. We've been lucky to scrape by a number of times. Credit to the Jags they were miles ahead of us tonight.

Same as last year. We get by with moments of brilliance but underneath it all our pack are journeymen at best (except for Ardie and Dane)

@canefan and Walker-Leawere should have played more,adds some grunt

I'm still dining out on our solitary championship

@Stargazer tbf with the roster they have had, they should be turning us over more.

BUt as you say, hopefully they realise thier potential and kick on to win the SA pool

Geez, that was painful to watch. And I'm not even a 'Canes supporter

Aumua is the classic example of the kid who was bigger and stronger than everyone growing up so neglected working on basic skills and fitness.

@Duluth said in Hurricanes vs Jaguares:

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Those Jordie Barrett fans still pumping for him to cover 10 in the ABs?

When SBW did that in goal ball kill he at least had an excuse that his league playing instinct took over. Despite that he was pilloried for it. JB has no such excuse except being a dumb ass.
As the ref said 'you took the risk'. He would have been far better making a legal attempt and hoping the Jags player didn't make it.

Congratulations to the Jaguares, clever tactics to target the Hurricanes where they are weakest: up front.

Jordie Barrett and TJP flapped around under pressure in this game when cool, calm heads were needed. Vaea Fifita is a bigger cause for concern IMHO. When the going gets tough, he gets lazy.

@jegga said in Hurricanes vs Jaguares:

@Duluth said in Hurricanes vs Jaguares:

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The Canes looked pretty good in the first 60 seconds.

I do enjoy watching the Jaguares backs when they are in full flight

@SammyC said in Hurricanes vs Jaguares:

Aumua is the classic example of the kid who was bigger and stronger than everyone growing up so neglected working on basic skills and fitness.

A bit like Akira??? :smirking_face:

@SammyC doesn't help when he is throwing at midgets.

@Chris said in Hurricanes vs Jaguares:

Geez I hope Ben Smith is fit for the WC after Jordies mare tonight would worry me in a tight contest

It’s arguable that Barrett is the best fullback in the ABs setup. His first name isn’t Jordie however.

Ben Smith is our best right wing

@ACT-Crusader said in Hurricanes vs Jaguares:

It’s arguable that Barrett is the best fullback in the ABs setup. His first name isn’t Jordie however.

Ben Smith is our best right wing

Best 14 & 15

The coaches seems to like having a fullback-ish winger. Jordies shocker really helps a winger like Bridge

Only saw the last 20 and it was ugly. We really don't have much of a team this year and you only have to remove BB or Savea and it all goes to poo.

@Duluth said in Hurricanes vs Jaguares:

@ACT-Crusader said in Hurricanes vs Jaguares:

It’s arguable that Barrett is the best fullback in the ABs setup. His first name isn’t Jordie however.

Ben Smith is our best right wing

Best 14 & 15

The coaches seems to like having a fullback-ish winger. Jordies shocker really helps a winger like Bridge

Bridge could surprise and be our 2019 Skudder

@Canes4life said in Hurricanes vs Jaguares:

@SammyC doesn't help when he is throwing at midgets.

Yeah what the fuck Canes ?

Even Paul Tito would laugh at how short the guys they have there now are.....

@Duluth said in Hurricanes vs Jaguares:

@ACT-Crusader said in Hurricanes vs Jaguares:

It’s arguable that Barrett is the best fullback in the ABs setup. His first name isn’t Jordie however.

Ben Smith is our best right wing

Best 14 & 15

The coaches seems to like having a fullback-ish winger. Jordies shocker really helps a winger like Bridge

Following Graham Henry's breakdown by positions (I think he is right) there's only room for four back three players in the World Cup squad. Fitness permitting, two of them will be Ben Smith and Rieko Ioane. I think they've then got to add another fullback and another wing (probably someone who can play on the right).

Jordie should be in the box seat as the fullback, but they should be keeping an eye on David Havili who is playing very well. Just maybe Nanai.

In the conversation for the wing spot - primarily Naholo vs Bridge, I think - but, they'd probably also have kept an eye on some or all of Reece, Jordan, Ennor, Goosen and maybe Lam.

Having picked the four, the question is then whether Smith plays fullback or right wing.

@ACT-Crusader said in Hurricanes vs Jaguares:

@Chris said in Hurricanes vs Jaguares:

Geez I hope Ben Smith is fit for the WC after Jordies mare tonight would worry me in a tight contest

It’s arguable that Barrett is the best fullback in the ABs setup. His first name isn’t Jordie however.

Ben Smith is our best right wing

Scott is probably a better FB than Jordie

@Gunner said in Hurricanes vs Jaguares:

I know it’s the rules...but...
I don’t get why you can knock it back in the general field of play but as soon as you are in goal it’s suddenly illegal?

I know @Nepia and @Kirwan has replied but just to add a wee bit more explanation you can knock the ball back (or down ) anywhere, including in goal. You just can't deliberately throw or knock the ball dead or into touch with your hands.