Match thread

Gunner

The shit the Bulls get away with at the ruck....

Poor option taking the droppie from so far out, we’re under advantage they should have had a crack at a try. This is no easy kick.

Chris

So that’s a high tackle Fraser you idiot and the one on Mounga wasn’t last week clown

Bulls so offside throughout that

Tim

@Jailbreak7 Did a big clean out and followed up with a strong carry.

KiwiMurph

Lol neither team deserved to win.

African Monkey

Aaaaannnnd he misses.

Donsteppa

Thought the lineout was a safer option, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.

antipodean

@Machpants said in Blues v Bulls:

Bulls so offside throughout that

The entire game. How did the referee and his ARs not notice? That sort of disgraceful incompetence ruins games.

Tim

Inability to exit 22 cost them again. Really poor ending.

taniwharugby

surely more draws this year than any before?

Canes4life

Season over for the Blues you would have to think, I can't see them beating the Canes in Wellington.

Hooroo

Good enough to be the fourth best nz team after this weekend. Man the Chiefs and Blues are fucking shit

Canes4life

Worry for NZ Rugby really, the Highlanders will be in that bracket aswell next year with the players they are losing.

Jailbreak7

@taniwharugby Many more draws.
That was a bloody awful last five mins from the Blues. They really need to work on how they start and how they finish games.

@Donsteppa said in Blues v Bulls:

Thought the lineout was a safer option, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.

If they went for a line-out it would have been non straight, if they went for a scrum they would have conceded a penalty and if they tapped it, it would have been a knock on. This is the Blues. That's what they do.

Hmmm. In many ways the Blues are better this year. But still not good enough. Same mistakes.

KiwiMurph

@Jailbreak7 said in Blues v Bulls:

@taniwharugby Many more draws.
That was a bloody awful last five mins from the Blues. They really need to work on how they start and how they finish games.

They could also work on the middle of games.

Get those three things right and they are in business!

African Monkey

Ummm next year is our year?

Tim

@African-Monkey Number one factor will be who the halfback is ... so probably no.

pukunui

Why the fuck was Plummer kicking for the win? If there is one thing Black has on Plummer it is goal kicking. Dumb.

Gunner

The decision to attempt a dropped goal while under penalty advantage from a; so far out & b; when the penalty location was just as far out was a dumb one and summed the Blues game up.... They just don’t know how to manage a game of footy.

You are under advantage, have a fucking crack lads, at worst you’ll be back for the same penalty, at best you score a try and win the game.

Duh!

taniwharugby

@Tim such a shame Nock got injured when he did, he was (finally) putting together some longer minutes showing what he is capable of, not sure that will be enough to get something next year though.

Jailbreak7

Maybe they should think about converting Ruru to a loose forward. Abrasive in contact.J But not quite there as a viable scrum-half option.

@kev Game management and option taking is a massive issue along with the level of intelligence of the leaders that are on the paddock..
Jonathan Ruru sums the Blues up, capable of 1 or 2 really good things but has so many flaws in the rest of his game..
His service looks pressured most of the time..throw in a real lack of knowing where defenders are...
A draw was probably a fair result..
What worries me now, we are locked in with many of these players in pivotal positions ..and many of the half decent players all locked away by other franchises...
I would be all over Hayden Parker doing my best to get him back to NZ..for all Plummers talent ,hes had 2 opportunities to win games with clutch kicks and has come up short..
Harsh but true..!
Can’t see us winning our last 2 games..definite improvement in some aspects except in the areas that matter most..doing the little things right which takes care of the scoreboard..

@taniwharugby I thought Nock was the only half back this year to demonstrate the skills the Blues are looking for. Sure that he will pick up a contract for next year.

Canes4life

Bring back Rupeni!

ACT Crusader

Ruru seems to have caught Pulu-itis with an increase in the number of poor decisions. He started off the season really well but has fallen away with some erratic play of late.

Game management and just keeping their shape seems to be a real issue.

Nonu for all his experience and quality, it doesn’t seem that he is vocal or asserts himself in the pressure situations to help the team to take control.

The Black/Plummer duo was interesting. Plummer does have a touch of an Aaron Mauger type 2nd 5.

Jailbreak7

Thought Plummer was good, that last kick aside, he doesn't lack for confidence or heart when taking the ball to the line. He just needs a helping hand from his half-back! A.nd more protection from his forwards. A general awareness of where players are on the field from the Blues would also be good rather thn passes to Mr Sideline.

Crucial

@pukunui said in Blues v Bulls:

Why the fuck was Plummer kicking for the win? If there is one thing Black has on Plummer it is goal kicking. Dumb.

I actually feel for the kid. He was trying to step up and take responsibility rather than throw the onus back onto his forwards.
Leadership should have stepped in and taken that responsibility off him considering he was hacking the ball. When the ball takes those harsh late turns you know that the kicker isn't striking sweetly or following through properly.
As a former kicker himself Rangi should have known that and sent the message down.

taniwharugby

@kev problem is, such limited minutes to show his wares this season (when you consider his form prior to those 2 games) even if he has a blinder for Northland...guess this is the drawback of signing kids out of school rather than letting them develop and mature against the wiley veterans in club footy (who are no longer there either)

KiwiMurph

Hindsight is all well and good regarding Plummer being the one to take the shot but he'd been kicking all night and actually nailed the conversion from the same side of the field earlier.

Otere coming in cold to take the kick i'm not sure was the answer.

Jailbreak7

@Crucial Yep, agree totally. Plummer is young and green, but he has the vision and committment. Leadership was key in those last few minutes and was a contributing factor in having the win snatched from them. Patty T will hopefully learn a lot from that.
Just think the pack needs to play more collectively, and perhaps practice their wet-weather ball-handling skills.

African Monkey

@Crucial I had no problem with him going for points. Our season's virtually over anyway and the only way for him to get better in situations like these are by continuing to go for it. If you have a chance to win a game with a penalty kick ou always go for it imo.

Who's to say that we wouldn't have butchered the lineout anyway?

African Monkey

@KiwiMurph Yup, hindsight is a wonderful thing. He'd be a hero if he managed to nail the kick but such is life.

KiwiMurph

So what halfback have the Blues brought in as 3rd since Nock is out?

Might as well give him a run.

Tim

A team with fresher players on the field would probably be less likely to make as many handling errors, and could probably play to a pattern better.

My biggest criticism of MacDonald is his reluctance to use the bench, and more so his lack of squad management.