I call bullshit on the criticism of TJ in the 3 seconds after he was hit by a beaten defender's clothesline.
What's he supposed to do? Immediately jump up and start yelling "accident ref!"
Anyone who gets knocked down like that at full tilt can have a bit of time on the ground. He actually behaves exactly like someone who's been downed in the manner that's obvious to all.
Poor reffing by a very experienced ref. Nothing to do with TJs actions
Looking at that gif, here's a question.
Did Perenara knock the ball on after the clothes line? Hard to see but kind of looks like it's rolling forwards when Coles picks it up.
@nzzp said in Lions vs Canes:
@MajorRage I hadn't seen the tackle, so dragged it out. Link bel
@Jaguares4real it's a clear yellow all day, and getting towards a red. Lions player swung around ... I'm not a fan of players going down like a sniper hit them, but I think it's pretty ugly.
It’s almost like your legs being taken out from under you when someone tackles you high like that. TJ was running at a decent pace and you can tell by how his body falls that it was not only unexpected getting tackled high, but probably shocked his body as well.
I’ve been tackled high like and it took a few moments on the ground to gather myself.
Ref bottled it plain and simple.
@ACT-Crusader said in Lions vs Canes:
@nzzp said in Lions vs Canes:
@MajorRage I hadn't seen the tackle, so dragged it out. Link bel
@Jaguares4real it's a clear yellow all day, and getting towards a red. Lions player swung around ... I'm not a fan of players going down like a sniper hit them, but I think it's pretty ugly.
It’s almost like your legs being taken out from under you when someone tackles you high like that. TJ was running at a decent pace and you can tell by how his body falls that it was not only unexpected getting tackled high, but probably shocked his body as well.
I’ve been tackled high like and it took a few moments on the ground to gather myself.
Ref bottled it plain and simple.
That was a terrible tackle
@Paekakboyz said in Lions vs Canes:
@MajorRage agree 100%. Initial contact was on the chin then slipped down to upper chest as TJ flipped. Not the biggest impact and the flipping movement made it look pretty bad at full speed. Definitely a yellow imo based on other rulings this year... and that irksome thing called the rule book!!
Law ... @Damo
@nzzp said in Lions vs Canes:
@MajorRage I hadn't seen the tackle, so dragged it out. Link bel
@Jaguares4real it's a clear yellow all day, and getting towards a red. Lions player swung around ... I'm not a fan of players going down like a sniper hit them, but I think it's pretty ugly.
Sheesh.
Wasn't a yellow card ...
@nzzp said in Lions vs Canes:
@MajorRage I hadn't seen the tackle, so dragged it out. Link bel
@Jaguares4real it's a clear yellow all day, and getting towards a red. Lions player swung around ... I'm not a fan of players going down like a sniper hit them, but I think it's pretty ugly.
I'm astonished anyone would try to claim with a straight face that's a penalty at best.
@antipodean said in Lions vs Canes:
@nzzp said in Lions vs Canes:
@MajorRage I hadn't seen the tackle, so dragged it out. Link bel
@Jaguares4real it's a clear yellow all day, and getting towards a red. Lions player swung around ... I'm not a fan of players going down like a sniper hit them, but I think it's pretty ugly.
I'm astonished anyone would try to claim with a straight face that's a penalty at best.
I was trying to say the Lions player swung around the neck of TJ; for that not to be a yellow, it's got to be clearly and consistently below the shoulders. It's a pretty bad tackle, really don't know how it wasn't a yellow.
@nzzp said in Lions vs Canes:
@antipodean said in Lions vs Canes:
@nzzp said in Lions vs Canes:
@MajorRage I hadn't seen the tackle, so dragged it out. Link bel
@Jaguares4real it's a clear yellow all day, and getting towards a red. Lions player swung around ... I'm not a fan of players going down like a sniper hit them, but I think it's pretty ugly.
I'm astonished anyone would try to claim with a straight face that's a penalty at best.
I was trying to say the Lions player swung around the neck of TJ; for that not to be a yellow, it's got to be clearly and consistently below the shoulders. It's a pretty bad tackle, really don't know how it wasn't a yellow.
@nzzp said in Lions vs Canes:
@antipodean said in Lions vs Canes:
@nzzp said in Lions vs Canes:
@MajorRage I hadn't seen the tackle, so dragged it out. Link bel
@Jaguares4real it's a clear yellow all day, and getting towards a red. Lions player swung around ... I'm not a fan of players going down like a sniper hit them, but I think it's pretty ugly.
I'm astonished anyone would try to claim with a straight face that's a penalty at best.
I was trying to say the Lions player swung around the neck of TJ; for that not to be a yellow, it's got to be clearly and consistently below the shoulders. It's a pretty bad tackle, really don't know how it wasn't a yellow.
It wasn’t a yellow because Peyper got tangled up in his thought process. When the tackle was mentioned he was busy deciding no penalty try as the try had been scored anyway.
Completely missed the point that he should have gone back and punished the high shot as he would have in a non scoring movement.
Did the TMO say anything?
@MajorRage said in Lions vs Canes:
@Crucial I didn’t see it but posters above stated TMO told Peyper penalty only no card.
Hence Peyper didn’t review it. I’m sure he would have carded if he did tho. By protocol, Peyper didn’t actually mess up and kept the game going. So in my view, he’s cleared of fault.
Let me think........TMO wasn’t a Staffa by any chance?
@Crucial said in Lions vs Canes:
@MajorRage said in Lions vs Canes:
@Crucial I didn’t see it but posters above stated TMO told Peyper penalty only no card.
Hence Peyper didn’t review it. I’m sure he would have carded if he did tho. By protocol, Peyper didn’t actually mess up and kept the game going. So in my view, he’s cleared of fault.
Let me think........TMO wasn’t a Staffa by any chance?
@MajorRage said in Lions vs Canes:
@Crucial I didn’t see it but posters above stated TMO told Peyper penalty only no card.
Hence Peyper didn’t review it. I’m sure he would have carded if he did tho. By protocol, Peyper didn’t actually mess up and kept the game going. So in my view, he’s cleared of fault.
He did review it. He reckoned that it was only a penalty and since a try had been scored no punishment was warranted. Iirc the TMO simply grunted his approval. Sorry dodgy af.
not quite as bad as this one, which was a Red Card when they weren't as quick to hand out cards...when oyu are running and someone makes that contact with you, pretty tough to play act getting taken out as suggested above.
@taniwharugby said in Lions vs Canes:
not quite as bad as this one, which was a Red Card when they weren't as quick to hand out cards...when oyu are running and someone makes that contact with you, pretty tough to play act getting taken out as suggested above.
Hulk Hogan would be proud to call that his own
@taniwharugby said in Lions vs Canes:
not quite as bad as this one, which was a Red Card when they weren't as quick to hand out cards...when oyu are running and someone makes that contact with you, pretty tough to play act getting taken out as suggested above.
That is a shocker. How many weeks did he get for that?
@Rancid-Schnitzel 3 IIRC...with a support runner and Fritz the last line of defence, shoulda been a penalty try too...no, I havent let it go.
@taniwharugby said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel 3 IIRC...with a support runner and Fritz the last line of defence, shoulda been a penalty try too...no, I havent let it go.
Only 3 for that? FFS. That Saffa who told a mamma joke got 6. That was more damaging than getting your head taken off apparently. What a joke.
@Rancid-Schnitzel it was 2010...
@taniwharugby said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel it was 2010...
Hardly the dark ages. 3 weeks for that in 2010 is weak as piss.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@MajorRage said in Lions vs Canes:
@Crucial I didn’t see it but posters above stated TMO told Peyper penalty only no card.
Hence Peyper didn’t review it. I’m sure he would have carded if he did tho. By protocol, Peyper didn’t actually mess up and kept the game going. So in my view, he’s cleared of fault.
He did review it. He reckoned that it was only a penalty and since a try had been scored no punishment was warranted. Iirc the TMO simply grunted his approval. Sorry dodgy af.
That’s really disappointing for Peyper.
@booboo said in Lions vs Canes:
@nzzp said in Lions vs Canes:
@MajorRage I hadn't seen the tackle, so dragged it out. Link bel
@Jaguares4real it's a clear yellow all day, and getting towards a red. Lions player swung around ... I'm not a fan of players going down like a sniper hit them, but I think it's pretty ugly.
Sheesh.
Wasn't a yellow card ...
It's an orange card. On a good day it's a yellow and on a bad day it's a red. Are you telling me it wasn't a card at all?
This incident is a great example of where SANZAR (and WR) get it so wrong around transperancy.
Occasionally it filters through months down the track that a decision was incorrect (eg No-arms Farrell) but when they mouth off so much about protecting the head etc etc then make no comment on something like this we are left to wonder.
Often the only clue is the appointments the following week which is the default method for 'punishing' refs and TMOs
Edit: Have checked and Peyper has the weekend off but the TMO and ARs are both appointed.
@Damo said in Lions vs Canes:
@booboo said in Lions vs Canes:
@nzzp said in Lions vs Canes:
@MajorRage I hadn't seen the tackle, so dragged it out. Link bel
@Jaguares4real it's a clear yellow all day, and getting towards a red. Lions player swung around ... I'm not a fan of players going down like a sniper hit them, but I think it's pretty ugly.
Sheesh.
Wasn't a yellow card ...
It's an orange card. On a good day it's a yellow and on a bad day it's a red. Are you telling me it wasn't a card at all?
No.
Not a yellow card though. (IMO)
