@Jaguares4real they have lacked a bit of edge, but they haven't lacked toughness IMO. Infact that is exactly what has got them over the line in some of those tighter games this year.

I know many on here, including myself have bagged the likes of Prinsep and Blackwell but you can't fault their consistent effort on defense. They both have pretty big tickers, type of players you need in a side to give you that hardness.

Big ups to Peter Umaga Jensen who was very solid at centre - big, powerful and seemed to make all the right decisions both on defence and attack. Hopefully they keep him there through the playoffs because Jordie needs to be at Fullback.

@Rebound said in Lions vs Canes:

@Bones Yeah how is it not a card. Should in fact be red. Went high (neck), ended higher and has force. Thats what is the determining factors for red. All ticked in this instance

I didn't see a replay but on first viewing it looked about the same as Fifita's one last week.

@hydro11 alot worse as he actually connected with the head. I can't believe he wasn't carded, let alone red carded.

Good win. Coles and Ardie brilliant when they came on. Master stroke that.

Been a good little tour this one.

@Rancid-Schnitzel Will be a big confidence booster with a lot of wider squad members getting a few minutes.

Any word on BB’s injury?

@Unite said in Lions vs Canes:

Any word on BB’s injury?

Not injured, just sick.

@hydro11 said in Lions vs Canes:

@Unite said in Lions vs Canes:

Any word on BB’s injury?

Not injured, just sick.

Ok, Cheers.

Beaudy needs to play every remaining game for us, including next week. I feel he's had too much time off this year and it's probably prevented him from getting any real momentum in his game.

@Canes4life said in Lions vs Canes:

Beaudy needs to play every remaining game for us, including next week. I feel he's had too much time off this year and it's probably prevented him from getting any real momentum in his game.

On the other hand our backup (Marshall) needs game time. And the risk of injury in a sort of meaningless game

@Canes4life

Disagree. BB was shattered by the time of November tests last year. He played too much Rugby last year.

I am glad that the world's best player is having his schedule managed to give him the best possible chance to shine in the RWC knockouts.

@sparky said in Lions vs Canes:

I am glad that the world's best player is having his schedule managed to give him the best possible chance to shine in the RWC knockouts.

He's not having his schedule managed, he's just been injured for most of Super rugby.

@Nepia when was he injured?

@Canes4life said in Lions vs Canes:

@Nepia when was he injured?

Whoosh.

@sparky said in Lions vs Canes:

@Canes4life

Disagree. BB was shattered by the time of November tests last year. He played too much Rugby last year.

I am glad that the world's best player is having his schedule managed to give him the best possible chance to shine in the RWC knockouts.

Totally agree. He's been overused by the Canes for a few years now. Only when you see him live do you appreciate how much ground he covers in a game. His form may fluctuate but his effort and commitment can never be faulted. An extended period of rest, even if due to injury, is good for the ABs later on in the year.

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@sparky said in Lions vs Canes:

@Canes4life

Disagree. BB was shattered by the time of November tests last year. He played too much Rugby last year.

I am glad that the world's best player is having his schedule managed to give him the best possible chance to shine in the RWC knockouts.

Totally agree. He's been overused by the Canes for a few years now. Only when you see him live do you appreciate how much ground he covers in a game. His form may fluctuate but his effort and commitment can never be faulted. An extended period of rest, even if due to injury, is good for the ABs later on in the year.

Ok so to be fair, who's form and commitment to the ABs do you fault and why?

@Bones said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@sparky said in Lions vs Canes:

@Canes4life

Disagree. BB was shattered by the time of November tests last year. He played too much Rugby last year.

I am glad that the world's best player is having his schedule managed to give him the best possible chance to shine in the RWC knockouts.

Totally agree. He's been overused by the Canes for a few years now. Only when you see him live do you appreciate how much ground he covers in a game. His form may fluctuate but his effort and commitment can never be faulted. An extended period of rest, even if due to injury, is good for the ABs later on in the year.

Ok so to be fair, who's form and commitment to the ABs do you fault and why?

Extend middle finger.

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@Bones said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@sparky said in Lions vs Canes:

@Canes4life

Disagree. BB was shattered by the time of November tests last year. He played too much Rugby last year.

I am glad that the world's best player is having his schedule managed to give him the best possible chance to shine in the RWC knockouts.

Totally agree. He's been overused by the Canes for a few years now. Only when you see him live do you appreciate how much ground he covers in a game. His form may fluctuate but his effort and commitment can never be faulted. An extended period of rest, even if due to injury, is good for the ABs later on in the year.

Ok so to be fair, who's form and commitment to the ABs do you fault and why?

Extend middle finger.

Andrew Merhtens hasn't played for the ABs in years.

@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@Bones said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@sparky said in Lions vs Canes:

@Canes4life

Disagree. BB was shattered by the time of November tests last year. He played too much Rugby last year.

I am glad that the world's best player is having his schedule managed to give him the best possible chance to shine in the RWC knockouts.

Totally agree. He's been overused by the Canes for a few years now. Only when you see him live do you appreciate how much ground he covers in a game. His form may fluctuate but his effort and commitment can never be faulted. An extended period of rest, even if due to injury, is good for the ABs later on in the year.

Ok so to be fair, who's form and commitment to the ABs do you fault and why?

Extend middle finger.

Andrew Merhtens hasn't played for the ABs in years.

I was merely telling Bones the Troll to go f himself. To think I nearly gave myself to him.

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@Bones said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@sparky said in Lions vs Canes:

@Canes4life

Disagree. BB was shattered by the time of November tests last year. He played too much Rugby last year.

I am glad that the world's best player is having his schedule managed to give him the best possible chance to shine in the RWC knockouts.

Totally agree. He's been overused by the Canes for a few years now. Only when you see him live do you appreciate how much ground he covers in a game. His form may fluctuate but his effort and commitment can never be faulted. An extended period of rest, even if due to injury, is good for the ABs later on in the year.

Ok so to be fair, who's form and commitment to the ABs do you fault and why?

Extend middle finger.

Andrew Merhtens hasn't played for the ABs in years.

I was merely telling Bones the Troll to go f himself. To think I nearly gave myself to him.

You are so out of his league it's not even funny.

@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@Bones said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@sparky said in Lions vs Canes:

@Canes4life

Disagree. BB was shattered by the time of November tests last year. He played too much Rugby last year.

I am glad that the world's best player is having his schedule managed to give him the best possible chance to shine in the RWC knockouts.

Totally agree. He's been overused by the Canes for a few years now. Only when you see him live do you appreciate how much ground he covers in a game. His form may fluctuate but his effort and commitment can never be faulted. An extended period of rest, even if due to injury, is good for the ABs later on in the year.

Ok so to be fair, who's form and commitment to the ABs do you fault and why?

Extend middle finger.

Andrew Merhtens hasn't played for the ABs in years.

I was merely telling Bones the Troll to go f himself. To think I nearly gave myself to him.

You are so out of his league it's not even funny.

It's just that I've never had an Arab before.

@sparky said in Lions vs Canes:

@Canes4life

Disagree. BB was shattered by the time of November tests last year. He played too much Rugby last year.

I am glad that the world's best player is having his schedule managed to give him the best possible chance to shine in the RWC knockouts.

Tell me you didn’t type that with a straight face...

If he’s the world’s best player I’ll eat my potae

@ACT-Crusader as Jerry Collins once said - players are called players for a reason. Beaudy isn't being paid the big bucks to park his arse in Fiji for half a season.

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@Bones said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@sparky said in Lions vs Canes:

@Canes4life

Disagree. BB was shattered by the time of November tests last year. He played too much Rugby last year.

I am glad that the world's best player is having his schedule managed to give him the best possible chance to shine in the RWC knockouts.

Totally agree. He's been overused by the Canes for a few years now. Only when you see him live do you appreciate how much ground he covers in a game. His form may fluctuate but his effort and commitment can never be faulted. An extended period of rest, even if due to injury, is good for the ABs later on in the year.

Ok so to be fair, who's form and commitment to the ABs do you fault and why?

Extend middle finger.

Andrew Merhtens hasn't played for the ABs in years.

I was merely telling Bones the Troll to go f himself. To think I nearly gave myself to him.

Troll? I was quite interested to hear.

@Bones said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@Bones said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@sparky said in Lions vs Canes:

@Canes4life

Disagree. BB was shattered by the time of November tests last year. He played too much Rugby last year.

I am glad that the world's best player is having his schedule managed to give him the best possible chance to shine in the RWC knockouts.

Totally agree. He's been overused by the Canes for a few years now. Only when you see him live do you appreciate how much ground he covers in a game. His form may fluctuate but his effort and commitment can never be faulted. An extended period of rest, even if due to injury, is good for the ABs later on in the year.

Ok so to be fair, who's form and commitment to the ABs do you fault and why?

Extend middle finger.

Andrew Merhtens hasn't played for the ABs in years.

I was merely telling Bones the Troll to go f himself. To think I nearly gave myself to him.

Troll? I was quite interested to hear.

Dammit Bones it wasn't a dig against any other player. God I dodged a bullet.

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@Bones said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@Bones said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@sparky said in Lions vs Canes:

@Canes4life

Disagree. BB was shattered by the time of November tests last year. He played too much Rugby last year.

I am glad that the world's best player is having his schedule managed to give him the best possible chance to shine in the RWC knockouts.

Totally agree. He's been overused by the Canes for a few years now. Only when you see him live do you appreciate how much ground he covers in a game. His form may fluctuate but his effort and commitment can never be faulted. An extended period of rest, even if due to injury, is good for the ABs later on in the year.

Ok so to be fair, who's form and commitment to the ABs do you fault and why?

Extend middle finger.

Andrew Merhtens hasn't played for the ABs in years.

I was merely telling Bones the Troll to go f himself. To think I nearly gave myself to him.

Troll? I was quite interested to hear.

Dammit Bones it wasn't a dig against any other player. God I dodged a bullet.

Oh ok, I thought you were saying others don't have his commitment so I was interested to see who.

@Bones said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@Bones said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@Bones said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@sparky said in Lions vs Canes:

@Canes4life

Disagree. BB was shattered by the time of November tests last year. He played too much Rugby last year.

I am glad that the world's best player is having his schedule managed to give him the best possible chance to shine in the RWC knockouts.

Totally agree. He's been overused by the Canes for a few years now. Only when you see him live do you appreciate how much ground he covers in a game. His form may fluctuate but his effort and commitment can never be faulted. An extended period of rest, even if due to injury, is good for the ABs later on in the year.

Ok so to be fair, who's form and commitment to the ABs do you fault and why?

Extend middle finger.

Andrew Merhtens hasn't played for the ABs in years.

I was merely telling Bones the Troll to go f himself. To think I nearly gave myself to him.

Troll? I was quite interested to hear.

Dammit Bones it wasn't a dig against any other player. God I dodged a bullet.

Oh ok, I thought you were saying others don't have his commitment so I was interested to see who.

Vaea Fifita said he didn't like hitting rucks. That's not showing much commitment.

@Bones said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@Bones said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@Bones said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@sparky said in Lions vs Canes:

@Canes4life

Disagree. BB was shattered by the time of November tests last year. He played too much Rugby last year.

I am glad that the world's best player is having his schedule managed to give him the best possible chance to shine in the RWC knockouts.

Totally agree. He's been overused by the Canes for a few years now. Only when you see him live do you appreciate how much ground he covers in a game. His form may fluctuate but his effort and commitment can never be faulted. An extended period of rest, even if due to injury, is good for the ABs later on in the year.

Ok so to be fair, who's form and commitment to the ABs do you fault and why?

Extend middle finger.

Andrew Merhtens hasn't played for the ABs in years.

I was merely telling Bones the Troll to go f himself. To think I nearly gave myself to him.

Troll? I was quite interested to hear.

Dammit Bones it wasn't a dig against any other player. God I dodged a bullet.

Oh ok, I thought you were saying others don't have his commitment so I was interested to see who.

If we're talking about Super Rugby, which @Rancid-Schnitzel was, then there's a pretty long list of players that don't have Beauden's commitment.

@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:

@Bones said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@Bones said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@Bones said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@sparky said in Lions vs Canes:

@Canes4life

Disagree. BB was shattered by the time of November tests last year. He played too much Rugby last year.

I am glad that the world's best player is having his schedule managed to give him the best possible chance to shine in the RWC knockouts.

Totally agree. He's been overused by the Canes for a few years now. Only when you see him live do you appreciate how much ground he covers in a game. His form may fluctuate but his effort and commitment can never be faulted. An extended period of rest, even if due to injury, is good for the ABs later on in the year.

Ok so to be fair, who's form and commitment to the ABs do you fault and why?

Extend middle finger.

Andrew Merhtens hasn't played for the ABs in years.

I was merely telling Bones the Troll to go f himself. To think I nearly gave myself to him.

Troll? I was quite interested to hear.

Dammit Bones it wasn't a dig against any other player. God I dodged a bullet.

Oh ok, I thought you were saying others don't have his commitment so I was interested to see who.

Vaea Fifita said he didn't like hitting rucks. That's not showing much commitment.

to be fair, he said:
"I like six because I can use my athleticism to do what I can do on the outside, rather than just stay tight and do the hard work like running into a brick wall and getting your body tired. Then you can't do anything"

It's pointing out there's a tradeoff between the tight work, and getting wide. I'm pretty relaxed about his effort and commitment in the Black Jersey

@nzzp said in Lions vs Canes:

@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:

@Bones said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@Bones said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@Bones said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@sparky said in Lions vs Canes:

@Canes4life

Disagree. BB was shattered by the time of November tests last year. He played too much Rugby last year.

I am glad that the world's best player is having his schedule managed to give him the best possible chance to shine in the RWC knockouts.

Totally agree. He's been overused by the Canes for a few years now. Only when you see him live do you appreciate how much ground he covers in a game. His form may fluctuate but his effort and commitment can never be faulted. An extended period of rest, even if due to injury, is good for the ABs later on in the year.

Ok so to be fair, who's form and commitment to the ABs do you fault and why?

Extend middle finger.

Andrew Merhtens hasn't played for the ABs in years.

I was merely telling Bones the Troll to go f himself. To think I nearly gave myself to him.

Troll? I was quite interested to hear.

Dammit Bones it wasn't a dig against any other player. God I dodged a bullet.

Oh ok, I thought you were saying others don't have his commitment so I was interested to see who.

Vaea Fifita said he didn't like hitting rucks. That's not showing much commitment.

to be fair, he said:
"I like six because I can use my athleticism to do what I can do on the outside, rather than just stay tight and do the hard work like running into a brick wall and getting your body tired. Then you can't do anything"

It's pointing out there's a tradeoff between the tight work, and getting wide. I'm pretty relaxed about his effort and commitment in the Black Jersey

So is he

@ACT-Crusader BB won the World Rugby Player of the Year award in 2016 and 2017, only the second player to win the award in back-to-back years. He was nominated in 2018 too. Some of the skills below aren't bad:

@sparky 2016 - yes. There was no way he was even the best player in the ABs in 2017 let alone the world.

@Nepia It's hard to take the award seriously when they get it wrong half the time. Sometimes the actual best doesn't even get nominated, like Nonu in 2015.

@Dice said in Lions vs Canes:

@Nepia It's hard to take the award seriously when they get it wrong half the time. Sometimes the actual best doesn't even get nominated, like Nonu in 2015.

Or when Sergio Parisse gets nominated for 10 years straight.

@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.

@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:

@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.

Which year was that? There was also Kaino getting robbed in 2011.

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:

@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.

Which year was that? There was also Kaino getting robbed in 2011.

That's the exact one I'm talking about.

@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:

@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.

Which year was that? There was also Kaino getting robbed in 2011.

That's the exact one I'm talking about.

Ahh. Thought you meant the ABs had lost a game.

I recall McCaw losing out to that midget Welsh wing one year.

Anybody got the penalty count for the game?

SA has got such a massive problem with referee's at the moment. Two clearly dodgy incidents in this game:

1. Seconds got an AR gig. Wasn't he dropped as he was showing himself to be biased? You can't just say, oh he's not biased anymore, so he's back in. Should be permanently sacked.
   2.The high tackle pre coles try. No way in fuck that wasn't a card. The only discussion is which card should it be.

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:

@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:

@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.

Which year was that? There was also Kaino getting robbed in 2011.

That's the exact one I'm talking about.

Ahh. Thought you meant the ABs had lost a game.

I recall McCaw losing out to that midget Welsh wing one year.

At least McCaw got his own back in years to come, when he won it over Fourie Du Preez