My initial thoughts..
Congratulations to the Jaguaries..great for their fans and probably the comp

On the Chiefs..they will look back on this game as a missed opportunity, some of their best players decided to leave their hands at home, it was a little like watching the Blues in the 2nd half with all the handling errors..
To me that game was there for the taking ,but with a shoddy lineout means you hand the opposition more ball which then brings indiscipline..
Best of the Chiefs I thought were ALB,Alaimalo and Debreczini while he was on, says something when your best 3 are backs..
Thought the set piece scrum was superb but as mention the hookers could not hit the side of a barn from 5 metres today..

Even as a Blues supporter I do have respect for the Chiefs as despite all the injuries, they have kept themselves in the fight towards the finals..plenty of ticker in this team despite this mornings result..
Just a shame the early experiment of playing DMac at first five backfired ,I have since heard there was some All Black coaches influence in that selection which if I were a chiefs supporter that would piss me off no end.
Also a real shame Jack Debreczini was out for most of the season because we have seen what he bought to the 10 jersey once given an opportunity..
Gee if the Chiefs don’t re sign him , I personally would have him ahead of Otere Black every day of the week and twice on a Sunday ..
Hold you head up chiefs supporters..under the circumstances not a bad season.

Based on the pre-match talking up by that Jag fan, Chiefs musta played outta thier skins to be so close...

Seriously though, well done Jags, also kept my multi alive.

Bummer for the Brumbies having to get on that big bird to BA.

@taniwharugby said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

Based on the pre-match talking up by that Jag fan, Chiefs musta played outta thier skins to be so close...

Seriously though, well done Jags, also kept my multi alive.

Bummer for the Brumbies having to get on that big bird to BA.

Jaguares were okay in the game but did enough to win & deserved to win

Chiefs were nullified in the 2nd half minus a good 5 min spell near Jagaures goaline

This was why I was so confident they would win

Jaguares have 2nd best Points differential in the 2nd half in Super Rugby
Today they won 13-7 in 2nd half

Chiefs apart from their scrums and set piece attacks off them were really poor overall

In general play they struggled to challenge Jaguares D

I counted FOURTEEN handling errors from Chiefs

Most of them forced by line speed in defence Most unlike a NZ side

Still game was in doubt for a while

Chiefs best players were their Back 3 and Debrizieni

You can;t win knockout games like that

Finally Jaguares crowd was

Well, shit. Sounds like it's good for my Saturday demeanor that I didn't watch a minute of it.

Congrats Jags and fans, and best of luck for next weekend

@Steven-Harris agree with most of that.

But I didn’t think ALB was one of the Chiefs best. He was driven back in almost every carry. Didn’t hit the line at speed like he usually does. He was well contained which is a credit to the Jags defence.

There were chances to win for the Chiefs but I thought there was a drop in composure when the starting 9/10 combo were replaced.

Well done Jags. A close contest by two very evenly matched teams.

Good riddance Chiefs. The dross is quickly being weeded out in these quarter-finals, as it should be. Now i want the Sharks to win tonight and in BA so we hopefully get a chance to avenge that draw.

@shark cant see the Sharks winning tonight, nor
the Brumbies next week.

@taniwharugby i can see the Sharks winning tonight but i dont genuinely see them winning again in BA.

Jags were good. Good team. Should walk into the final. Fair enough, well done them

@ACT-Crusader fair enough..

@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

I counted FOURTEEN handling errors from Chiefs

Most of them forced by line speed in defence Most unlike a NZ side

I haven't seen the game, but I disagree with this. It is not unlike a NZ side to make mistakes when facing a strong rush defence. Line speed is the way to force NZ sides into mistakes and spoil their rhythm. The British Lions showed the way and as yet NZ sides have not consistently been able to overcome the rush defence (when done well).

That's why I am nervous about the World Cup.

@Crazy-Horse said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

I counted FOURTEEN handling errors from Chiefs

Most of them forced by line speed in defence Most unlike a NZ side

I haven't seen the game, but I disagree with this. It is not unlike a NZ side to make mistakes when facing a strong rush defence. Line speed is the way to force NZ sides into mistakes and spoil their rhythm. The British Lions showed the way and as yet NZ sides have not consistently been able to overcome the rush defence (when done well).

That's why I am nervous about the World Cup.

We're probably in teh wrong thread, but Lions test 1 showed how to overcome that - good inside balls, hard running and offloading all night. Ireladn last year was a bit of an aberration - if we get held to 9 points, it's going to be damn hard to win. Well done to them - but we looked well off our game that night.

Quality game bar the handling errors.

Hags woke up some time just after the break and decided to be the 2019 version rather than the 2018 version. Game over.

Great scrummaging from the chiefs after they realised they should all push at the same time

Hamazing hags scrape past a misfiring Chiefs at home. Hand them the trophy!

How funny were the scrums though, those hags really are tough. And everyone marvel at the hags hamazing kicking, just wow.

Also had to laugh at Weber's new found pass accuracy, after Sowakula knocked on one dribbling at his feet or Sam Cane's knee smashed the pass forward for the umpteenth time. Was extremely noticeable how TTT's passes were going directly to hand.

Debres... Debrez... Jack D is good eh, going to be handy next season.

@Bones said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

unny were the scrums though, those hags really are tough. And everyone marvel at the hags hamazing kicking, just wow.
Also had to laugh at Weber's new found pass accur

Why so salty!!!! :loudly_crying_face: :loudly_crying_face:

Not a beauty contest Just about winning ugly

Jaguares played their worst game since they lost to Highlanders 6 weeks ago and STILL WON......

I understand it's hard for you to comprehend a NZ team being outplayed & outfought physically and tactically by a bunch of Argentinians but you'll get there in the end

Poor BIG BAD Brodie Retallick face at the end of the game was like he'd gone 12 rounds with Mike Tyson

Might have to rename him BRICK HAND Brodie Retallick with the number of times he dropped the pill :face_screaming_in_fear: :face_screaming_in_fear: :face_screaming_in_fear:

Jaguares scrum has been crap all season Only reason why teams have got any losing BP out of them but Lineouts are were you really lose games

6 lost lineouts lost was embarrassing Petti was creating havoc

But hey you get to watch Jaguares host the Brumbies next Sunday morning NZ time :face_with_tears_of_joy: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

Enjoy

@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@Bones said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

unny were the scrums though, those hags really are tough. And everyone marvel at the hags hamazing kicking, just wow.
Also had to laugh at Weber's new found pass accur

Why so salty!!!! :loudly_crying_face: :loudly_crying_face:

Not a beauty contest Just about winning ugly

Jaguares played their worst game since they lost to Highlanders 6 weeks ago and STILL WON......

I understand it's hard for you to comprehend a NZ team being outplayed & outfought physically and tactically by a bunch of Argentinians but you'll get there in the end

Poor BIG BAD Brodie Retallick face at the end of the game was like he'd gone 12 rounds with Mike Tyson

Might have to rename him BRICK HAND Brodie Retallick with the number of times he dropped the pill :face_screaming_in_fear: :face_screaming_in_fear: :face_screaming_in_fear:

Jaguares scrum has been crap all season Only reason why teams have got any losing BP out of them but Lineouts are were you really lose games

6 lost lineouts lost was embarrassing Petti was creating havoc

But hey you get to watch Jaguares host the Brumbies next Sunday morning NZ time :face_with_tears_of_joy: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

Enjoy

I’ve watched every one of the Jags games this season (and last) and that is by far the best they have played. The fact is they didn’t bottle it under the pressure of finals footy and they were able to maintain the pressure on the Chiefs.

Most finals over the many years of Super rugby often come down to a few winning plays and last night was no different.

Enjoy the win fella.

P.S. These posts have a remarkable resemblance to a certain former Saffa poster that unfortunately (or fortunate for some) when it went to poo threw the toys out when he copped some of his own back (all in “good fun” of course) and then deserted the Fern....

Quick question - how was that first try not ruled a double movement?

@Jaguares4real Salty? Did you and c4l go to the same school? Pretty odd you think I'm upset....only thing that is slightly perturbing is I used to love following the hags, now we get one of their "supporters" on and it has kinda ruined it, at least the team seem humble and not braggadocious and deluded.

It was certainly an ugly win, at home and scraping past a team that supposedly shouldn't have even bothered turning up. Good luck beating the Brumbies....

@antipodean said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

Quick question - how was that first try not ruled a double movement?

Here comes the excuses.......

Waikato's finest Glen Jackson was hand delivered to Chiefs and conveyed to Buenos Aires

What more can a Chiefs fan ask for? :face_with_tears_of_joy: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@antipodean said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

Quick question - how was that first try not ruled a double movement?

Here comes the excuses.......

Waikato's finest Glen Jackson was hand delivered to Chiefs and conveyed to Buenos Aires

What more can a Chiefs fan ask for? :face_with_tears_of_joy: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

Yet again proving your class. He's not a Chiefs fan.

@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@antipodean said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

Quick question - how was that first try not ruled a double movement?

Here comes the excuses.......

Waikato's finest Glen Jackson was hand delivered to Chiefs and conveyed to Buenos Aires

What more can a Chiefs fan ask for? :face_with_tears_of_joy: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

Damn those Waratah fans and their excuses

@Jaguares4real you clearly are just trolling...you point out how poor the Chiefs were and how playing like they did they can never win, then how the Jags played thier worst game too, yet the Jags are in your eyes the form team in Super rugby.

One awesome team plays shit and narrowly beats a poor Chiefs team that played shit.

Change your bait.

Yeah it's getting tedious.

@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@antipodean said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

Quick question - how was that first try not ruled a double movement?

Here comes the excuses.......

Waikato's finest Glen Jackson was hand delivered to Chiefs and conveyed to Buenos Aires

What more can a Chiefs fan ask for? :face_with_tears_of_joy: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

“Waikato’s” finest? That’s a banning offence in itself...

@ACT-Crusader said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

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I disagree with your POV re level of Jaguares performance

They've played better vs Canes Sharks twice Waratahs Sunwolves

With ball in hand Jaguares were average

WITHOUT the ball Jaguares were phenomenal

Here I;d agree with & state that was their best performance of the season Chiefs only scored 1 try in the game and that was in dubious circumstances

This was well below their average of 4 tries per game (63 total)

Jaguares were belting dudes in defence They had an ability to step up their intensity to a level the Chiefs could not handle No shame in that for the Chiefs

I've got a thick skin I can take it as much as I can give it

But I'm on a Kiwi forum so when it comes to arrogance in rugby I'd though I go native: You know when in Rome.........

@Machpants said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

Yeah it's getting tedious.

@Bones said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@Jaguares4real Salty? Did you and c4l go to the same school? Pretty odd you think I'm upset....only thing that is slightly perturbing is I used to love following the hags, now we get one of their "supporters" on and it has kinda ruined it, at least the team seem humble and not braggadocious and deluded.

It was certainly an ugly win, at home and scraping past a team that supposedly shouldn't have even bothered turning up. Good luck beating the Brumbies....

I see you liked Jaguares when they were crap at winning games but were entertaining in throwing the ball around, offloading at will
& playing from anywhere

That team in 2016-17 were ducking shit & that was reflected in Los Pumas during that time

Jaguares are NOT the Sunwolves who are mere cannon fodder full of 2nd rate Kiwis AUS Saffa & PI players becoming "Japanese"

I sincerely apologise for Jaguares for being successful and celebrating it

I sincerely apologise for Jaguares honouring SANZAAR T & C;s & repatriating their players at great expense unlike a disgusting Barbarians side based in Singapore/Japan

I sincerely apologise for Jaguares providing best atmosphere of any Super Rugby ground

Shame you werent around supporting the Jags when they were struggling and have only jumped on here in the last month to peddle your wares as they were playing well...true fan here.

edit: ok so questioning him being a true fan was a bit off, more that we have had so many trolls pop in when thier team is doing well (or post AB losses) only for most to slither away when thier team loses...hopefully this cat aint one of them, as it is good for a variety of posters

@ACT-Crusader said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@antipodean said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

Quick question - how was that first try not ruled a double movement?

Here comes the excuses.......

Waikato's finest Glen Jackson was hand delivered to Chiefs and conveyed to Buenos Aires

What more can a Chiefs fan ask for? :face_with_tears_of_joy: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

Damn those Waratah fans and their excuses

God knows they need them

@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@Bones said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@Jaguares4real Salty? Did you and c4l go to the same school? Pretty odd you think I'm upset....only thing that is slightly perturbing is I used to love following the hags, now we get one of their "supporters" on and it has kinda ruined it, at least the team seem humble and not braggadocious and deluded.

It was certainly an ugly win, at home and scraping past a team that supposedly shouldn't have even bothered turning up. Good luck beating the Brumbies....

I see you liked Jaguares when they were crap at winning games but were entertaining in throwing the ball around, offloading at will
& playing from anywhere

That team in 2016-17 were ducking shit & that was reflected in Los Pumas during that time

Jaguares are NOT the Sunwolves who are mere cannon fodder full of 2nd rate Kiwis AUS Saffa & PI players becoming "Japanese"

I sincerely apologise for Jaguares for being successful and celebrating it

I sincerely apologise for Jaguares honouring SANZAAR T & C;s & repatriating their players at great expense unlike a disgusting Barbarians side based in Singapore/Japan

I sincerely apologise for Jaguares providing best atmosphere of any Super Rugby ground

Let’s not get carried away about some kind of revival. Those guys lost twice to Scotland only last year

@taniwharugby said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

Shame you werent around supporting the Jags when they were struggling and have only jumped on here in the last month to peddle your wares as they were playing well...true fan here.

Jeez there’s a bunch of blokes on here (mainly this thread and the highlanders one) who take themselves way too seriously.

The guys not a true fan, because he’s only shown up on a virtually unknown NZ sports forum in the last month, when he should have known about this place years ago? Give me a break

Likewise in the highlanders thread, an innocuous comment about the highlanders being journeymen (which they are largely) has posters telling c4l to be classy etc and leads to personal criticism of his personality and knowledge of rugby.

It’s a bunch of guys talking shit on the internet, the self appointed moral police should get a life. I love the provincial bias and rivalry, it’s fun.

Well done the Jags, great defense!

@SammyC pretty easy to find this place if you want to talk rugby...and he found it easily enough to come in and wind people up when he has been able.

No denying the Jags look the real deal this year, but his pumping puts many on here to shame, and we are arrogant kiwi cnuts, so he's doing pretty well there.

@taniwharugby said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@SammyC pretty easy to find this place if you want to talk rugby...

Oh fuck off, I know plenty of true fans who couldn’t care less about looking for an online forum like this.

Your insinuation that he’s not a real fan because he didn’t search for this place earlier is just wrong.

@SammyC said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@taniwharugby said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@SammyC pretty easy to find this place if you want to talk rugby...

Oh fuck off, I know plenty of true fans who couldn’t care less about looking for an online forum like this.

Your insinuation that he’s not a real fan because he didn’t search for this place earlier is just wrong.

True. Apparently it’s not cool to talk on the internet about sport to other blokes

@SammyC no you are missing the point, I'm not saying to be true fans you have to spend hours talking rugby online, but those who choose to do so, find ways to do so easily enough...he has come here clearly to wind people up, and only in the last month cos his 'team' is doing well.

@MN5 said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@SammyC said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@taniwharugby said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@SammyC pretty easy to find this place if you want to talk rugby...

Oh fuck off, I know plenty of true fans who couldn’t care less about looking for an online forum like this.

Your insinuation that he’s not a real fan because he didn’t search for this place earlier is just wrong.

True. Apparently it’s not cool to talk on the internet about sport to other blokes

Using TR’s logic, his 19,000 posts on here suggest he’s the worlds biggest and most knowledgeable rugby fan.

@SammyC now you can fuck off, pathetic statement, I have been posting since this sites inception, I am a rugby fan, end of.