@Bones said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@Jaguares4real Salty? Did you and c4l go to the same school? Pretty odd you think I'm upset....only thing that is slightly perturbing is I used to love following the hags, now we get one of their "supporters" on and it has kinda ruined it, at least the team seem humble and not braggadocious and deluded.

It was certainly an ugly win, at home and scraping past a team that supposedly shouldn't have even bothered turning up. Good luck beating the Brumbies....

I see you liked Jaguares when they were crap at winning games but were entertaining in throwing the ball around, offloading at will
& playing from anywhere

That team in 2016-17 were ducking shit & that was reflected in Los Pumas during that time

Jaguares are NOT the Sunwolves who are mere cannon fodder full of 2nd rate Kiwis AUS Saffa & PI players becoming "Japanese"

I sincerely apologise for Jaguares for being successful and celebrating it

I sincerely apologise for Jaguares honouring SANZAAR T & C;s & repatriating their players at great expense unlike a disgusting Barbarians side based in Singapore/Japan

I sincerely apologise for Jaguares providing best atmosphere of any Super Rugby ground

Shame you werent around supporting the Jags when they were struggling and have only jumped on here in the last month to peddle your wares as they were playing well...true fan here.

edit: ok so questioning him being a true fan was a bit off, more that we have had so many trolls pop in when thier team is doing well (or post AB losses) only for most to slither away when thier team loses...hopefully this cat aint one of them, as it is good for a variety of posters

@ACT-Crusader said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@antipodean said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

Quick question - how was that first try not ruled a double movement?

Here comes the excuses.......

Waikato's finest Glen Jackson was hand delivered to Chiefs and conveyed to Buenos Aires

What more can a Chiefs fan ask for? :face_with_tears_of_joy: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

Damn those Waratah fans and their excuses

God knows they need them

@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@Bones said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@Jaguares4real Salty? Did you and c4l go to the same school? Pretty odd you think I'm upset....only thing that is slightly perturbing is I used to love following the hags, now we get one of their "supporters" on and it has kinda ruined it, at least the team seem humble and not braggadocious and deluded.

It was certainly an ugly win, at home and scraping past a team that supposedly shouldn't have even bothered turning up. Good luck beating the Brumbies....

I see you liked Jaguares when they were crap at winning games but were entertaining in throwing the ball around, offloading at will
& playing from anywhere

That team in 2016-17 were ducking shit & that was reflected in Los Pumas during that time

Jaguares are NOT the Sunwolves who are mere cannon fodder full of 2nd rate Kiwis AUS Saffa & PI players becoming "Japanese"

I sincerely apologise for Jaguares for being successful and celebrating it

I sincerely apologise for Jaguares honouring SANZAAR T & C;s & repatriating their players at great expense unlike a disgusting Barbarians side based in Singapore/Japan

I sincerely apologise for Jaguares providing best atmosphere of any Super Rugby ground

Let’s not get carried away about some kind of revival. Those guys lost twice to Scotland only last year

@taniwharugby said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

Shame you werent around supporting the Jags when they were struggling and have only jumped on here in the last month to peddle your wares as they were playing well...true fan here.

Jeez there’s a bunch of blokes on here (mainly this thread and the highlanders one) who take themselves way too seriously.

The guys not a true fan, because he’s only shown up on a virtually unknown NZ sports forum in the last month, when he should have known about this place years ago? Give me a break

Likewise in the highlanders thread, an innocuous comment about the highlanders being journeymen (which they are largely) has posters telling c4l to be classy etc and leads to personal criticism of his personality and knowledge of rugby.

It’s a bunch of guys talking shit on the internet, the self appointed moral police should get a life. I love the provincial bias and rivalry, it’s fun.

Well done the Jags, great defense!

@SammyC pretty easy to find this place if you want to talk rugby...and he found it easily enough to come in and wind people up when he has been able.

No denying the Jags look the real deal this year, but his pumping puts many on here to shame, and we are arrogant kiwi cnuts, so he's doing pretty well there.

@taniwharugby said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@SammyC pretty easy to find this place if you want to talk rugby...

Oh fuck off, I know plenty of true fans who couldn’t care less about looking for an online forum like this.

Your insinuation that he’s not a real fan because he didn’t search for this place earlier is just wrong.

@SammyC said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@taniwharugby said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@SammyC pretty easy to find this place if you want to talk rugby...

Oh fuck off, I know plenty of true fans who couldn’t care less about looking for an online forum like this.

Your insinuation that he’s not a real fan because he didn’t search for this place earlier is just wrong.

True. Apparently it’s not cool to talk on the internet about sport to other blokes

@SammyC no you are missing the point, I'm not saying to be true fans you have to spend hours talking rugby online, but those who choose to do so, find ways to do so easily enough...he has come here clearly to wind people up, and only in the last month cos his 'team' is doing well.

@MN5 said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@SammyC said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@taniwharugby said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@SammyC pretty easy to find this place if you want to talk rugby...

Oh fuck off, I know plenty of true fans who couldn’t care less about looking for an online forum like this.

Your insinuation that he’s not a real fan because he didn’t search for this place earlier is just wrong.

True. Apparently it’s not cool to talk on the internet about sport to other blokes

Using TR’s logic, his 19,000 posts on here suggest he’s the worlds biggest and most knowledgeable rugby fan.

@SammyC now you can fuck off, pathetic statement, I have been posting since this sites inception, I am a rugby fan, end of.

@taniwharugby said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@SammyC now you can fuck off, pathetic statement, I have been posting since this sites inception, I am a rugby fan, end of.

Again, taking yourself far too seriously

It’s an Internet forum, stop with the butthurt and embrace the banter. I’ve enjoyed this thread and hope He sticks around, fans from other countries add a lot of colour to this place.

@SammyC I have never claimed to be the most knowledgable person, nor that you need to be, I mean look at your fanboi liking your posts, christ, I wouldnt even claim to know more than him, despite the fact he watches fuck all and posts on here still.

I like the banter, I just dont like trolls...

@SammyC said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

The guys not a true fan, because he’s only shown up on a virtually unknown NZ sports forum in the last month, when he should have known about this place years ago? Give me a break

Exactly. Unless you find this forum looking for answers after a disastrous World Cup exit you are no fan at all.

@SammyC please cease the lecturing about how we are supposed to think.

We can all play the fern differently.

There are many layers to these pub discussions and there's nothing wrong challenging shit talk.

There's also nothing more boring than having someone write nonsense, then hide behind mummy's "I was only joking, don't take yourself so seriously " apron strings.

The irony of you seriously telling people not to be so serious is obviously lost on you. Do we need to highlight the posts where you went all "serious "?

Let people post what they want

@taniwharugby said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@SammyC I have never claimed to be the most knowledgable person, nor that you need to be, I mean look at your fanboi liking your posts, christ, I wouldnt even claim to know more than him, despite the fact he watches fuck all and posts on here still.

I like the banter, I just dont like trolls...

I’m liking them cos they’re amusing to me that’s why.

You have to admit TR you do struggle a bit when the piss taking is directed back at you.

@MN5 right on as always bro...back at ya, you love being called out on your BS statements...

@Siam said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@SammyC please cease the lecturing about how we are supposed to think.

We can all play the fern differently.

There are many layers to these pub discussions and there's nothing wrong challenging shit talk.

There's also nothing more boring than having someone write nonsense, then hide behind mummy's "I was only joking, don't take yourself so seriously " apron strings.

The irony of you seriously telling people not to be so serious is obviously lost on you. Do we need to highlight the posts where you went all "serious "?

Let people post what they want

Point taken, and I do see the irony

I’d just prefer that posters like the one in question and c4l stick around, they add colour to the place. I’ve really enjoyed reading the exchanges.

@taniwharugby said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@MN5 right on as always bro...back at ya, you love being called out on your BS statements...

Well I am. This response proves it. Go and have a snickers.

@rotated said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@SammyC said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

The guys not a true fan, because he’s only shown up on a virtually unknown NZ sports forum in the last month, when he should have known about this place years ago? Give me a break

Exactly. Unless you find this forum looking for answers after a disastrous World Cup exit you are no fan at all.

Haha

Folks are getting triggered with chat from a confident Jagaures fan with a dose of banter/trolling :face_with_tears_of_joy: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

Can I also declare my UNDYING support and fandom of the Jaguares from their 1st match in SR vs Cheetahs in 2016

@MN5 god damn, you got me good as always

Sometimes the banter some try gets a bit boring...but we have lost some great contributers for various reasons on here, spamming, trolling, over modding...happens all the time

@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@rotated said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@SammyC said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

The guys not a true fan, because he’s only shown up on a virtually unknown NZ sports forum in the last month, when he should have known about this place years ago? Give me a break

Exactly. Unless you find this forum looking for answers after a disastrous World Cup exit you are no fan at all.

Haha

Folks are getting triggered with chat from a confident Jagaures fan with a dose of banter/trolling :face_with_tears_of_joy: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

Can I also declare my UNDYING support and fandom of the Jaguares from their 1st match in SR vs Cheetahs in 2016

Sure you can....once you stop sincerely apologising for events you have no input or contributions to

@Siam

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Sam Cane said:

"The team that defended the best tonight won, and that was Jaguares. I thought their defense was outstanding. We made more mistakes, and it was due to that pressure."

"They attacked the breakdown very well, we struggled to get any quick ball, and because of that their defense was set and they just kept coming at us."

"They thoroughly deserved the win, they came here to play. The style of rugby they played tonight I think it will bode very well for them, hopefully for the next 2 weeks."

:smiling_face_with_heart-eyes: :smiling_face_with_heart-eyes:

@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

Posted without Comment:

Sam Cane said:

"The team that defended the best tonight won, and that was Jaguares. I thought their defense was outstanding. We made more mistakes, and it was due to that pressure."

"They attacked the breakdown very well, we struggled to get any quick ball, and because of that their defense was set and they just kept coming at us."

"They thoroughly deserved the win, they came here to play. The style of rugby they played tonight I think it will bode very well for them, hopefully for the next 2 weeks."

:smiling_face_with_heart-eyes: :smiling_face_with_heart-eyes:

So brumbies next and the. Crusaders. Can you beat both of them with your test team?

@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

Posted without Comment:

Sam Cane said:

"The team that defended the best tonight won, and that was Jaguares. I thought their defense was outstanding. We made more mistakes, and it was due to that pressure."

"They attacked the breakdown very well, we struggled to get any quick ball, and because of that their defense was set and they just kept coming at us."

"They thoroughly deserved the win, they came here to play. The style of rugby they played tonight I think it will bode very well for them, hopefully for the next 2 weeks."

:smiling_face_with_heart-eyes: :smiling_face_with_heart-eyes:

People could learn something about humility and sportsmanship from young Sammie.

@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@Bones said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@Jaguares4real Salty? Did you and c4l go to the same school? Pretty odd you think I'm upset....only thing that is slightly perturbing is I used to love following the hags, now we get one of their "supporters" on and it has kinda ruined it, at least the team seem humble and not braggadocious and deluded.

It was certainly an ugly win, at home and scraping past a team that supposedly shouldn't have even bothered turning up. Good luck beating the Brumbies....

I see you liked Jaguares when they were crap at winning games but were entertaining in throwing the ball around, offloading at will
& playing from anywhere

Yes I did, what's the issue with that? Should we only like teams if they win? Proving your class again.

Jaguares are NOT the Sunwolves who are mere cannon fodder full of 2nd rate Kiwis AUS Saffa & PI players becoming "Japanese"

Genius, I'm sure so many thought they were the sunwolves, thanks for pointing that out. I'm sure the "Japanese" appreciate it.

I sincerely apologise for Jaguares for being successful and celebrating it

I sincerely apologise for Jaguares honouring SANZAAR T & C;s & repatriating their players at great expense unlike a disgusting Barbarians side based in Singapore/Japan

I sincerely apologise for Jaguares providing best atmosphere of any Super Rugby ground

What?

And @SammyC i highly doubt it's j4l's first time here...bit weird we're not allowed to respond to trolling though, what was the correct response sorry?

@Bones said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@Bones said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

And @SammyC i highly doubt it's j4l's first time here...bit weird we're not allowed to respond to trolling though, what was the correct response sorry?

Lol, I never said don’t respond to him, or at least I didn’t mean that. The entertaining part is the debate.

Just dont call him a retard, or suggest he’s not a real fan because he’d never heard of a kiwi sports forum until recently.

@SammyC said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@Bones said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@Bones said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

And @SammyC i highly doubt it's j4l's first time here...bit weird we're not allowed to respond to trolling though, what was the correct response sorry?

Lol, I never said don’t respond to him, or at least I didn’t mean that. The entertaining part is the debate.

Just dont call him a retard, or suggest he’s not a real fan because he’d never heard of a kiwi sports forum until recently.

Yep debate is entertaining, not dicks who troll with stuff like how they've "triggered" people, decide Chiefs fans are making excuses when fans of another team query something, decide what other people like and dislike and make grandiose or bullshit statements then go on about how they're joking or winding people up.

@taniwharugby said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

Shame you werent around supporting the Jags when they were struggling and have only jumped on here in the last month to peddle your wares as they were playing well...true fan here.

edit: ok so questioning him being a true fan was a bit off, more that we have had so many trolls pop in when thier team is doing well (or post AB losses) only for most to slither away when thier team loses...hopefully this cat aint one of them, as it is good for a variety of posters

@SammyC I did edit my post later re him being a real fan.

@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@ACT-Crusader said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

s

I disagree with your POV re level of Jaguares performance

They've played better vs Canes Sharks twice Waratahs Sunwolves

With ball in hand Jaguares were average

WITHOUT the ball Jaguares were phenomenal

Here I;d agree with & state that was their best performance of the season Chiefs only scored 1 try in the game and that was in dubious circumstances

This was well below their average of 4 tries per game (63 total)

Jaguares were belting dudes in defence They had an ability to step up their intensity to a level the Chiefs could not handle No shame in that for the Chiefs

I've got a thick skin I can take it as much as I can give it

But I'm on a Kiwi forum so when it comes to arrogance in rugby I'd though I go native: You know when in Rome.........

What an outstanding post, every word an insightful gem. . .

@Hooroo said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

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Sam Cane said:

"The team that defended the best tonight won, and that was Jaguares. I thought their defense was outstanding. We made more mistakes, and it was due to that pressure."

"They attacked the breakdown very well, we struggled to get any quick ball, and because of that their defense was set and they just kept coming at us."

"They thoroughly deserved the win, they came here to play. The style of rugby they played tonight I think it will bode very well for them, hopefully for the next 2 weeks."

:smiling_face_with_heart-eyes: :smiling_face_with_heart-eyes:

So brumbies next and the. Crusaders. Can you beat both of them with your test team?

I knew we would get this stage with the Phil Kearns narrative coming from a Kiwi poster

It's a sign of Jaguares success rattling some cages & potential of a Frankenstein monster emerging & becoming a potential powerhouse in Super Rugby

Real Reason why Kearns was such a was that Jaguares dusted up his beloved Waratahs team +

Jaguares in their last 24 regular season games have beaten

Sharks three times Bulls three times Stormers twice

Blues twice Hurricanes Chiefs

Brumbies twice Rebels Waratahs Reds Sunwolves

I mean that's only a 75% winning record

Only Hurricanes & Crusaders have won more than the 20 victories the Jaguares have collected in last 2 season (32 matches)

These are spectacular numbers

@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@Hooroo said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

Posted without Comment:

Sam Cane said:

"The team that defended the best tonight won, and that was Jaguares. I thought their defense was outstanding. We made more mistakes, and it was due to that pressure."

"They attacked the breakdown very well, we struggled to get any quick ball, and because of that their defense was set and they just kept coming at us."

"They thoroughly deserved the win, they came here to play. The style of rugby they played tonight I think it will bode very well for them, hopefully for the next 2 weeks."

:smiling_face_with_heart-eyes: :smiling_face_with_heart-eyes:

So brumbies next and the. Crusaders. Can you beat both of them with your test team?

I knew we would get this stage with the Phil Kearns narrative coming from a Kiwi poster

It's a sign of Jaguares success rattling some cages & potential of a Frankenstein monster emerging & becoming a potential powerhouse in Super Rugby

Real Reason why Kearns was such a was that Jaguares dusted up his beloved Waratahs team +

Jaguares in their last 24 regular season games have beaten

Sharks three times Bulls three times Stormers twice

Blues twice Hurricanes Chiefs

Brumbies twice Rebels Waratahs Reds Sunwolves

I mean that's only a 75% winning record

Only Hurricanes & Crusaders have won more than the 20 victories the Jaguares have collected in last 2 season (32 matches)

These are spectacular numbers

Dude. What are the eyes emoticon signifying? Over my head

@Jaguares4real

Crusaders have 16 All Blacks in matchday 23

Hurricanes have 13 ABs

Chiefs have 11 ABs

Bulls have 12 Springboks in their 23

Stormers have 12 Boks in their 23

Sharks have 14 Boks in their 23

Brumbies have 14 have Wallabies in their 23

Waratahs have 15 Wallabies in their 23

Rebels have 15 Wallabies in their 23

Kick ALL these team out of Super Rugby

Maybe you now when someone say

JaGuArEs ArE aN iTeRnAtIoNaL tEaM

They're talking out of their backside/misinformed

We have 11 ABs? Jesus

@booboo

Depends on the context

It can mean WOW that's impressive as I was implying

Something that is shocking in a good or bad way

Something that's literally caught my eye on a basic level etc.......

@mariner4life said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

We have 11 ABs? Jesus

Off the top of my head ...

Moli
Hames
Harris
Ta'avao
Laulala
Retallick
Cane
TTT
ALB
DMac
...

Yep, you need to fill me in.

@booboo said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

@mariner4life said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

We have 11 ABs? Jesus

Off the top of my head ...

Moli
Hames
Harris
Ta'avao
Laulala
Retallick
Cane
TTT
ALB
DMac
...

Yep, you need to fill me in.

Oh yeah.
Weber

@mariner4life said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

We have 11 ABs? Jesus

No BS

It's also an indicator that just using how many players have been capped internationally is a TERRIBLE metric to use to indicate quality of players

Especially with smaller nations like Argentina & Scotland who combined have 3 professional sides

Hence they'll have a higher % of players who've played for Scotland or Argentina as they have a smaller player pool to choose from

Finally Argentina have a 2nd team called Argentina XV

They played in a tournament in Uruguay this month - conceded 48 points in losing to Russia and got dusted up by Uruguay

These games were International test matches btw so players would've been capped

Finally bear in Mind Argentina were playing Int'l rugby regularly in the Rugby Championship FOUR years before they starting playing Super Rugby

Plus the game over there is entirely amateur - No Mitre 10, Currie Cup, Shute Shueld/NRC

Hence their U20 side Pumitas are a big development tool for ARG rugby and that's been going very well recently

Number of players have graduated from U20 to Jaguares in last 2 years
and this will increase over next 2 years

Plus there'll be a Pampas XV playing Currie Cup every year starting in July