Boks Sqaud to Tour NZ + ARG

Forwards (21):

Schalk Brits Marcell Coetzee Lood de Jager Thomas du Toit
Pieter-Steph du Toit Rynhardt Elstadt Eben Etzebeth Lizo Gqoboka Steven Kitshoff Vincent Koch Francois Louw Frans Malherbe Malcolm Marx Bongi Mbonambi Tendai Mtawarira Franco Mostert Trevor Nyakane Marvin Orie Kwagga Smith RG Snyman Duane Vermeulen

Backs (15)

Lukhanyo Am Damian de Allende Faf de Klerk Andre Esterhuizen
Warrick Gelant Elton Jantjies Herschel Jantjies Cheslin Kolbe Jesse Kriel Makazole Mapimpi Sbu Nkosi Willie le Roux Handré Pollard Cobus Reinach Frans Steyn

Players in bold flew out to NZ earlier in the week

Likely Matchday 23 for Boks vs NZ:

#1 Steven Kitshoff
#2 Malcolm Marx
#3 Frans Malherbe
#4 RG Snyman
#5 Franco Mostert
#6 Kwagga Smith
#7 Pieter-Steph du Toit / Rynhardt Elstadt
#8 Duane Vermeulen

#9 Faf de Klerk
#10 Handré Pollard
#11 Cheslin Kolbe
#12 Damian de Allende
#13 Lukhanyo Am
#14 Sbu Nkosi
#15 Willie le Roux

#16 Bongi Mbonambi
#17 Thomas du Toit
#18 Trevor Nyakane
#19 Eben Etzebeth
#20 Pieter-Steph du Toit / Rynhardt Elstadt,
#21 Herschel Jantjies
#22 Elton Jantjies
#23 Jesse Kriel,

@Jaguares4real captain on the bench?

@ACT-Crusader said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

@Jaguares4real captain on the bench?

Yes

Eben is only captain due to Kolisi injury He played last Saturday

Can't see him starting back to back Test Matches especially when Mostert & RG Synman have been in NZ for last 4 days with preliminary party

@Machpants said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

So are we targeting this one for an A team, or putting another B+ team out, with a team going to Bled? I'm sure the boks want to win this, but do the Abs care? I know they want to win, but I mean big picture care, when it's all about RWC and Bled

Given we have to play them in the first game and the winner of that will top the pool with the (on paper if everything goes according to rankings) the easier path to the final, I doubt they'd want the Boks beating us at home.

@antipodean said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

@Machpants said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

So are we targeting this one for an A team, or putting another B+ team out, with a team going to Bled? I'm sure the boks want to win this, but do the Abs care? I know they want to win, but I mean big picture care, when it's all about RWC and Bled

Given we have to play them in the first game and the winner of that will top the pool with the (on paper if everything goes according to rankings) the easier path to the final, I doubt they'd want the Boks beating us at home.

I also think the match in SA v Aus was over-rated. I don't think Aussie are that flash at the moment.

I think if we put out our B+/A- team we will have the boks covered.

@Hooroo said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

@antipodean said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

@Machpants said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

So are we targeting this one for an A team, or putting another B+ team out, with a team going to Bled? I'm sure the boks want to win this, but do the Abs care? I know they want to win, but I mean big picture care, when it's all about RWC and Bled

Given we have to play them in the first game and the winner of that will top the pool with the (on paper if everything goes according to rankings) the easier path to the final, I doubt they'd want the Boks beating us at home.

I also think the match in SA v Aus was over-rated. I don't think Aussie are that flash at the moment.

I think if we put out our B+/A- team we will have the boks covered.

The Boks fielded a B-team against the Aussies, sending several of their first-choice players to NZ early. So it's hard to say how strong they really are, just as it's hard to say how strong we really are.

@Stargazer said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

@Hooroo said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

@antipodean said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

@Machpants said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

So are we targeting this one for an A team, or putting another B+ team out, with a team going to Bled? I'm sure the boks want to win this, but do the Abs care? I know they want to win, but I mean big picture care, when it's all about RWC and Bled

Given we have to play them in the first game and the winner of that will top the pool with the (on paper if everything goes according to rankings) the easier path to the final, I doubt they'd want the Boks beating us at home.

I also think the match in SA v Aus was over-rated. I don't think Aussie are that flash at the moment.

I think if we put out our B+/A- team we will have the boks covered.

The Boks fielded a B-team against the Aussies, sending several of their first-choice players to NZ early. So it's hard to say how strong they really are, just as it's hard to say how strong we really are.

Fair point.

@Hooroo The Wallabies also never start well in a RC. Take out Thor's yellow and had the try that was butchered by DHP been scored, the result would have been a lot closer.

@pakman said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

When is the team named?

Asking for a friend.....

@Hooroo

I think if we put out our B+/A- team we will have the boks covered.

How much will they beat us by this time then, to count as "covered"?

Last year all the predictions were that we would smash them in the same fixture, and we've got worse since then.

@Chester-Draws said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

@Hooroo

I think if we put out our B+/A- team we will have the boks covered.

How much will they beat us by this time then, to count as "covered"?

Last year all the predictions were that we would smash them in the same fixture, and we've got worse since then.

But for this fixture we have the Crusaders who are so good, they beat the Pumas in the Super Rugby final.

@Chester-Draws said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

Last year all the predictions were that we would smash them in the same fixture, and we've got worse since then.

Last year we smashed them all over the paddock except on the scoreboard. Kind of like the return fixture - in both cases, the team that played better did enough to lose

No quick lineouts from backs would be a good start!

@nzzp said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

in both cases, the team that played better did enough to lose

Nice.

The whole new rugby theory of letting the other team have the ball is still a bit baffling to me, but does seem to work on occasion (or maybe just supporters of it talking it up). Dunno.

@Snowy Highlanders won a title with it. I think Jamie talked about it afterwards as a thing.

That might be about field position though

That's all I've got

@Chester-Draws said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

@Hooroo

I think if we put out our B+/A- team we will have the boks covered.

How much will they beat us by this time then, to count as "covered"?

Last year all the predictions were that we would smash them in the same fixture, and we've got worse since then.

I’m not talking retrospectively? I mean this weekend I think we have them covered.

@Hooroo

Sure. But you probably said that last year too. I was certainly very surprised to see us lose, and I don't recall anyone picking it on TSF.

Myself, I think we're not playing very well. I can't see us winning if we don't field close to our best team.

(Either that or they get some of that dry powder that apparently is around.)