@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:

TJP and Bridge didn't do themselves any favours. Everyone else didn't harm their chances, but it's not the type of fixture you can make good judgements of when players who stick to their patterns don't get the opportunity to do their jobs because the opposition are so bad.

Vai'i was pretty average I thought, he was the worst at stupid offloads and gave away a few stupid penalties. Busy, yes, but not accurate enough

I only just watched on demand…I was going to pick vai’i as one of my three players of the match, very busy and still young so that’s the first think I look for in a young guy, enthusiasm and effort, compared to bridge who I think did almost nothing wrong…but had no effect on a game at all…I’d prefer enthusiasm

@gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.

I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.

Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.

@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

@gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.

I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.

Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.

Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?

@mrdenmore said in All Blacks vs USA:

OK, can someone explain the hairstyle atrocity adopted by so many of the All Blacks - Mo’unga and Tupea and Havili among them? They’re all sporting this curly perm at the back of their heads. Like an ‘80s mullet but teased into tight curls. My avatar Earle Kirton is spinning in his grave.

How do you spin in your grave if you’re alive ?

@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:

@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

@gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.

I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.

Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.

Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?

In the 2nd half, and in the ABs half of the field. Also before Lord came on the field I think.

Vaa'i shows some nice touches as a passer.

@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:

@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

@gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.

I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.

Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.

Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?

In the 2nd half, and in the ABs half of the field. Also before Lord came on the field I think.

Vaa'i shows some nice touches as a passer.

Cheers, I wonder if they gave it to Sotutu by mistake?

He supposedly has three.

@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:

@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

@gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.

I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.

Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.

Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?

The first 20 or so he gave away a few, not on ESPN, but I'm pretty sure it was him

@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:

@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

@gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.

I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.

Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.

Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?

The first 20 or so he gave away a few, not on ESPN, but I'm pretty sure it was him

In the first 20 of the game???

I think we only conceded one penalty during that time (ginga holding on) as pretty much every time we touched it we scored.

@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:

Cheers, I wonder if they gave it to Sotutu by mistake?

He supposedly has three.

Sotutu definitely conceded at least 2 penalties, including a high tackle.

@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:

@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:

@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

@gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.

I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.

Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.

Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?

The first 20 or so he gave away a few, not on ESPN, but I'm pretty sure it was him

In the first 20 of the game???

I think we only conceded one penalty during that time (ginga holding on) as pretty much every time we touched it we scored.

Sorry I was meaning unneeded offloads, anyway far too long ago to remember! Games not good enough for me to watch again, I'll concede I could be talking utter bollocks, but that was my impression. Too many errors

@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:

Cheers, I wonder if they gave it to Sotutu by mistake?

He supposedly has three.

Sotutu definitely conceded at least 2 penalties, including a high tackle.

Yeah Sotutu got one at 22:30... not doing a Nisbo are you @Machpants ?

@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:

@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:

Cheers, I wonder if they gave it to Sotutu by mistake?

He supposedly has three.

Sotutu definitely conceded at least 2 penalties, including a high tackle.

Yeah Sotutu got one at 22:30... not doing a Nisbo are you @Machpants ?

Quite possibly!

@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:

@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

@gt12 said in All Blacks vs USA:

@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

@gt12 Vaa'i conceded one penalty when entering the ruck from the side.

I was hoping to see more ball carries from de Groot. Not much different to our other props in his ability.

Ennor never looks that threatening at centre.

Cheers - roughly what time in the game, I might rewatch and will try to catch that part?

The first 20 or so he gave away a few, not on ESPN, but I'm pretty sure it was him

In the first 20 of the game???

I think we only conceded one penalty during that time (ginga holding on) as pretty much every time we touched it we scored.

Sorry I was meaning unneeded offloads, anyway far too long ago to remember! Games not good enough for me to watch Sassoon, I'll concede I could be talking utter bollocks, but that was my impression. Too many errors

I think you're very harsh.

I can only see one error during the first 22 minutes, which is when he attempts a long pass which gets batted down and we score from anyway.

2:50 runs and takes the tackle
5:07 tries a long pass on their 5 metre line which is knocked down and De Groot picks it up to score
7:13 beautiful short ball to De Groot
11:23 runs and takes the tackle
11:52 passes behind the pod to McKenzie (we get penalty)
12:04 strong run and takes the tackle
15:50 wins lineout
19:20 nice short ball to QT
21:54: Runs and takes the tackle.

I did he whole first half for Vaa'i - I think he was worse during this quarter in comparison to the first 20:

23:55: Runs to settle things down and takes the tackle. Next phase we score
27:55 loses the ball in the tackle with the line in sight but the tackle was high and we get the penalty
32:09 competes at the line out and knocks it on
35:02 this is the first bad one - it's an offload that didn't need to be thrown and goes to hand but was totally un-needed
35:11 Runs and takes the tackle
37:40 takes the kickoff and tackle

An interesting feature that I don't think anyone has mentioned, is that when Mo'unga went off, DMac took over the goal-kicking.

Seems like Beaudy is giving that away.

Be interesting to see who kicks when Richie and Jordie are paired together.

@chris-b said in All Blacks vs USA:

An interesting feature that I don't think anyone has mentioned, is that when Mo'unga went off, DMac took over the goal-kicking.

Seems like Beaudy is giving that away.

Be interesting to see who kicks when Richie and Jordie are paired together.

It would be hard to ignore Jordie’s form, he’s been great this year. Maybe Mo’unga for the short kicks and Jordie for the longer range kicks..?

@canes4life Will definitely be Jordie for the really big ones.

It might actually be a bit of a pointer as to how they see contest for the 10 jersey.

It would be a little bit odd to have Richie do the kicking when he played 10, if Beaudy was No. 1 and Jordie was kicking in the big tests.

On the other hand, I think Richie has always been the No. 1 kicker when he's played to date.

@chris-b said in All Blacks vs USA:

@canes4life Will definitely be Jordie for the really big ones.

It might actually be a bit of a pointer as to how they see contest for the 10 jersey.

It would be a little bit odd to have Richie do the kicking when he played 10, if Beaudy was No. 1 and Jordie was kicking in the big tests.

On the other hand, I think Richie has always been the No. 1 kicker when he's played to date.

Normally they decide themselves, so they'll chat about it and go with it. It's not directed from coach or leadership