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Duluth

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Easy win for England

antipodean

Respective form points strongly to England.

Duluth

@Machpants said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

Easy win for England

Probably

I was considering adding different margins for this one. But I think it makes sense for all the knock outs to have 1-8 & 9+

Tab odds are:
Eng $1.40
Fiji $3

Betfair:
Eng $1.30
Fiji $3.25

NTA

Fiji slowly getting worse this RWC in terms of performance if not results. They were dire against Georgia (should have lost) and not much better against Portugal. England will towel them up.

Catogrande

@NTA Did you watch the Samoa game?

If they play like they did yesterday, Fiji would take a hiding. They have lost their collective structure since the Georgia game.

Bones

Oh great. I have to pretend to support England for another week.

MN5

This game is shaping up to be a cripple fight if their last games are anything to go by

Catogrande

@NTA said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

@Catogrande said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

@NTA Did you watch the Samoa game?

Haven't yet. Heard it was a stinker.

Haven’t. Won’t. My understanding is that we scored 2 good tries and we’re woeful for the remaining 76 minutes.

We started with a 10 at 12, a 12 at 13 and a 13 on the wing.

We ended with our starting 12 at 10, a15 on the wing and a 10 at 15.

We had one guy with some pace, though getting on a bit and didn’t pass to him.

nostrildamus

@Catogrande said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

We started with a 10 at 12, a 12 at 13 and a 13 on the wing.
We ended with our starting 12 at 10, a15 on the wing and a 10 at 15.
We had one guy with some pace, though getting on a bit and didn’t pass to him.

Playing people out of position, and not playing to your strengths? Was Borthwick taught coaching in NZ?

Catogrande

@nostrildamus

I found myself thinking earlier on this morning that even if the unthinkable happened and we won the thing would this make me accept what Borthwick has been doing and I honestly felt that no, it wouldn't. I was then wondering if you Kiwis felt the same re Foster?

@Catogrande said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

@nostrildamus

I found myself thinking earlier on this morning that even if the unthinkable happened and we won the thing would this make me accept what Borthwick has been doing and I honestly felt that no, it wouldn't. I was then wondering if you Kiwis felt the same re Foster?

For me, the abs aren't only about just winning the world cup. It's about every day excellence, and the fact foster has permanently fucked many records the abs cannot ever get back over rides a RWC victory. We have 3 RWC victories, but have a hundred years or more of not losing to Argentina or not losing by such huge margins (fosters ABs have the biggest losing margin against every tier 1 team bar Wales), etc c.f. fosters firsts thread

MiketheSnow

Fiji had stage fright last night and played withing themselves and as individuals

They won't make the same mistake again

If they can keep their discipline and keep 15 on the park then they have every opportunity to make their first RWC SF

This would be helped by Borthwick selecting Farrell and Ford in the backline

It doesn't work

I'm going for Fiji by more than 9

@MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

Fiji had stage fright last night and played withing themselves and as individuals

They won't make the same mistake again

If they can keep their discipline and keep 15 on the park then they have every opportunity to make their first RWC SF

This would be helped by Borthwick selecting Farrell and Ford in the backline

It doesn't work

I'm going for Fiji by more than 9

You're hoping for 😉

MiketheSnow

@Machpants said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

@MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

Fiji had stage fright last night and played withing themselves and as individuals

They won't make the same mistake again

If they can keep their discipline and keep 15 on the park then they have every opportunity to make their first RWC SF

This would be helped by Borthwick selecting Farrell and Ford in the backline

It doesn't work

I'm going for Fiji by more than 9

You're hoping for 😉

Taking the performances to date and who England struggle against

@MiketheSnow Did you watch Fiji's last 2 games? They are on a downward, not upward curve.

England can dust off the Argentina game tactics and win in multiples of 3.

nostrildamus

@Catogrande said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

@nostrildamus

I found myself thinking earlier on this morning that even if the unthinkable happened and we won the thing would this make me accept what Borthwick has been doing and I honestly felt that no, it wouldn't. I was then wondering if you Kiwis felt the same re Foster?

Same.
I'd feel smug on the outside and dirty on the inside.

MiketheSnow

@stodders said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

@MiketheSnow Did you watch Fiji's last 2 games? They are on a downward, not upward curve.

England can dust off the Argentina game tactics and win in multiples of 3.

I did

Did you watch England's play in the Pool stages?

These sides are evenly matched

Both had their best performance early

Both have been inaccurate and stuttering but have ground out a win and/or a losing BP to advance

The big difference between England and Fiji is Fiji knows how to score tries

They can't spill as much ball and butcher that many chances again

They'll be the underdogs in this fight and that will suit them