@Chris said in Otago v Canterbury:
@Landers92 said in Otago v Canterbury:
Have Otago decided they don’t care or something? Been terrible in the second half
Canterbury have just been better.
Yup. They are definitely the better team in the second half. The only team that has come out the sheds by the looks of things. Disappointing from Otago, was the same last week.
@Landers92 said in Otago v Canterbury:
@Chris said in Otago v Canterbury:
@Landers92 said in Otago v Canterbury:
Have Otago decided they don’t care or something? Been terrible in the second half
Canterbury have just been better.
Yup. They are definitely the better team in the second half. The only team that has come out the sheds by the looks of things. Disappointing from Otago, was the same last week.
Canterbury has been like that all year shit first half great 2nd half.
Atrocious second half... it seems a win over the worst Auckland team in years, and a BOP side coming off their storm week was a false dawn.
Otago were absolutely woeful in that second half, was the exact same last week so hope this isn’t becoming a trend. Need a rocket up their ass for that, incredibly disappointing.
Well done Canterbury, played well in the second half and clearly wanted it more.
While you admire Hurley for having a go he overplays far too often, putting his team under more pressure.
@KiwiInLondon said in Otago v Canterbury:
I was waiting for the Finn Hurley brain fart game. Didn’t take long
You’ve been waiting all season for that one then haven’t you. If that’s his ‘brain fart’ game, I’ll take it. He was the least of our concerns this afternoon. He was the one of the few guys out there actually having a crack trying to spark something so I’m not going to knock the guy for 1 or 2 errors.
@Landers92 he’s a liability in games where someone needs to step up. His ceiling is NPC and I’m happy to wait a few seasons to be proven right.
@KiwiInLondon said in Otago v Canterbury:
@Landers92 he’s a liability in games where someone needs to step up. His ceiling is NPC and I’m happy to wait a few seasons to be proven right.
A 21 year old in his second year of NPC has hit his ceiling? Wow, I've heard it all now. No one here has mentioned how far his career will go. I’m just saying I’m not going to knock the guy for actually having a crack when hardly anyone else in the team was.
@KiwiInLondon said in Otago v Canterbury:
@Landers92 he’s a liability in games where someone needs to step up. His ceiling is NPC and I’m happy to wait a few seasons to be proven right.
Nah his ceiling isn’t just the NPC. When I saw Hurley play against the Canes in Welly earlier this year I was pleasantly surprised, he was one of the best Landers that day with his ability to cover the back-field defensively. He was also pretty dangerous on the counter, definitely a player that punches above his weight.
@KiwiInLondon said in Otago v Canterbury:
@Landers92 he’s a liability in games where someone needs to step up. His ceiling is NPC and I’m happy to wait a few seasons to be proven right.
i was one of the first to say at the start of the season i felt he has serious limitations....also one of the first to say he'd done a lot to impress and offset his limitations this year
such a big chip on your shoulder is weird...happy to wait years to be proven right about something?....i didn;t think someone that small could bully someone....but was he your highschool bully or something?
A lot of players still learning their craft. Millsr had his best game on attack, did some of the basics he normally does well poorly. Failed a couple of times when kicking for the line, and made a couple of average errors. Yip, Hurley made a couple of errors. He was giving it a go though. His growth, generally has been great this year. If we are to pick one of Creighton of Whaanga at centre and the other on the wing. It should probably be the Aussie on the wing. He looks to have the more natural feel for playing on the wing. In terms of 'hard nosed leadership', brought Coltman back. Most of the team is quite young, there continues to be good development in the lads. Probably the most disappointing position is halfback, neither Arscott or Hastie seem to be pushing on. The Wellington game will be an interesting one. Especially with Wellington having an upcoming Ranfurly Shield challenge, will they rest players, and focus on the Sunday game. Will we do the same. Do Faleafaga, Tucker, Aho, Pledger, Leslie, and Rangitutia come in to give the guys a spell.
Good win for Canterbury and able to blood some youngsters 2- 20 year olds and 2 -21 year olds all in there first NPC in the starting XV and 2 -19 year olds and a 21 year old on the bench in their first seasons.
@Kiwiwomble said in Otago v Canterbury:
@george33 said in Otago v Canterbury:
dont leave us hanging.....
The suspense.....
@Kiwiwomble they will make top 8
@Chris said in Otago v Canterbury:
Good win for Canterbury and able to blood some youngsters 2- 20 year olds and 2 -21 year olds all in there first NPC in the starting XV and 2 -19 year olds and a 21 year old on the bench in their first seasons.
Both teams were similar in terms of the number of quite young players. The difference is that Canterbury also had probably 300+ more Super Rugby caps and some former All Blacks wrapping around their inexperienced players. While Otago's experience is badically Coltman, Lio-Willie, an injury plagued Umaga-Jensen and a few fringe Super players like Pole and Ma'u. Not diminshing Canterbury's performance just saying they are fortunate to have a lot of experience to assist in the development of their younger players.
@george33 said in Otago v Canterbury:
@Kiwiwomble they will make top 8
They could barely beat North Harbour. It's unlikely.
@SouthernMann said in Otago v Canterbury:
@Chris said in Otago v Canterbury:
Good win for Canterbury and able to blood some youngsters 2- 20 year olds and 2 -21 year olds all in there first NPC in the starting XV and 2 -19 year olds and a 21 year old on the bench in their first seasons.
Both teams were similar in terms of the number of quite young players. The difference is that Canterbury also had probably 300+ more Super Rugby caps and some former All Blacks wrapping around their inexperienced players. While Otago's experience is badically Coltman, Lio-Willie, an injury plagued Umaga-Jensen and a few fringe Super players like Pole and Ma'u. Not diminshing Canterbury's performance just saying they are fortunate to have a lot of experience to assist in the development of their younger players.
Yeah agreed ,I was just posting on the blooding of some young players for Canterbury.
@Canes4life said in Otago v Canterbury:
@george33 said in Otago v Canterbury:
@Kiwiwomble they will make top 8
They could barely beat North Harbour. It's unlikely.
They are no certainty in winning those remaining games. I've got them losing to Ta$man and Hawke's Bay. Even if they beat Southland and Northland they are still unlikely.
@Canes4life just think a few things are starting to click , Patrick and AJ and hopefully Plummer return.
@george33 said in Otago v Canterbury:
@Canes4life just think a few things are starting to click , Patrick and AJ and hopefully Plummer return.
Still a long shot, they will need other games to go their way.
@Canes4life maybe
My earlier comments about Hurley is more about his decision-making. As I said, I like that he backs himself and has a go. BUT that doesn't mean he needs to throw a miracle pass or do a chip kick every time he beats the first defender. Taking the tackle and setting up the next phase isn't a bad thing.
@Kiwiwomble I just don’t think he’s particularly good and I don’t understand the hype…. This is a sports opinion forum after all. I’m hardly bullying anyone. Let’s not be too silly. It’s tough to have a chip on your shoulder for an NPC rugby player.
@KiwiInLondon said in Otago v Canterbury:
NPC rugby player.
You can't say his ceiling is the NPC when he plays Super Rugby. Maybe you didn't make the grade as a rugby player but don't discredit the guy when he's clearly represented the Highlanders.
@KiwiInLondon said in Otago v Canterbury:
@Kiwiwomble I just don’t think he’s particularly good and I don’t understand the hype…. This is a sports opinion forum after all. I’m hardly bullying anyone. Let’s not be too silly. It’s tough to have a chip on your shoulder for an NPC rugby player.
We all have players we don't rate. For one reason or another. Out of the young Otago players, I'm open on not being huge on Cam Millar. Yet, I'm trying to see the good in his game. Sure, Hurley had a few areas to develop with and makes some mistakes. However, throughout out the season he has done a lot of good things and shown growth. It seems you are happy to ignore the good things he does, but put a mircoscope on the mistakes. Try looking at his game with a glass half full approach and you might see a player who is making a decent contribution and developing his game. He's a long way from perfect. He has however pulled off some big plays this season.
@KiwiInLondon said in Otago v Canterbury:
@Kiwiwomble I just don’t think he’s particularly good and I don’t understand the hype…. This is a sports opinion forum after all. I’m hardly bullying anyone. Let’s not be too silly. It’s tough to have a chip on your shoulder for an NPC rugby player.
two things....i dont think your bullying anyone, you're coming across as the victim
tough to have a chip on you shoulder?...this you?
@KiwiInLondon said in Otago v Canterbury:
...... I’m happy to wait a few seasons to be proven right.
