Date: Sunday 10th November 2024

Venue: Scottish Gas Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh

Kick-off: 4:10pm

Referee: Christophe Ridley (England)

Just rename this one South Africa vs South Africa A and be done with it

2 Saffers and 2 Aussies in Scotland team. This is a big test for the Boks. Glasgow has been very impressive in URC.

@OomPB said in Scotland vs Springboks:

2 Saffers and 2 Aussies in Scotland team. This is a big test for the Boks. Glasgow has been very impressive in URC.

Yeah I think Bill McLaren would choke on his famous grouse if he lived to see the day his beloved Scots were captained by a Tongan with an Aussie accent !

@MN5 Ja , everything has changed.

@OomPB Do I have a historical fact for you!

“Ian Scott Smith (31 October 1903 – 18 September 1972) was a rugby union wing who played 32 Tests for Scotland and two Tests for the British Isles. Born in Melbourne, Australia, and brought up in New Zealand, Smith moved to England and was educated at Winchester College, before studying at Oxford University and later Edinburgh University. At Oxford he took up rugby and was eventually selected for Scotland, for whom he was eligible because of his Scottish parents.

[...]

In 1933, Smith captained Scotland for the Home Nations Championship.”

From Tony Collins’ A Social History of English Rugby Union (2009), p. 164:

“As the rugby correspondent of the Athletic News pointed out just before the First World War, there were no formal guidelines for national selection: ‘sentiment enters the process of qualification to a very great extent and if the stranger from afar has a reasonable sort of association with the land wherein he is domiciled he may, if he possesses no previous national distinction, be picked for that very land of temporary residence’. [...]

[T]he IB refused to ‘take any steps towards defining international qualifications’ but suggested cryptically that if a player took part in a trial match for a national side, that fact should be ‘worthy of the sporting considerations of several unions’, thus avoiding taking any position whatsoever. The immediate beneficiaries of the IB’s fence-sitting were the Scots, who won a Grand Slam in 1925 with a three-quarter line that included Melbourne-born and New Zealand-educated Ian Smith, 1921 All Black captain George Aitken and A.C. ‘Johnny’ Wallace, who was to captain the New South Wales tour of the UK in 1927.”

Sorry to intervene, I just thought it was interesting how much present-day Scotland rugby mirrors the team from a century ago.

@Mauss said in Scotland vs Springboks:

@OomPB Do I have a historical fact for you!

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“Ian Scott Smith (31 October 1903 – 18 September 1972) was a rugby union wing who played 32 Tests for Scotland and two Tests for the British Isles. Born in Melbourne, Australia, and brought up in New Zealand, Smith moved to England and was educated at Winchester College, before studying at Oxford University and later Edinburgh University. At Oxford he took up rugby and was eventually selected for Scotland, for whom he was eligible because of his Scottish parents.

[...]

In 1933, Smith captained Scotland for the Home Nations Championship.”

From Tony Collins’ A Social History of English Rugby Union (2009), p. 164:

“As the rugby correspondent of the Athletic News pointed out just before the First World War, there were no formal guidelines for national selection: ‘sentiment enters the process of qualification to a very great extent and if the stranger from afar has a reasonable sort of association with the land wherein he is domiciled he may, if he possesses no previous national distinction, be picked for that very land of temporary residence’. [...]

[T]he IB refused to ‘take any steps towards defining international qualifications’ but suggested cryptically that if a player took part in a trial match for a national side, that fact should be ‘worthy of the sporting considerations of several unions’, thus avoiding taking any position whatsoever. The immediate beneficiaries of the IB’s fence-sitting were the Scots, who won a Grand Slam in 1925 with a three-quarter line that included Melbourne-born and New Zealand-educated Ian Smith, 1921 All Black captain George Aitken and A.C. ‘Johnny’ Wallace, who was to captain the New South Wales tour of the UK in 1927.”

Sorry to intervene, I just thought it was interesting how much present-day Scotland rugby mirrors the team from a century ago.

Excellent wicket keeper/batsman and now commentator.

Loves a feed and mentions Hawke’s Bay quite a lot

@Mauss i don't know who you are, but in like 12 hours you are already the MVP.

The rest of you need to up your game.

@mariner4life said in Scotland vs Springboks:

you are already the MVP

It's confirmed, I'm the Derrick Rose of the Silver Fern.

Can't wait to absolutely blow out my knee and be the forum journeyman I was always meant to be.

7-1 bench.

The England test is 6 days away, so probably save his A team for next week.

A truly bonkers team. I was legit laughing as I read through it.

Townsend preparing to face the Brown boks. No sorry this week we’re back to plan A. So much plan A that we’re bringing a whole new pack on at halftime to Plan A you even harder.

Scots:

15. Tom Jordan – Glasgow Warriors (1)

16. Blair Kinghorn – Toulouse (53)

17. Huw Jones – Glasgow Warriors (51)

18. Sione Tuipulotu – Glasgow Warriors (28) CAPTAIN

19. Duhan van der Merwe – Edinburgh Rugby (42)

20. Finn Russell – Bath Rugby (80) VICE-CAPTAIN

21. Ben White – Toulon (22)

22. Pierre Schoeman – Edinburgh Rugby (35)

23. Ewan Ashman – Edinburgh Rugby (20)

24. Zander Fagerson – Glasgow Warriors (68)

25. Grant Gilchrist – Edinburgh Rugby (73)

26. Scott Cummings – Glasgow Warriors (40)

27. Matt Fagerson – Glasgow Warriors (48)

28. Rory Darge – Glasgow Warriors (23) VICE-CAPTAIN

29. Jack Dempsey – Glasgow Warriors (21)

Replacements

16. Dylan Richardson – The Sharks (4)
17. Rory Sutherland – Glasgow Warriors (33)
18. Elliot Millar Mills – Northampton Saints (5)
19. Max Williamson – Glasgow Warriors (5)
20. Josh Bayliss – Bath Rugby (7)
21. Jamie Ritchie – Edinburgh Rugby (52)
22. Jamie Dobie – Glasgow Warriors (7)
23. Stafford McDowall – Glasgow Warriors (6)

@Smuts is that Scottish numbering?

@OomPB Ja Oom. Very deep bench

That's a good Scotland team. Could be interesting.

@OomPB said in Scotland vs Springboks:

7-1 bench.

The England test is 6 days away, so probably save his A team for next week.

Just to piss off Matt Williams

@Machpants and the president of WR.

@Smuts said in Scotland vs Springboks:

Scots:
12. Sione Tuipulotu – Glasgow Warriors (28) CAPTAIN

Will his number ones consist of a traditional woollen tartan kilt or a floral one?

@Mr-Fish said in Scotland vs Springboks:

That's a good Scotland team. Could be interesting.

They’re so confident they dropped one of their South African wingers by the looks of things

5-0 for the Southern Hemisphere over the Northern boys so far this weekend. Can the Springboks make it a clean sweep?

Boks already ahead after 4 minutes. Mapimpi in. Terrible defence by Scotland.

Scott Cummings' YC upgraded to a 20 minute RC.

Finn Russell with a penalty. 3-5

Youd expect reds every game if thats the standard now.

Finn Russell with another penalty. 6-5.

Bitty, stop start game so far. Scotland hanging in there. South Africa looking a bit toothless. But a long way to go.

Brilliant vision and skill from Willie

So dumb from the Scottish halfback. SA haven't been great but have been so clinical when in the Scottish 22. If only we had Brown in the AB camp.

Red card was incredibly harsh. Imagine if we didn't have the 20 minute red, that would have been curtains for Scotland.

@sparky still trying to get my head around how that’s a RC ..about as soft as they come

Boks well ahead at half time. 19-9. Three tries to none.

@Steven-Harris It was a borderline YC at worst IMHO. 20 minute Reds at Test level sadly are going to mean more Reds.

There is so much worry around the UK about making the game "safe" and the possibilities of future litigation.

Scotland the better team in the second half so far.

@sparky said in Scotland vs Springboks:

Scotland the better team in the second half so far.

But couldn’t score in a brothel

@MiketheSnow SA's goal line defence is strong to be fair.

Russell is a handbrake IMHO

Too showy

Another Scottish penalty.

Scotland 15 SA 19.

Not sure taking the 3 now is the right option when SA is down to 14.

@akan004 said in Scotland vs Springboks:

Not sure taking the 3 now is the right option when SA is down to 14.

Shit decision