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@OomPB Do I have a historical fact for you!
“Ian Scott Smith (31 October 1903 – 18 September 1972) was a rugby union wing who played 32 Tests for Scotland and two Tests for the British Isles. Born in Melbourne, Australia, and brought up in New Zealand, Smith moved to England and was educated at Winchester College, before studying at Oxford University and later Edinburgh University. At Oxford he took up rugby and was eventually selected for Scotland, for whom he was eligible because of his Scottish parents.
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In 1933, Smith captained Scotland for the Home Nations Championship.”
From Tony Collins’ A Social History of English Rugby Union (2009), p. 164:
“As the rugby correspondent of the Athletic News pointed out just before the First World War, there were no formal guidelines for national selection: ‘sentiment enters the process of qualification to a very great extent and if the stranger from afar has a reasonable sort of association with the land wherein he is domiciled he may, if he possesses no previous national distinction, be picked for that very land of temporary residence’. [...]
[T]he IB refused to ‘take any steps towards defining international qualifications’ but suggested cryptically that if a player took part in a trial match for a national side, that fact should be ‘worthy of the sporting considerations of several unions’, thus avoiding taking any position whatsoever. The immediate beneficiaries of the IB’s fence-sitting were the Scots, who won a Grand Slam in 1925 with a three-quarter line that included Melbourne-born and New Zealand-educated Ian Smith, 1921 All Black captain George Aitken and A.C. ‘Johnny’ Wallace, who was to captain the New South Wales tour of the UK in 1927.”
Sorry to intervene, I just thought it was interesting how much present-day Scotland rugby mirrors the team from a century ago.
@Mauss said in Scotland vs Springboks:
@OomPB Do I have a historical fact for you!
“Ian Scott Smith (31 October 1903 – 18 September 1972) was a rugby union wing who played 32 Tests for Scotland and two Tests for the British Isles. Born in Melbourne, Australia, and brought up in New Zealand, Smith moved to England and was educated at Winchester College, before studying at Oxford University and later Edinburgh University. At Oxford he took up rugby and was eventually selected for Scotland, for whom he was eligible because of his Scottish parents.
[...]
In 1933, Smith captained Scotland for the Home Nations Championship.”
From Tony Collins’ A Social History of English Rugby Union (2009), p. 164:
“As the rugby correspondent of the Athletic News pointed out just before the First World War, there were no formal guidelines for national selection: ‘sentiment enters the process of qualification to a very great extent and if the stranger from afar has a reasonable sort of association with the land wherein he is domiciled he may, if he possesses no previous national distinction, be picked for that very land of temporary residence’. [...]
[T]he IB refused to ‘take any steps towards defining international qualifications’ but suggested cryptically that if a player took part in a trial match for a national side, that fact should be ‘worthy of the sporting considerations of several unions’, thus avoiding taking any position whatsoever. The immediate beneficiaries of the IB’s fence-sitting were the Scots, who won a Grand Slam in 1925 with a three-quarter line that included Melbourne-born and New Zealand-educated Ian Smith, 1921 All Black captain George Aitken and A.C. ‘Johnny’ Wallace, who was to captain the New South Wales tour of the UK in 1927.”
Sorry to intervene, I just thought it was interesting how much present-day Scotland rugby mirrors the team from a century ago.
Excellent wicket keeper/batsman and now commentator.
Loves a feed and mentions Hawke’s Bay quite a lot
@mariner4life said in Scotland vs Springboks:
you are already the MVP
It's confirmed, I'm the Derrick Rose of the Silver Fern.
Can't wait to absolutely blow out my knee and be the forum journeyman I was always meant to be.
A truly bonkers team. I was legit laughing as I read through it.
Townsend preparing to face the Brown boks. No sorry this week we’re back to plan A. So much plan A that we’re bringing a whole new pack on at halftime to Plan A you even harder.
Scots:
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Tom Jordan – Glasgow Warriors (1)
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Blair Kinghorn – Toulouse (53)
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Huw Jones – Glasgow Warriors (51)
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Sione Tuipulotu – Glasgow Warriors (28) CAPTAIN
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Duhan van der Merwe – Edinburgh Rugby (42)
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Finn Russell – Bath Rugby (80) VICE-CAPTAIN
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Ben White – Toulon (22)
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Pierre Schoeman – Edinburgh Rugby (35)
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Ewan Ashman – Edinburgh Rugby (20)
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Zander Fagerson – Glasgow Warriors (68)
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Grant Gilchrist – Edinburgh Rugby (73)
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Scott Cummings – Glasgow Warriors (40)
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Matt Fagerson – Glasgow Warriors (48)
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Rory Darge – Glasgow Warriors (23) VICE-CAPTAIN
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Jack Dempsey – Glasgow Warriors (21)
Replacements
- Dylan Richardson – The Sharks (4)
- Rory Sutherland – Glasgow Warriors (33)
- Elliot Millar Mills – Northampton Saints (5)
- Max Williamson – Glasgow Warriors (5)
- Josh Bayliss – Bath Rugby (7)
- Jamie Ritchie – Edinburgh Rugby (52)
- Jamie Dobie – Glasgow Warriors (7)
- Stafford McDowall – Glasgow Warriors (6)
@OomPB said in Scotland vs Springboks:
7-1 bench.
The England test is 6 days away, so probably save his A team for next week.
Just to piss off Matt Williams
@Machpants and the president of WR.
@Smuts said in Scotland vs Springboks:
Scots:
12. Sione Tuipulotu – Glasgow Warriors (28) CAPTAIN
Will his number ones consist of a traditional woollen tartan kilt or a floral one?
@Mr-Fish said in Scotland vs Springboks:
That's a good Scotland team. Could be interesting.
They’re so confident they dropped one of their South African wingers by the looks of things
5-0 for the Southern Hemisphere over the Northern boys so far this weekend. Can the Springboks make it a clean sweep?
Bitty, stop start game so far. Scotland hanging in there. South Africa looking a bit toothless. But a long way to go.
@Steven-Harris It was a borderline YC at worst IMHO. 20 minute Reds at Test level sadly are going to mean more Reds.
There is so much worry around the UK about making the game "safe" and the possibilities of future litigation.
@sparky said in Scotland vs Springboks:
Scotland the better team in the second half so far.
But couldn’t score in a brothel
@MiketheSnow SA's goal line defence is strong to be fair.
@akan004 said in Scotland vs Springboks:
Not sure taking the 3 now is the right option when SA is down to 14.
Shit decision
@MiketheSnow said in Scotland vs Springboks:
@akan004 said in Scotland vs Springboks:
Not sure taking the 3 now is the right option when SA is down to 14.
Shit decision
Just used up 2 mins of card