Marcus Smith doing very well behind a dominant pack.

Jamie George scores England's third off a 5m lineout drive.

Can England avoid taking their foot off the gas?

Tommy Freeman scores England's 4th try.

TMO checking it even though the conversion's been taken and missed.

Benefit of the doubt should be given there surely?

No try, absurd call.

This sport is not helping itself.

@sparky said in England v Japan - Autumn International:

even though the conversion's been taken and missed

What's the issue with that?

Still 21-0.

@Bones The rule used to be if the conversion has been taken they wouldn't check it.

England score another of a line out drive. Jamie George has a double.

@sparky said in England v Japan - Autumn International:

@Bones The rule used to be if the conversion has been taken they wouldn't check it.

The rule also used to be no lifting in the line out. I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

@Bones I hate how much influence the TMO has these days. I hate that a game that used to be based on common sense is unfathomable.

Japan in. Excellent try.

Woeful defence, one guy blitzing, rest drifting. What the fuck do they do in training?

This team could be good if they got their coaching and training sorted out

Clever work by Borthwick arranging this game last so he can claim his squad is making progress.

England looking much more one dimensional in the second half.

Furbank scores the first try of the second half after great work by Tommy Freeman.

England are masters at getting away with being in the way of the opposition at the breakdown, "accidentally" ending up there in the tackle and/or rolling the wrong way. I wish refs would penalise it when the halfback is marginalised by having to take an extra step or two backwards or work his way around a player, rather than just ignoring it because the halfback got it out.

Once Marcus Smith shifts from first receiver England never look as good.

Japan scores their second.

When was the last time Twickenham saw four scores by English hookers?

England's winger have good pace and are reaping the benefit. 9 tries now.

Fell asleep in the second half, woke up to see the same back row on the pitch. Learned nothing from that game, still can’t defend, still not dynamic enough at the breakdown.. awful autumn all told, worse than I thought we might be with fundamental flaws in our game. Change the coach…

It finished 59-14. Not a great contest or spectacle. England have lots of good players, but don't really feel like the sum of all their parts.

@Dodge Foster's available. I suspect Gatland is about to become so.

But I expect Borthwick will be allowed to continue onto the Six Nations.

I'd love to see what Foster could do. It would be intriguing.

This was a game where we had the opportunity to firstly try out some newer guys and secondly look to hone our attack. Farrell did both yesterday with Ireland and learned a lot. But what did we actually learn that we didn’t already know? JVP is not up to it at this level. We knew that. Randall is a menace if given time and licence by the coach. Well we knew that too.

Take away our four tries from a driving line out against a modest team and where were we?

We needed an emphatic win and we got that but sheesh, what a waste.

Farrell is English isn't he? Might be a good coach for England. Ireland are apparently so good they don't need one.