Match thread

ShaquilleOatmeal
ShaquilleOatmeal1 year ago
#119

Robertson can obviously do whatever he likes but I find wholesale changes don’t work very well in terms of either team performance or finding out how well individual players go.

What we tend to see is the A team run out several weeks in a row and then the B team for a week. I’d prefer them to make a couple of changes a week to see how certain players go playing alongside the core group.

The bench can also be used well here, making replacements at (or even before) half time, instead of giving players ten minutes at the end of the game.

nonpartizan
nonpartizan1 year ago
#120

@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks v France 2:

Robertson can obviously do whatever he likes but I find wholesale changes don’t work very well in terms of either team performance or finding out how well individual players go.

What we tend to see is the A team run out several weeks in a row and then the B team for a week. I’d prefer them to make a couple of changes a week to see how certain players go playing alongside the core group.

The bench can also be used well here, making replacements at (or even before) half time, instead of giving players ten minutes at the end of the game.

Agree with you entirely.

If you make wholesale changes it becomes impossible to evaluate the contribution of individual players because they aren't playing in a consistent and stable side.

I think it's better to strive towards having a very clearly defined first choice XV and then just tinkering with a selection here or there.

gt12
gt121 year ago
#121

Yeah, if they want Vaii to have time at 6, bring in Patty T.

If it was accommodating Barrett - which is a bit of an issue - then bring in Finau to start, Pat T off the bench.

Similarly, not sure we learn much with Dmac at 15, so if he’s to be the bench man, leave him there and bring in Clarke or Narawa.

Kirwan
Kirwan1 year ago
#122

One thing that was missing in the weekend was people clearing out properly at the rucks, be that for size or being Blackadderish (ineffective).

If Dalton comes in at six, Jaconson at 8 and Patrick at Lock, at least that area will be clearned up.

We need a bigger team, ending the game with Savea and Kirifi on at the same time = puke.

gt12
gt121 year ago
#123

Given this opportunity, I wonder whether they move Ioane to 14.

I wonder if he could be better there as he could be integrated from the blind through the centers.

@Mauss can probably actually have a look at this, but to the extent that he passes, Rieko seems stronger passing and distributing from right to left (not really unsurprising), so for strike plays he could be an interesting option off the blind wing.

I’ll admit to not having watched the game btw, but I’m not convinced about Rieko on the wing - he’s really not that good under the high ball, so arguably its better to leave him at 11 and see if it works out. Switching him around may not help him show whether he still has it or not.

How many tests has Clarke had at 14? Narawa may be the safest and easiest change.

frugby
frugby1 year ago
#124

My Predicted 23:

  1. de Groot
  2. Taylor
  3. Newell
  4. Vaa'i
  5. Holland
  6. Jacobson
  7. Savea
  8. Lio-Willie
  9. Roigard
  10. Barrett
  11. Clarke
  12. J Barrett
  13. Proctor
  14. Ioane
  15. Jordan
  16. Taukei'aho
  17. Norris
  18. Tosi
  19. Tuipulotu
  20. Finau
  21. Ratima
  22. Tupaea
  23. McKenzie
MN5
MN51 year ago
#125

@frugby said in All Blacks v France 2:

My Predicted 23:

  1. de Groot
  2. Taylor
  3. Newell
  4. Vaa'i
  5. Holland
  6. Jacobson
  7. Savea
  8. Lio-Willie
  9. Roigard
  10. Barrett
  11. Clarke
  12. J Barrett
  13. Proctor
  14. Ioane
  15. Jordan
  16. Taukei'aho
  17. Norris
  18. Tosi
  19. Tuipulotu
  20. Finau
  21. Ratima
  22. Tupaea
  23. McKenzie

Close, I reckon Tuipulotu comes in for Barrett as a straight swap, Vaa'i stays at six, Kirifi on the bench and Jacobson misses out completely ( yep I reckon they will want to see more of DK especially at home )

Canes4life
Canes4life1 year ago
#126

Anyone got the scoop for this week?

Bones
Bones1 year ago
#127

I will find it very frustrating if there's anything but last week's group with injury changes.

3rd test, have at it.

Bones
Bones1 year ago
#131

@Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

I will find it very frustrating if there's anything but last week's group with injury changes.

3rd test, have at it.

Actually, I'd be happy to see Vaai go back to lock if Ah Kuoi goes to blindside, but it wouldn't make much sense when you can just throw PT in at lock.

MN5
MN51 year ago
#134

@Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

@Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

I will find it very frustrating if there's anything but last week's group with injury changes.

3rd test, have at it.

Actually, I'd be happy to see Vaai go back to lock if Ah Kuoi goes to blindside, but it wouldn't make much sense when you can just throw PT in at lock.

No. Chopping and changing won't do him any good. Let's keep him at six. He's finally become a force at test level and there aren't exactly other options beating down the door at blindside.

Kiwiwomble
Kiwiwomble1 year ago
#138

@MN5 said in All Blacks v France 2:

@Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

@Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

I will find it very frustrating if there's anything but last week's group with injury changes.

3rd test, have at it.

Actually, I'd be happy to see Vaai go back to lock if Ah Kuoi goes to blindside, but it wouldn't make much sense when you can just throw PT in at lock.

No. Chopping and changing won't do him any good. Let's keep him at six. He's finally become a force at test level and there aren't exactly other options beating down the door at blindside.

i feel like im being gaslit...there seems to be a continuous discussion about things like 12 and 13 are wildly different positions and very few people can learn both....but also lets move people around from one game to another to make sure theyre versatile