The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?

SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.

Wiese goes full Wiese. Red card for a headbutt.

Prolly about time Rassie and his boys got their comeuppance for their antics, but can't see Italy taking advantage.

@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

Wiese goes full Wiese. Red card for a headbutt.

I thought there was nothing in that - just touched his forehead with the Italian player. Totally deserved Red for stupidity in today's reffing environment, though.

And the Italian on the sideline in acres of space, knocking it on spectacularly from a fine pass, illustrates why.

@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v Italy II:

@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

Wiese goes full Wiese. Red card for a headbutt.

I thought there was nothing in that - just touched his forehead with the Italian player. Totally deserved Red for stupidity in today's reffing environment, though.

Prexactly. There's zero reason to do it, doing it either shows you've lost your head or you're trying to aggravate others to. Fuck it off.

Would've been red a year or two ago, but will be mitigated to yellow for the change in direction.

I only just realised that's not Kolbe on the wing

A 14 man Sth Africa with loads of new players are making the Italian A team look a bit silly.

Hate to think what they'd do to the French team currently in NZ.

@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v Italy II:

Hate to think what they'd do to the French team currently in NZ.

Lose horribly.

Who are the new players?

@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v Italy II:

Hate to think what they'd do to the French team currently in NZ.

Lose horribly.

Who are the new players?

I heard the Saffa commentators talking about 4 debutants.

Strikes me SA are years ahead of us player-pool/development wise

@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v Italy II:

@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v Italy II:

Hate to think what they'd do to the French team currently in NZ.

Lose horribly.

Who are the new players?

I heard the Saffa commentators talking about 4 debutants.

Strikes me SA are years ahead of us player-pool/development wise

By playing 4 debutants against what appears to be a weakened Italy?

I can't tell if you're taking the piss or angling on a foster defence.

Norris, Holland, Kirifi, Tavatavanawai....

I'm thinking I've been whooshed

@Bones

Thinking more about how much better SA are at developing players.

And playing for 80 minutes...

EDIT: The Barrett Conglomerate make up for stupid cards though.....

@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v Italy II:

@Bones

Thinking more about how much better SA are at developing players.

And playing for 80 minutes...

Their depth is scary good atm. They do have the massive advantage of having 4x the registered players that we do and they pick from overseas. We also lose plenty of our schoolboy talent to the NRL, something that they don't have to worry about.

@Victor-Meldrew they have a clear way of playing. It helps. Quite a lot of change coming in the next 2-3 years as their squad changes.

They have an insane amount of talent, but SA always has. Rassie is adept at selecting the right players for how he wants to play. They still bleed when you cut them though

@stodders

Like the French team. Was more commenting about how much more clinical SA are for 80 mins and how much depth they have.

@stodders said in Springboks v Italy II:

@Victor-Meldrew they have a clear way of playing. It helps. Quite a lot of change coming in the next 2-3 years as their squad changes.

They have an insane amount of talent, but SA always has. Rassie is adept at selecting the right players for how he wants to play. They still bleed when you cut them though

Hope so. Want to roll them over in the RC.