Match thread

Landers92

A late change with BB not on the bench. Have just asked why that changed

It's surprising that they didn't include Ah Kuoi in the team. Ah Kuoi and Papali'i makes more sense

nostrildamus

Yes it was an opportunity to test another lock/6 methinks.
They seem to like Finau and want to give Kirifi another chance

Bovidae

Worst case scenario is that Tuipulotu goes down early. Having lock cover on the bench would be better than expecting Finau to play big minutes there.

Noah Hotham's Dad should be able to see him play as he is currently in NZ with the Hong Kong U20s.

ARHS

Perhaps they have chosen to stick to named squad, then confirmed injury replacements to replicate a tour or RWC situation. I.e. testing their planned contingency options to the max.
Thought Norris might play given his feature article. Is that 7 Waikato players in starting lineup though?
I am hoping the plan is to play an expansive style this week and move the French forwards around a lot.
I have tickets and am looking forward to this.

Pepe

@Landers92

I think I read somewhere BB had a hand injury?

mariner4life

@bayimports said in All Blacks v France III:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France III:

In days gone by ah kuoi would be a solid Super Rugby cult hero.
The fact he's in line for a test is a sign of where we're at.

Hes jonno gibbes from wish

I will accept Temu Tanerau but won’t accept DSW comparisons lol

bro he's a filthy Marist player from Wellington, i feel no loyalty at all.

nostrildamus

@MN5 said in All Blacks v France III:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France III:

Not a very big backline. But 4 7s in the 23..

3 guys over 100kg and we know Ratima is a gym powerhouse. They'll be ok.

Height lad, height. Ok midfield, Ioane good winger size but doesn't jump and rest of backline not tall. I expect France to kick to them, a lot.

nostrildamus

And I haven't really seen this raw gym strength from Ratima at test level.

MN5

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France III:

And I haven't really seen this raw gym strength from Ratima at test level.

Amazing power to weight ratio but no, neither have I.

Considering he can lift more than quite a number of forwards he should be dominating more.

Really don't see the point of picking Bower when he wasn't even named in the original squad. Norris is the future, so why not give him another go. Happy with the other selections.

Who will lead the Haka?

A bit of a dice roll in this game with some of the selections.

ACT Crusader

@akan004 said in All Blacks v France III:

Really don't see the point of picking Bower when he wasn't even named in the original squad. Norris is the future, so why not give him another go. Happy with the other selections.

Giving every one a run that was named in the original squad and all the replacements that were officially added eg Bower and Papali’.

mencey

Ah Kuoi makes much more sense than having 2 loose forwards on the bench. DP wasn't picked so for me I would have left him out.

@akan004 said in All Blacks v France III:

Really don't see the point of picking Bower when he wasn't even named in the original squad. Norris is the future, so why not give him another go. Happy with the other selections.

Given the way Jase was fluffing Norris on Stuff I wonder if he picked up a late injury?

ACT Crusader

Some positives for me:

Patty T being fit
Lomax being back
Ardie remaining at #7
McAlister making his debut
Reece back in the lineup
The Chiefs 9-10-12-13 combo

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v France III:

Some positives for me:

Patty T being fit
Lomax being back
Ardie remaining at #7
McAlister making his debut
> Reece back in the lineup
The Chiefs 9-10-12-13 combo

@brodean I agree. Reece shouldn't be in.. not only is he not good enough, he fails the no dickhead policy badly..,, repeat offender.

KiwiMurph

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v France III:

Some positives for me:

Patty T being fit
Lomax being back
Ardie remaining at #7
McAlister making his debut
Reece back in the lineup
The Chiefs 9-10-12-13 combo

Love getting his first start not a positive?

ACT Crusader

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France III:

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v France III:

Some positives for me:

Patty T being fit
Lomax being back
Ardie remaining at #7
McAlister making his debut
Reece back in the lineup
The Chiefs 9-10-12-13 combo

Love getting his first start not a positive?

I was saving that for @Canes4life

Although I was going to wait for @Bones to post that Jordan should be starting at fullback….

Canes4life

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v France III:

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France III:

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v France III:

Some positives for me:

Patty T being fit
Lomax being back
Ardie remaining at #7
McAlister making his debut
Reece back in the lineup
The Chiefs 9-10-12-13 combo

Love getting his first start not a positive?

I was saving that for @Canes4life

Although I was going to wait for @Bones to post that Jordan should be starting at fullback….

Whoop

mariner4life

Team is not as bad as i thought with Patty T available. I hope Jacobson finally shows why the coaches have so much faith in him. Finau has big shoes to fill. Sami T gets big minutes. Great to see Lomax back.

While i am not stoked about the backs, at least they have all played together a lot.

I still think it's going to be a messy performance.

@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France III:

Team is not as bad as i thought with Patty T available. I hope Jacobson finally shows why the coaches have so much faith in him. Finau has big shoes to fill. Sami T gets big minutes. Great to see Lomax back.

While i am not stoked about the backs, at least they have all played together a lot.

I still think it's going to be a messy performance.

Agree mostly though hopefully some of the performance will be good like last week for 40 minutes.

The Chiefs backs have a good combination. Norris and Taukei'aho have familiarity as do Jacobson and Finau.

The tight five on paper is still strong at set piece time. Maybe with Norris, Taukei'aho, and Tuipulotu starting there is a bit too much of a carry focus in the tight five?

antipodean

@brodean said in All Blacks v France III:

The tight five on paper is still strong at set piece time. Maybe with Norris, Taukei'aho, and Tuipulotu starting there is a bit too much of a carry focus in the tight five?

Que?

As opposed to what?

@antipodean said in All Blacks v France III:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France III:

@brodean said in All Blacks v France III:

So Papali'i covers lock.

I assumed they'd move Finau and shuffle the loosies maybe?

My thoughts too. Imagine having a 6'3" lock these days.

PT won't be playing for 80 minutes. At some point Finau will move into lock around the 50 - 60 min mark. If there is an injury to Finau or Holland then Papali'i covers lock.

Last week Finau had Papali'i's role on the bench and he was forced to move into lock when Tuipulotu and Vaa'i had injuries/HIA so obviously this scenario is not outside the realms of possibility. In the case of injury/HIA to two of Holland, Tuipulotu, and Finau, then Papali'i covers lock. That is part of the role of 19.

I don't like it but it is what it is.

antipodean

@brodean said in All Blacks v France III:

@antipodean said in All Blacks v France III:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France III:

@brodean said in All Blacks v France III:

So Papali'i covers lock.

I assumed they'd move Finau and shuffle the loosies maybe?

My thoughts too. Imagine having a 6'3" lock these days.

PT won't be playing for 80 minutes. At some point Finau will move into lock. If there is an injury to Finau or Holland then Papali'i covers lock.

Last week Finau had Papali'i's role on the bench and he was forced to move into lock so obviously this scenario is not outside the realms of possibility. In the case of injury to two of Holland, Tuipulotu, and Finau, then Papali'i covers lock. That is part of the role of 19.

I don't like it but it is what it is.

I don't know what you think your post was meant to elucidate or expand upon. I've quite clearly stated that I think having someone of Papali'i's stature covering lock is poor coaching.

Kirwan

I hope we get to see some decent minutes from Love. Time some new blood in the 10 or 15 role, even as the bench option. I'm not convinced yet Jordan is not better on the wing, for example.

And Dmac is a 15 IMO.

The Myth of Damian Mckenzie facebook page sure likes to be taking credit for the "leaked" backline.