@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@frugby said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

Personally think some of the critique of Christie is harsh. He is the fourth choice halfback, and he played like a fourth choice halfback - but you can’t knock his effort levels.

Considering the circumstances, I think criticising him for what he simply can’t do feels unfair.

I find it unfathomable that such a limited player is the fourth best option in New Zealand. He can't think quickly, can't execute decisively and he's fucking inaccurate.

And yet his kicking was better than our apparent second ranked 9. That is a concern

Jordan 3 off second place now.

@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@frugby said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

Personally think some of the critique of Christie is harsh. He is the fourth choice halfback, and he played like a fourth choice halfback - but you can’t knock his effort levels.

Considering the circumstances, I think criticising him for what he simply can’t do feels unfair.

I find it unfathomable that such a limited player is the fourth best option in New Zealand. He can't think quickly, can't execute decisively and he's fucking inaccurate.

For a second there I thought you were talking about Beauden Barrett...

Ginga was the best available option - in an ideal world he wouldn't be in the 23. . Did some shit stuff as did other players, but also plenty of good stuff.

@canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@frugby said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

Personally think some of the critique of Christie is harsh. He is the fourth choice halfback, and he played like a fourth choice halfback - but you can’t knock his effort levels.

Considering the circumstances, I think criticising him for what he simply can’t do feels unfair.

I find it unfathomable that such a limited player is the fourth best option in New Zealand. He can't think quickly, can't execute decisively and he's fucking inaccurate.

And yet his kicking was better than our apparent second ranked 9. That is a concern

There are major skill gaps in New Zealand rugby. And in a professional era it seems we don'[t have sufficient competition for them to be working on fixing them.

I mean how is it we had Nuggy for so long and yet we're now still suffering halfbacks who pass poorly when he showed you just have to work on core skills?

@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

but also plenty of good stuff.

Plenty?

@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

I mean how is it we had Nuggy for so long and yet we're now still suffering halfbacks who pass poorly when he showed you just have to work on core skills?

Because the guys who idolised and copied AS are now only in their late teens?

@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

I mean how is it we had Nuggy for so long and yet we're now still suffering halfbacks who pass poorly when he showed you just have to work on core skills?

Because the guys who idolised and copied AS are now only in their late teens?

Because the guys that wanted his job are professionals? Roigard, Ratima and Christie were in their late teens when Aaron was playing for the All Blacks.

@antipodean

Well, I'm not getting into a conversation defending Christie as anything more than 4th string, but his kicking was good, he dealt with the Boks around the ruck well and some of his passing in open play was spot on.

Certainly no worse than the AB scrum.

@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@antipodean

Well, I'm not getting into a conversation defending Christie as anything more than 4th string, but his kicking was good, he dealt with the Boks around the ruck well and some of his passing in open play was spot on.

Certainly no worse than the AB scrum.

Razor left him on about 15 minutes too long IMHO. We saw more bad Christie than good as the game went on

@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

Just watching the highlights

Le Roux was very unlucky for the first try

If he'd made contact with Narawa it would have been a YC and possible Penalty Try

Should Narawa have released the ball before running over to score?

Wasn't tackled, but wasn't allowed to be. A tough one to call.

Off your feet, out of the game?

"not held"

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@hydro11 said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

South Africa played the better rugby. We were just lucky we got a few good tries early and could hold on.

Yeah I'm calling bullshit on that. We weren't great but I won't have that we got lucky and they played better rugby

They ran lateral way too much, and reverted to type with their own kick-a-thon. They had discipline issues also.

@Jet said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@kev said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@Frank Narawa should have started the season in the test team. Hope he is okay - great 4 mins or so.

Same thing happened to him last time. Scored on debut and then hurt his back.

Big fan of Narawa but is he our new Foodbill….

If Narawa is out, who is next caboff the rank? Please dont say Reece..
I'd rather Leicester F or Clarke if fit..

@Jailbreak7 said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

If Narawa is out, who is next caboff the rank? Please dont say Reece..
I'd rather Leicester F or Clarke if fit..

Just put Jordan at 14 and one of Love or DMac at 15.

Clarke should good to go as well

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@Jailbreak7 said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

If Narawa is out, who is next caboff the rank? Please dont say Reece..
I'd rather Leicester F or Clarke if fit..

Just put Jordan at 14 and one of Love or DMac at 15.

Interesting that WJ didn't feature as much from 14. Probably more to do with the fact we refused to hold onto the ball than anything else

Brutal game

Amazing anthems

@kev said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@sparky Billy Proctor hasn’t found his feet. Still looking to play super rugby at test level. Doesn’t drop the ball as much as Reiko which is a plus but needs to improve his decisions.

Reiko hasn't dropped the ball once.

Don't be surprised if you can't buy any salt tomorrow at any shop anywhere.

All the salt in the world is currently being used up on X by Springboks fans crying about the ref.

I have just seen it.
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That was awesome