Sad but we're a paper tiger now. Interesting that our own decline mirrors (at least in my view) the decline of the game as any type of spectacle that's worth watching.
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Springboks II
@SammyC said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@brodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Also Tupou Vaa'i's tackle success this season is 77% which is shocking for a loose forward/lock even at NPC level.
All that laughing and clapping looks pretty dumb when you top the missed tackles stat 3 matches in a row
That guy is an idiot. Must be someone better
Our scrum only improved when Fabian Holland came on. Same as what happened in Eden Park. The referee was very focused on ruling on what was presented to him and he constantly saw our scrum going backwards in for the majority of 2 tests so he was going to reward this. Vaai and Barret not a powerful enough pairing in the engine room.
Just like not picking Caleb Clarke on the wing when we got massacred in the air was stupid so was not picking our most powerful lock when they had worked over our scrum.
@tubbyj said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Our scrum only improved when Fabian Holland came on. Same as what happened in Eden Park. The referee was very focused on ruling on what was presented to him and he constantly saw our scrum going backwards in for the majority of 2 tests so he was going to reward this. Vaai and Barret not a powerful enough pairing in the engine room.
Just like not picking Caleb Clarke on the wing when we got massacred in the air was stupid so was not picking our most powerful lock when they had worked over our scrum.
@tubbyj said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Our scrum only improved when Fabian Holland came on. Same as what happened in Eden Park. The referee was very focused on ruling on what was presented to him and he constantly saw our scrum going backwards in for the majority of 2 tests so he was going to reward this. Vaai and Barret not a powerful enough pairing in the engine room.
Just like not picking Caleb Clarke on the wing when we got massacred in the air was stupid so was not picking our most powerful lock when they had worked over our scrum.
@tubbyj said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Our scrum only improved when Fabian Holland came on. Same as what happened in Eden Park. The referee was very focused on ruling on what was presented to him and he constantly saw our scrum going backwards in for the majority of 2 tests so he was going to reward this. Vaai and Barret not a powerful enough pairing in the engine room.
Just like not picking Caleb Clarke on the wing when we got massacred in the air was stupid so was not picking our most powerful lock when they had worked over our scrum.
holland at least one scrum packed at blindside
@tubbyj said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Are their any wingers or fullbacks in NZ who are good under the high ball other than Caleb Clarke? We used to have Corey Jane, Ben Smith, Israel Dagg, Richard Kahui.
We also used to have backs who could consistently kick well......
@mariner4life Excellent analysis.
@kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@game_film Not sure Sotutu is the answer
One player isn't the answer. Our inability to clinically perform fundamentals such as kick receptions, line outs and scrums seems to be increasingly apparent as games go on. Sometimes we scrape home, this time we got pumped. Fault lies with the everyone from the coaches to the players. There are some fundamental problems in how we are approaching the game at the moment. And we have a coach who is impeding the progress of the whole group because of his selections
I find ruck arrival to be the most useless stat.
But it does seem to tie to the eye test on Parker.
@tubbyj said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Are their any wingers or fullbacks in NZ who are good under the high ball other than Caleb Clarke? We used to have Corey Jane, Ben Smith, Israel Dagg, Richard Kahui.
He wasn’t even a winger which makes the current guys efforts look even worse
Extremely low running metres from the back three. They have the advantage of returning kicks so pick up easy metres normally
I know this has been brought up with loosies in the past but Parker was parked out wide near or on the wing (no pun intended) - presumably by design whereas last week he was playing in the middle of the field.
We gave their back 3 yards after the catch, a luxury ours were not afforded.
Considering the width we played with, those numbers are testament to the excellent SA scramble to ot allow the break outs
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
I know this has been brought up with loosies in the past but Parker was parked out wide near or on the wing (no pun intended) - presumably by design whereas last week he was playing in the middle of the field.
Yeah, on attack we had Sititi on one side and savea/carter on the other, because thats where the ball was going, the middle was left to the tighties who we bypassed a lot anyway. EdG with no runs but a few passes.
Their kicks seemed much higher than ours, and positioned to allow their chasers ample chance to compete. By comparison, they seemed to be able to field our kicks under little to no pressure most of the time
Just because the second half was worse and we took a halftime lead doesn't mean the first half was very good.
The signs were all there in the first half
First half territory stats: Boks 75% ABs 25%
Boks had 2 first half tries that we escaped from - the halfback knock on and the Jordie try saver.
We were playing with fire in the first half.