Haha hilarious he calls an offside now.

Terrible lineout.

We need a complete haul of the 'leadership' team.

Scott Barrett
Beauden Barrett
Jordie Barrett
Ardie Savea

What to make of that. Some will point to Robertson and his coaching staff, but player for player we just aren’t that good. Our basic skills were poor all night, and have been all year. You can’t really blame the coaches for that.

We bemoaned Rieko last year, but his replacement is no better. We bemoaned Beauden, but McKenzie is hardly any better. Without Roigard we are absolutely fucked at the moment.

Injuries have forced us to try different players - and we have - and lone behold they aren’t better than those in front of them.

I don’t think Razor should be sacked, perhaps one or two of his assistants should be, but if we turn up to South Africa with these same players, we will lose 4-0, and I think that would be terminal.

Codie Taylor was cupping his ear when we were 12-0 up.

Just a reality check of where we are at

Ashamed
Disappointed

The UK is a lonely place to be on a day like this

All over.

Congratulations to England.

Sums it up

Great to see the falling offload training is going well

@Steven-Harris said in England Vs All Blacks:

Damage was done in the first half imo , we needed to put some distance between us and England
BB was just awful , should be his last ever test

It won't be his last under Razor though. Will probably be picked next week. Razor needs to go.

At least England deserved the win. They've got some good players and played decently well.

Taylor is the only player from the older generation that is worth his salt. BB, Savea, ALB, Scott Barrett all need to go. Jordie can stay for now.

It’s been 10 years of the same old shit. Zero composure

Well done England, you didn't do much but you didn't have to.

@frugby said in England Vs All Blacks:

What to make of that. Some will point to Robertson and his coaching staff, but player for player we just aren’t that good. Our basic skills were poor all night, and have been all year. You can’t really blame the coaches for that.

We bemoaned Rieko last year, but his replacement is no better. We bemoaned Beauden, but McKenzie is hardly any better. Without Roigard we are absolutely fucked at the moment.

Injuries have forced us to try different players - and we have - and lone behold they aren’t better than those in front of them.

I don’t think Razor should be sacked, perhaps one or two of his assistants should be, but if we turn up to South Africa with these same players, we will lose 4-0, and I think that would be terminal.

If you sack one or 2 of his assistants that will be 4 assistants gone in 2 years.

Deck Chairs titanic etc.

The buck stops with him. HE knew he was getting the job for ages in advance.

He had loads of time to prep.

Flush the Razor dunny and move on. He is a beaten docket.

Lineout kept us in for 70 minutes.

Sack Scott Robertson

@Bones said in England Vs All Blacks:

Well done England, you didn't do much but you didn't have to.

Credit to Steve Borthwick. Bringing back George Ford was a brave call, but it was rewarded today.

A new coach won’t fix our lack of basic skills.

@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:

Taylor is the only player from the older generation that is worth his salt. BB, Savea, ALB, Scott Barrett all need to go. Jordie can stay for now.

It’s been 10 years of the same old shit. Zero composure

Beauden Barrett was never composed, even at his peak. Once the juice in his legs went he should have been ushered off to Japan to earn yen for Hannah and co.

5 fucking years ago.