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@upthelanders said in England Vs All Blacks:
Any rumours for the team this week?
Ardie starting at 12 is what I've heard
@MN5 said in England Vs All Blacks:
@upthelanders said in England Vs All Blacks:
Any rumours for the team this week?
Ardie starting at 12 is what I've heard
Too scared of a lineout against Emma.
@Bones said in England Vs All Blacks:
@MN5 said in England Vs All Blacks:
@upthelanders said in England Vs All Blacks:
Any rumours for the team this week?
Ardie starting at 12 is what I've heard
Too scared of a lineout against Emma.
@MN5 said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Bones said in England Vs All Blacks:
@MN5 said in England Vs All Blacks:
@upthelanders said in England Vs All Blacks:
Any rumours for the team this week?
Ardie starting at 12 is what I've heard
Too scared of a lineout against Emma.
It's good that you read the thread before posting.
@Bovidae said in England Vs All Blacks:
Rieko is definitely on the outer.
He’ll play against Wales for sure.
@KiwiMurph Says more about them not trusting LF or RI as 12 cover. They should have been bold and gone with a 6:2 split too.
Think this team is fairly telling. Sititi to the bench says they are wanting to match England for impact. ALB offers no punch, tend to agree on a 6-2 split, but given the injuries, not sure I'd have Kirifi.
@KiwiMurph said in England Vs All Blacks:
ALB sucks as a bench option
Gets a bench spot
Make it make sense....
I guess we will play the final quarter with 14 men again.... 
@Bovidae said in England Vs All Blacks:
Rieko is definitely on the outer.
Rieko would be soooo much better than ALB. Fucken old timers day at Twickenham
@Bovidae said in England Vs All Blacks:
@KiwiMurph Says more about them not trusting LF or RI as 12 cover. They should have been bold and gone with a 6:2 split too.
I dont understand that they trust Leicester at 13 but not at 12. I would like to see him more at 12 if anything.
@Bovidae said in England Vs All Blacks:
@canefan The Barrett's have a history of YCs at Twickenham.
13 men then
@canefan said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Bovidae said in England Vs All Blacks:
Rieko is definitely on the outer.
Rieko would be soooo much better than ALB. Fucken old timers day at Twickenham
Dynamic wing or centre vs pedestrian centre…..make it make sense razor…..
A big opportunity for Parker. I’m glad they picked him to start. I much prefer Sititi in the role he has played off the bench.
Proctor I’m a little less sold on but he did a couple of good things when he came on last weekend.
ALB will be as fresh as fresh can be. If only TNT were fit.
@MN5 said in England Vs All Blacks:
@canefan said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Bovidae said in England Vs All Blacks:
Rieko is definitely on the outer.
Rieko would be soooo much better than ALB. Fucken old timers day at Twickenham
Dynamic wing or centre vs pedestrian centre…..make it make sense razor…..
@MN5 said in England Vs All Blacks:
@canefan said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Bovidae said in England Vs All Blacks:
Rieko is definitely on the outer.
Rieko would be soooo much better than ALB. Fucken old timers day at Twickenham
Dynamic wing or centre vs pedestrian centre…..make it make sense razor…..
Been a long while since I heard someone describe Rieko Ioane as dynamic
@frugby said in England Vs All Blacks:
@MN5 said in England Vs All Blacks:
@canefan said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Bovidae said in England Vs All Blacks:
Rieko is definitely on the outer.
Rieko would be soooo much better than ALB. Fucken old timers day at Twickenham
Dynamic wing or centre vs pedestrian centre…..make it make sense razor…..
Been a long while since I heard someone describe Rieko Ioane as dynamic
He's a better MF than ALB, but dynamic winger is definitely a stretch
@MN5 said in England Vs All Blacks:
6, 13 and 22 are a big let down
Yeah agree very disappointing the team looks weaker with those 3 inclusions.
I hope Parker proves me wrong and plays a blinder to win we need him too or we could get dominated in the LFs.
I would’ve started Ioane on the left wing not because of any renewed dynamism, but because he’s solid and we have our first choice out. But the main reason is because I would’ve like to have seen QT and LF get another start together in the midfield. Whilst there were a few issues last week with both showing a desire to tuck it up the jumper rather than pass, both are actually capable of distributing and may have been better for the run.
Anton being selected in our national team ruffles my feathers, two of his most recent games of rugby he got bullied by the Stags 12 Peni & under the roof in Dunedin against otago he looked like he was running in mud, it sounds like I have an agenda sure but I just don't think he's as good as he was 5 even 2 years ago
@ACT-Crusader said in England Vs All Blacks:
I would’ve started Ioane on the left wing not because of any renewed dynamism, but because he’s solid and we have our first choice out. But the main reason is because I would’ve like to have seen QT and LF get another start together in the midfield. Whilst there were a few issues last week with both showing a desire to tuck it up the jumper rather than pass, both are actually capable of distributing and may have been better for the run.
Think you can probably get the same out of Leicester on the wing on attack (or at least 75 per cent the same) without the defensive issues we saw in the midfield last week.
Also think that while there are still a few issues with the 23 from an external POV, the current team is quite refreshingly different from the side that ran out against England last year:
Williams, Taylor, Lomax, Barrett, Vaa'i, Sititi, Cane, Savea, Ratima, Barrett, Clarke, Barrett, Ioane, Tele'a, Jordan.
Injury's again proven a great selector this year but Razor is definitely building depth, one way or another.
@Bovidae said in England Vs All Blacks:
Rieko is definitely on the outer.
Seriously?
Really disappointed.
Fan of ALB but that's really meh.
@booboo said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Bovidae said in England Vs All Blacks:
Rieko is definitely on the outer.
Seriously?
Really disappointed.
Fan of ALB but that's really meh.
Surely not a fan of ALB v2025?
@frugby said in England Vs All Blacks:
@MN5 said in England Vs All Blacks:
@canefan said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Bovidae said in England Vs All Blacks:
Rieko is definitely on the outer.
Rieko would be soooo much better than ALB. Fucken old timers day at Twickenham
Dynamic wing or centre vs pedestrian centre…..make it make sense razor…..
Been a long while since I heard someone describe Rieko Ioane as dynamic
I do reckon he looked sharp in the Perth Bled off the bench. I really don't buy Proctor and ALB in front of him.
For transparency, am big fan of ALB, not of Proctor.
@canefan said in England Vs All Blacks:
@booboo said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Bovidae said in England Vs All Blacks:
Rieko is definitely on the outer.
Seriously?
Really disappointed.
Fan of ALB but that's really meh.
Surely not a fan of ALB v2025?
Not averse. Think the vibe about him is OTT.
But I really do I reall do feel there are better options.
Clever selection by Razor. The England coaches will be studying Proctor’s 8 Tests to see what threat he poses, therefore wasting their entire week
@Bovidae said in England Vs All Blacks:
@canefan The Barrett's have a history of YCs at Twickenham.
I think ALB has the most recent history of YCs there…