@ACT-Crusader said in Italy vs Springboks:

Careless entry into the ruck results in an elbow to the face but everyone thinks it’s a “rugby play”. So carry on.

Am I behind or are you referring to the ruck clearout? Looked like a shoulder to me, but can't see a heck of a lot wrong.

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

Pretty unfair, there's no way Mostert was expecting to have to make a tackle there. Just bracing himself for impact after being surprised by a ball carrier changing direction.

I presume you’re taking the piss

Nah man, why would you be expecting a player to use footwork? Not only that, you're advancing at a player that could well be carrying the ball when you meet, so there's no way you'd even think you might have to tackle them. Outrageous.

I am genuinely flummoxed

Oh, so that reasoning doesn't work now? I'm facetiously flummoxed. There was hardly even any force, Mostert went just as far back as Garbisi, you can see it in his feet.

Skinstad thinks the same as you

Led with shoulder, other arm tucked, straight to chin

If that’s not a RC I honestly don’t know what the fuck is

Ok now I'm genuinely flummoxed. If only that was the case when teams did it against black. Consistency, right?

That’s what I started with

We can’t go backwards only forwards

Consistency two weeks in a row

It’s a start

No, I was taking the piss, whereas unless you are, you've completely 180'd.

Italy are playing like numpties.

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

Italy are playing like numpties.

And they were playing so well in the first 40 minutes.

Geez he’s good

Italy back.

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

Pretty unfair, there's no way Mostert was expecting to have to make a tackle there. Just bracing himself for impact after being surprised by a ball carrier changing direction.

I presume you’re taking the piss

Nah man, why would you be expecting a player to use footwork? Not only that, you're advancing at a player that could well be carrying the ball when you meet, so there's no way you'd even think you might have to tackle them. Outrageous.

I am genuinely flummoxed

Oh, so that reasoning doesn't work now? I'm facetiously flummoxed. There was hardly even any force, Mostert went just as far back as Garbisi, you can see it in his feet.

Skinstad thinks the same as you

Led with shoulder, other arm tucked, straight to chin

If that’s not a RC I honestly don’t know what the fuck is

Ok now I'm genuinely flummoxed. If only that was the case when teams did it against black. Consistency, right?

That’s what I started with

We can’t go backwards only forwards

Consistency two weeks in a row

It’s a start

No, I was taking the piss, whereas unless you are, you've completely 180'd.

Finally

No, not taking the piss

Going with what the refs are seeing and ruling on

Fucking scorcher!

Italy making very hard work of this

Sheesh Italy lucky there.

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

Pretty unfair, there's no way Mostert was expecting to have to make a tackle there. Just bracing himself for impact after being surprised by a ball carrier changing direction.

I presume you’re taking the piss

Nah man, why would you be expecting a player to use footwork? Not only that, you're advancing at a player that could well be carrying the ball when you meet, so there's no way you'd even think you might have to tackle them. Outrageous.

I am genuinely flummoxed

Oh, so that reasoning doesn't work now? I'm facetiously flummoxed. There was hardly even any force, Mostert went just as far back as Garbisi, you can see it in his feet.

Skinstad thinks the same as you

Led with shoulder, other arm tucked, straight to chin

If that’s not a RC I honestly don’t know what the fuck is

Ok now I'm genuinely flummoxed. If only that was the case when teams did it against black. Consistency, right?

That’s what I started with

We can’t go backwards only forwards

Consistency two weeks in a row

It’s a start

No, I was taking the piss, whereas unless you are, you've completely 180'd.

Finally

No, not taking the piss

Going with what the refs are seeing and ruling on

I think you should change your handle to mikethestarmer

Now back to 15 v 14.

Knock on surely

@ACT-Crusader said in Italy vs Springboks:

Knock on surely

Yeah bizarre it wasn't.

Snyman lost that cold as he hit the ground.

But an attacking lineout for Italy.

A terrible exit by Italy.

Fucks sake Italy. Like Argentina a decade or two ago.

Jaw dropping feet by Moodie though.

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

Pretty unfair, there's no way Mostert was expecting to have to make a tackle there. Just bracing himself for impact after being surprised by a ball carrier changing direction.

I presume you’re taking the piss

Nah man, why would you be expecting a player to use footwork? Not only that, you're advancing at a player that could well be carrying the ball when you meet, so there's no way you'd even think you might have to tackle them. Outrageous.

I am genuinely flummoxed

Oh, so that reasoning doesn't work now? I'm facetiously flummoxed. There was hardly even any force, Mostert went just as far back as Garbisi, you can see it in his feet.

Skinstad thinks the same as you

Led with shoulder, other arm tucked, straight to chin

If that’s not a RC I honestly don’t know what the fuck is

Ok now I'm genuinely flummoxed. If only that was the case when teams did it against black. Consistency, right?

That’s what I started with

We can’t go backwards only forwards

Consistency two weeks in a row

It’s a start

No, I was taking the piss, whereas unless you are, you've completely 180'd.

Finally

No, not taking the piss

Going with what the refs are seeing and ruling on

I think you should change your handle to mikethestarmer

Ha ha

More like Mike the Accepter

If that’s what they’re ruling, go with it

And no harping back even though it’s our national instrument

Italy in the same foot shooting club as Wales

Pathetic

SA are relentless fair play

Italy were destined to lose when they went for 3 points as SA were reduced to 13. You have to score tries and put scoreboard pressure on the Boks. That was their chance. They choked.

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

Pretty unfair, there's no way Mostert was expecting to have to make a tackle there. Just bracing himself for impact after being surprised by a ball carrier changing direction.

I presume you’re taking the piss

Nah man, why would you be expecting a player to use footwork? Not only that, you're advancing at a player that could well be carrying the ball when you meet, so there's no way you'd even think you might have to tackle them. Outrageous.

I am genuinely flummoxed

Oh, so that reasoning doesn't work now? I'm facetiously flummoxed. There was hardly even any force, Mostert went just as far back as Garbisi, you can see it in his feet.

Skinstad thinks the same as you

Led with shoulder, other arm tucked, straight to chin

If that’s not a RC I honestly don’t know what the fuck is

Ok now I'm genuinely flummoxed. If only that was the case when teams did it against black. Consistency, right?

That’s what I started with

We can’t go backwards only forwards

Consistency two weeks in a row

It’s a start

No, I was taking the piss, whereas unless you are, you've completely 180'd.

Finally

No, not taking the piss

Going with what the refs are seeing and ruling on

I think you should change your handle to mikethestarmer

Ha ha

More like Mike the Accepter

If that’s what they’re ruling, go with it

And no harping back even though it’s our national instrument

Oh to be fair, if we ignore the AB games, you have been consistent. It's a quality troll.

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@cgrant said in Italy vs Springboks:

Rassie doesn't trust his "B" props. By the 25th minute, both Steenkamp and Louw have been called to replace the starters. I don't know if Louw has 60 minutes in his legs.

I doubt that's the case - he just knows he can bring them back on later when there's an "injury".

Rassie is clever and works within the laws.

It isn’t his fault the laws encourage abuse of subs. It is like watching rolling subs in league at times.

Italy have played the way the Boks would have wanted them to. Kept it narrow, kicked possession and played attritional rugby. Meat and drink for the Boks.

@stodders said in Italy vs Springboks:

Italy have played the way the Boks would have wanted them to. Kept it narrow, kicked possession and played attritional rugby. Meat and drink for the Boks.

Yeah, no endeavour, no attacking rugby, despite having such electric outsides.

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Bones said in Italy vs Springboks:

Pretty unfair, there's no way Mostert was expecting to have to make a tackle there. Just bracing himself for impact after being surprised by a ball carrier changing direction.

I presume you’re taking the piss

Nah man, why would you be expecting a player to use footwork? Not only that, you're advancing at a player that could well be carrying the ball when you meet, so there's no way you'd even think you might have to tackle them. Outrageous.

I am genuinely flummoxed

Oh, so that reasoning doesn't work now? I'm facetiously flummoxed. There was hardly even any force, Mostert went just as far back as Garbisi, you can see it in his feet.

Skinstad thinks the same as you

Led with shoulder, other arm tucked, straight to chin

If that’s not a RC I honestly don’t know what the fuck is

Ok now I'm genuinely flummoxed. If only that was the case when teams did it against black. Consistency, right?

That’s what I started with

We can’t go backwards only forwards

Consistency two weeks in a row

It’s a start

No, I was taking the piss, whereas unless you are, you've completely 180'd.

Finally

No, not taking the piss

Going with what the refs are seeing and ruling on

I think you should change your handle to mikethestarmer

Ha ha

More like Mike the Accepter

If that’s what they’re ruling, go with it

And no harping back even though it’s our national instrument

Oh to be fair, if we ignore the AB games, you have been consistent. It's a quality troll.

Too many bad choices by Italy. Easy goal kicks missed did not allow them to put more pressure on SA. Willemsee, Smith and Moody were outstanding. A class above the rest.

Fuck that's cheeky by Capuozo. His flanker might want a word.

Italy are a third rate team. What a disappointing performance after the red. Hats off to SA though, they sure know how to win.

@MiketheSnow nice try.

Italy were excellent for 35 minutes, good for another twenty odd and then just ran out of tests quality players. Hats off to their staff and players. They are going to cause lots of teams trouble if they keep developing like they have since we played in the summer.

Mostert and Van Staaden with two of the dumbest acts we’ve seen since Doc R took over. Abject. The team fines session should be hilariously merciless.

Every other bok was very good to outstanding. Especially because the scrum reffing was almost worse than Mostert and van Staaden. Thankfully the Rugby Gods didn’t stand for it so Garbisi’s numbers took a bit of a hit.

Ok. I will say it.
Bullshit straight red against Mostert.
Well done to the Boks C-team despite that.

@Billy-Webb said in Italy vs Springboks:

Ok. I will say it.
Bullshit straight red against Mostert.
Well done to the Boks C-team despite that.

Really naive play by mostert. It’s a bullshit red but in the current climate of the game he was dumb.

@W32 said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Billy-Webb said in Italy vs Springboks:

Ok. I will say it.
Bullshit straight red against Mostert.
Well done to the Boks C-team despite that.

Really naive play by mostert. It’s a bullshit red but in the current climate of the game he was dumb.

Franco is tackling. No malice, and his technique is decent.
Players in possession move shape when another tackles them. Changes timing for the 2nd guy lining them up.
Nothing naïve from Mostert. Just piss-poor appreciation of the actual game by the officials who then rely on frame-by-frame stills.

@Billy-Webb said in Italy vs Springboks:

@W32 said in Italy vs Springboks:

@Billy-Webb said in Italy vs Springboks:

Ok. I will say it.
Bullshit straight red against Mostert.
Well done to the Boks C-team despite that.

Really naive play by mostert. It’s a bullshit red but in the current climate of the game he was dumb.

Franco is tackling. No malice, and his technique is decent.
Players in possession move shape when another tackles them. Changes timing for the 2nd guy lining them up.
Nothing naïve from Mostert. Just piss-poor appreciation of the actual game by the officials who then rely on frame-by-frame stills.

He didn’t wrap. Simple - he needs to

So now that we know that initial contact was with the upper chest, are we going to see Mostert banned anyway?

@saguy said in Italy vs Springboks:

So now that we know that initial contact was with the upper chest, are we going to see Mostert banned anyway?

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Is that still on the down or the up?

@MiketheSnow That's the initial contact

@MiketheSnow said in Italy vs Springboks:

@saguy said in Italy vs Springboks:

So now that we know that initial contact was with the upper chest, are we going to see Mostert banned anyway?

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Is that still on the down or the up?

Based on photo, nothing to see.