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@reprobate said in Wales v All Blacks:
Jesus, we are a real mess aren't we?
What are we hoping to achieve with that selection? It's just 'make sure everyone gets a go' day in what is supposed to be a high performance environment, when we have not made the progress we need to and have a heap of unanswered questions.
Another wasted opportunity
@Number-10 said in Wales v All Blacks:
Kirifi, ALB, Reece, Christie. It's like a fucking nightmare.
The only bright aspect is no Savea wasting a position on the field and Damien has to make a turd sandwich palatable.
@hikastags said in Wales v All Blacks:
Not sure i've seen anything from Dyer that justifies him being an All Black.
Who is your alternative?
I would've had Marcel Renata ahead of Mafileo. Renata can also play both sides which is why Mafileo was picked.
I know he's 31 so on the older side, but props age like wine these days.
So both these dude's in front of Dyer? Cool. Not sure I can add any value to that.
But when we're down to numbers 4, 5, and 6 in any position it's getting somewhat subjective.
Appreciate your response. But what have you seen in Renata and Mafileo that justifirs them as All Balcks? (Genuine if somewhat smart arse question.)
@KiwiMurph said in Wales v All Blacks:
A missed opportunity if you dont include Tangitau (which I dont expect them to). A perfect chance to debut him.
yes - it's a pretty dick move by Razor to not give him a debut considering he missed the final All Black XV game against Uruguay to train with them, I mean we've really got nothing left to lose - the England test was all that mattered and Wales are essentially a tier 2 nation at this point...
@antipodean said in Wales v All Blacks:
@Number-10 said in Wales v All Blacks:
Kirifi, ALB, Reece, Christie. It's like a fucking nightmare.
The only bright aspect is no Savea wasting a position on the field and Damien has to make a turd sandwich palatable.
8/9/10/12 are Chiefs. Will be interesting to see how it goes 
@booboo said in Wales v All Blacks:
@Number-10 said in Wales v All Blacks:
Nit a fan of Sevu ... but otherwise quite happy with that.
Oh yeah ... and Kirifi ...
@stodders said in Wales v All Blacks:
Ardie Savea and Beauden Barrett aren’t playing. Now we get to see how things go without them.
Except we don't, because everything else has changed too.
@reprobate said in Wales v All Blacks:
@stodders said in Wales v All Blacks:
Ardie Savea and Beauden Barrett aren’t playing. Now we get to see how things go without them.
Except we don't, because everything else has changed too.
Page out of Fozzie's playbook. Empty the bench and learn zero
@sparky said in Wales v All Blacks:
@Number-10 said in Wales v All Blacks:
Worst ever All Blacks test team.
I've seen worse
when was the most recent year we didn't cap anyone on a end of year tour? I know last year Love debuted against Japan and 2022 Telea debuted against Scotland but anything beyond that my mind is fuzzy
@booboo said in Wales v All Blacks:
@sparky said in Wales v All Blacks:
@Number-10 said in Wales v All Blacks:
Worst ever All Blacks test team.
I've seen worse
In the context of the tour and 2025 season, players we needed to develop/cut, it's pretty bad.
It says something of our newly-found ability at times to simply give up, that I'm pleased Christie is on the 23.....
@canefan said in Wales v All Blacks:
@reprobate said in Wales v All Blacks:
@stodders said in Wales v All Blacks:
Ardie Savea and Beauden Barrett aren’t playing. Now we get to see how things go without them.
Except we don't, because everything else has changed too.
Page out of Fozzie's playbook. Empty the bench and learn zero
Like Foster, he now has his back against the wall every bloody game.
And yet he's had 2 seasons to avoid being in this position
@Victor-Meldrew said in Wales v All Blacks:
@canefan said in Wales v All Blacks:
@reprobate said in Wales v All Blacks:
@stodders said in Wales v All Blacks:
Ardie Savea and Beauden Barrett aren’t playing. Now we get to see how things go without them.
Except we don't, because everything else has changed too.
Page out of Fozzie's playbook. Empty the bench and learn zero
Like Foster, he now has his back against the wall every bloody game.
And yet he's had 2 seasons to avoid being in this position
He had a shit ton of goodwill when he came in, whereas Foster took over on the back foot from the go. Just wasted all that capital