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MiketheSnow

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@akan004 said in Wales v All Blacks:

Perfect opportunity to see what Preston or Fakatava could do but no, the coward goes with the safe option again

Because he's dug himself into a hole. A few losses would have been accepted if he tried new stuff and players but he wasted 2 years learning the ropes - with the "learning bit is debatable.

Now every win is crucial and job survival is the name of the game

sparky

Will Wales' 72 year wait for their 4th victory over the All Blacks end today?

Victor Meldrew

@MN5 said in Wales v All Blacks:

@Darren said in Wales v All Blacks:

@sparky said in Wales v All Blacks:

@SammyC Wales' best chance on Saturday is the target Ratima, ALB and Kirifi and hope all three shit the bed.

I think Kirifi will do fine, he is not the answer at 7, but he will put in the work.
ALB - who knows, probably just get a card and be off the field anyway.

ALB just needs a bit more luck with selections next year to bring up 100 richly deserved AB caps.

He's been loyal and a great servant - but should have been quietly advised to retire from Test rugby last year with his reputation intact.

sparky

Wales 36/1 with Betfair.......

sparky

The handicap is the All Blacks by 28 points which feels generous.

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@pakman said in Wales v All Blacks:

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"“It’s challenging when you’ve got a world-class fullback like Will Jordan, and the balance of selection when you’re going for a Grand Slam. "

Bugger me. Will J is a world-class wing. He's a severely limited 15.

Bones

@Victor-Meldrew said in Wales v All Blacks:

@pakman said in Wales v All Blacks:

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From the article.

"“It’s challenging when you’ve got a world-class fullback like Will Jordan, and the balance of selection when you’re going for a Grand Slam. "

Bugger me. Will J is a world-class wing. He's a severely limited 15.

That stance was a lot less popular probably even up until halfway through this year. At the start of the year you would have been in a very small minority if you said that.

sparky

@Bones WJ is a right wing. And a world class one. Post 2027, I think he should shift to Centre. He is an emergency Test Fullback at best.

@Victor-Meldrew said in Wales v All Blacks:

@pakman said in Wales v All Blacks:

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From the article.

"“It’s challenging when you’ve got a world-class fullback like Will Jordan, and the balance of selection when you’re going for a Grand Slam. "

Bugger me. Will J is a world-class wing. He's a severely limited 15.

It's challenging to not select Love when you have several wing injuries and a disfunctional backline with a 10 playing really badly. People underestimate how hard it is to get your head so far up your own arse that you can't see those problems after 2 whole years, and can thereby avoid considering putting Jordan on the wing and McKenzie at 10 - which would mean a totally unnecessary risk of having to play a guy who is older than Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu. Look what a disaster that's been for poor old Rassie.

Bones

@sparky said in Wales v All Blacks:

WJ is a right wing. And a world class one.

If he actually shows that in big games and pressure moments, I'm on board. RWC final begs to differ.

@sparky he is too lazy to be a good centre

sparky

@Bones A bit harsh. He wasn't the only back to go missing on that night in Paris.

I haven't watched that one back but I thought the big problem was Richie Mo'unga and Jordie Barrett misfiring under big pressure from the Saffa loose forwards.

His try-scoring record in Tests on the Right Wing is not bad.

Bones

@pourfasse said in Wales v All Blacks:

@sparky he is too lazy to be a good centre

His play for the crusaders this year was a massive improvement, he's since gone backwards at a fast rate. There is hope, but maybe McCaw should have singled out him rather than Parker.

Bones

@sparky got another big pressure game where he's stood out as world class and not just chimed in with one sublime run?

sparky

@Bones He defended damn well against Ireland in the RWC Quarter Final.

And those sublime runs are a key point of Right Wing play.

Victor Meldrew

@Bones said in Wales v All Blacks:

@sparky said in Wales v All Blacks:

WJ is a right wing. And a world class one.

If he actually shows that in big games and pressure moments, I'm on board. RWC final begs to differ.

You could argue that we wouldn't have been in that final without WJ's efforts against Ireland.

Bones

@Victor-Meldrew said in Wales v All Blacks:

@Bones said in Wales v All Blacks:

@sparky said in Wales v All Blacks:

WJ is a right wing. And a world class one.

If he actually shows that in big games and pressure moments, I'm on board. RWC final begs to differ.

You could argue that we wouldn't have been in that final without WJ's efforts against Ireland.

Anyone else get a free pass for shitting the bed in the final because they did their job in the quarter? Did Frizzel go ok?

sparky

@Bones Given the terrible state the All Blacks are in at the moment, I'd settle for a team that loses the World Cup Final by one point after a controversial refereeing performance.

We are nowhere near that quality now.

Bones

@sparky said in Wales v All Blacks:

@Bones Given the terrible state the All Blacks are in at the moment, I'd settle for a team that loses the World Cup Final by one point after a controversial refereeing performance.

We are nowhere near that quality now.

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