@Jet said in England v Wales:
@Jet said in England v Wales:
@Jet said in England v Wales:
@Bones said in England v Wales:
@Jet said in England v Wales:
This sport has gone to the dogs honestly.
Apart from Louis Rees-Zammit sounding like a show dog's name, can you further clarify?
Cards Cards Cards
Oh another card.
oh another card.
Go watch football fella
@Jet said in England v Wales:
1/6th of the players sent from the field today.
Go watch football fella
@Bones said in England v Wales:
@Jet said in England v Wales:
1/6th of the players sent from the field today.
Go watch football fella
I'll watch whatever I want thanks.
England's bench not really having the predicted impact.
Mediocre second half from them after the fireworks before the break.
@Jet said in England v Wales:
@Bones said in England v Wales:
@Jet said in England v Wales:
1/6th of the players sent from the field today.
Go watch football fella
I'll watch whatever I want thanks.
Go watch football fella
Better second half from Wales
Considering how many cards we’ve had and despite the points differential this is a better result than our last meeting
So progress 
@MiketheSnow said in England v Wales:
England have looked great and poor
Alex Mitchell is so important to them. They've had the handbrake on a bit since he went off.
England 8-9-10 axis is world class, their lineout is second to none and they have pace to burn out wide these days.
But some of their players make strange decisions around the park.
Wales showed character and resilience in the second half.
But in terms of physicality, they are way off Tier One Test standard. They might need to find a few Saffas with Welsh grannies.
@MiketheSnow said in England v Wales:
Concede less than 76
Score more than 0Progress
Progress then Mike.
Only just 
@sparky said in England v Wales:
Wales showed character and resilience in the second half.
But in terms of physicality, they are way off Tier One Test standard. They might need to find a few Saffas with Welsh grannies.
We did
Plumtree
Penalty and YC magnet
@sparky said in England v Wales:
England 8-9-10 axis is world class, their lineout is second to none and they have pace to burn out wide these days.
But some of their players make strange decisions around the park.
I can see them losing to Ireland and France. Their current buoyancy is based on dismantling a team that was already in pieces and I'll always come back to one thing.
Borthwick is just a sane Robertson.
@MiketheSnow what's the point in us having a playmaker at 12 when we're rarely ever on the front foot?
We should be going back to basics and put someone like Harlequins centre Bryn Bradley at 12 & tell him to run down the 10/12 channel all day. At least then we may get some go forward.
That must have been awful for a Wales supporter. Just hope they show some improvement, any improvement would do, this year
@Victor-Meldrew said in England v Wales:
That must have been awful for a Wales supporter. Just hope they show some improvement, any improvement would do, this year
3rd Vs 2nd.
Let's not get carried away.
@Victor-Meldrew said in England v Wales:
That must have been awful for a Wales supporter. Just hope they show some improvement, any improvement would do, this year
Yep, I feel for Welsh supporters to Victor. Much as I cheering for them, they really seem to be missing so much. At no stage of test did they look to be doing anything but hanging on.
It even kind of showed with the crowd, there seemed quite large area of empty seats, whether it from Welsh not bothering to travel from Cardiff, just not something I noticed at 6Ns game before .
@pooler-fan said in England v Wales:
@MiketheSnow what's the point in us having a playmaker at 12 when we're rarely ever on the front foot?
We should be going back to basics and put someone like Harlequins centre Bryn Bradley at 12 & tell him to run down the 10/12 channel all day. At least then we may get some go forward.
Hawkins can do both
@MiketheSnow he can but sometimes thinks tackling is optional.
@pooler-fan said in England v Wales:
@sparky we need to go back to basics somewhat I think. Decisions have been made to not select someone like Ross Moriarty for instance who thrives on smashing people from the 6 jersey. He's only 31, if he's still your best option pick him. The RWC is only what, 18 months away.
Yep
Moriarty, Mann, Wainwright
Deaves
If Reffell is fit, get him in
@MiketheSnow a Moriarty/Reffell/Wainwright backrow would be a huge improvement on what was selected today.
What to say for Wales? Well, they showed some real spirit at times and did some decent goal line defence but lack physicality in most areas of the field. That seems weird to me as they do have some physical, committed guys but rarely seem to pick them. Back row a case in point. I really feel sorry for guys like Lake and Wainwright, who must think what the fuck am I doing here in this shit show?
In regards to England, I’m not sure how positive we should be. Sure we won by a lot but we made hard work of it at times. Gave away too much ball with non-contestable kicks and bad decisions. Centres still a worry, as is full back and in this game at least, use of the bench. Pollock should have had at least 35 minutes, the game was crying out for his energy. Spencer is not a replacement 9. By all means change the game and start him, but he is no impact player. As for M Smith, same as ollock really. Needed more time and Steward was not firing at all.
Could not understand Ford getting MOM, thought his game management and kicking was way below his normal standards.
