That's not a reason to deny a try - that happens every ruck.
@jimmyb said in Crusaders Vs Waratahs:
@Bones said in Crusaders Vs Waratahs:
Also just realised he doesn't have his legs strapped for the lineout.
And he smashes over for a try
Marshall “overwhelming success”. Fuck me
Although I agree this rhetoric is slightly OTT, I'm going to go against the grain and think he's played really well.
The thing is that once this was was called, he was always going to be watched like a hawk with folks only looking for actions for confirm their pre conceived bias.
Has he been an amazing 7? No. Has he been a decent enough 7 to play there at Super Rugby level? Definitely. He's been heavily involved, I think Marshall said he''s had 6 more carries than the next best player. Thus, he's unquestionably been much more involved than he would have been at 12. He's always been a strong runner, with huge drive, so playing at 7 does give him more time to get his hands on the ball & he's literally grabbed it with both hands.
Overall, he's been brilliant, all over the field, playing really well.. Yes, some 7 jobs have been lacking, but what would you expect on his debut in this position from the backs? I saw a note against the scrum before, I mean come on ... the Cantab scrum has been dominant & thats hardly the 7's job.
I'd give him 8/10 as a player and perhaps 5/10 as a 7.
Far from shit.
@antipodean said in Crusaders Vs Waratahs:
That's not a reason to deny a try - that happens every ruck.
It's a reason to deny Havili a try
Considering both teams up and down form this year - a good game to open a good stadium
Good shit
Crusaders weren’t great but you still wouldn’t want to be the Chiefs or Hurricanes and play them in the quarters or semis
@jimmyb said in Crusaders Vs Waratahs:
Crusaders weren’t great but you still wouldn’t want to be the Chiefs or Hurricanes and play them in the quarters or semis
Hurricanes will want a bye in the semis wont they?
@Bones said in Crusaders Vs Waratahs:
@MajorPom I mean if we're looking for a replacement for Savea, he's doing a good debut job.
I was thinking of dropping a "Savea-like" comment in there, but then thought there's enough posted about him on this board already!
You aren't wrong, honestly.
@MajorPom said in Crusaders Vs Waratahs:
@Bones said in Crusaders Vs Waratahs:
@MajorPom I mean if we're looking for a replacement for Savea, he's doing a good debut job.
I was thinking of dropping a "Savea-like" comment in there, but then thought there's enough posted about him on this board already!
You aren't wrong, honestly.
Needs more screaming after doing something good.
Was umming and ahhing over whether to keep Harvey in my team or take Jorgensen. Kept Harvey.. to all the other Ferners doing Fantasy... suckers... 
@majorpom I agree, I'm not sure I get the Leicester hate, I don't hold Razors shenanigans against him and I'm happy to see him back. He has one of the most powerful running games in the world, if we can work out how to use that while minimising his weaknesses he can be a real weapon. Getting him closer in is a good idea, whether that be at 12 or in the loose. Could become one hell of a weapon on the bench if he can cover the loose, midfield and wing with that running game.
@Bones said in Crusaders Vs Waratahs:
@MajorPom I mean if we're looking for a replacement for Savea, he's doing a good debut job.
That is actually a good comparison. He had a decent game running around doing lots of stuff, but not really doing a 7’s job. More of a roaming 12/13. Funny that.
Still a weird call to make when they had Lee on the bench who has looked decent, even if he did give away a marginal penalty for the Havili non try.
Yeah - I thought Leicester went well - influential.
Though Dom Gardiner had a really good game as well.
Newell, Shalfoon, Kemara and McLeod the others who caught my eye.
Kemara's goal-kicking last year was so awful it kind of blinded me to his other merits. Goal-kicking is much improved and he's got some game in general play.
Generally liked the resolve shown - plenty of determination not to lose this first game in the new house.









