@chimoaus said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

Is there really any advantage in naming the team late Thursday? I mean SA name theirs on what Tuesday?

I imagine there's a lot more benefit to the team than naming early. Much less disruption should there need to be changes, etc.

Is there really any advantage to complaining about it?

@Bones Quite a unique thing with rugby too.

Likes of Football, Cricket and Basketball it is basically right before start time.

The whole team naming Tuesday in the NRL is a bunch of faff, because half the teams change by kickoff anyway, and the casual fan struggles to keep up with that anyway.

Is the Thursday team naming driven by the New Zealand media cycle?

@Landers92 said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Frank said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

Landers mate.
Where's the team?

I had it locked and ready to go but the Jordie injury has thrown a spanner in the works.

I’ll post what it was going to be anyway, I’m sure it will spark some discussion.

9. Roigard
10. Love
11. Moorby
12. J. Barrett
13. Tupaea
14. Jordan
15. Dmac

Bench
21. Ratima
22. ALB
23. Clarke

All subject to change now due to the JB injury obviously.

Strong backline. Harkin at 15 and Hotham off the bench and that's our RWC backline for me.

@sparky Ideally Pledger off the bench.

@ShaquilleOatmeal 100% if he can get fit. Caleb Tangitau might get there to if he recovers fully.

If we can keep Fehi he’ll be in the mix as well. Just need to get him on the field this year.

I am absolutely in favour of Moorby starting this week - I also don’t really see him as anything other than a stop gap.

But if he is a stop gap who wins us a Boks Tour then he will go down in ABs folklore

@george33 said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

Jordie all good to start.

Sounds like they will give him every chance to play but could be a game time decision.

@Canes4life said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Bones said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Canes4life said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

Someone ban the bloke

Isn't the forum public?

I think there's largely a collective understanding that some information shared on the Fern is shared in confidence. The Myth page on FB has a large following and whoevers leaking information to that page is going against what @landers92 has asked.

Dick move in my view and I'm not suprised @landers92 is now reluctant to share that sort of information going forward.

Why? If the team isn't supposed to be leaked and whichever old mates on here are leaking it then that's on them isn't it?

There's no cone of silence in this place.

I don't say stuff from AB tours in the late 90s if I don't think it's for public knowledge.

@Nepia said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Canes4life said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Bones said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Canes4life said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

Someone ban the bloke

Isn't the forum public?

I think there's largely a collective understanding that some information shared on the Fern is shared in confidence. The Myth page on FB has a large following and whoevers leaking information to that page is going against what @landers92 has asked.

Dick move in my view and I'm not suprised @landers92 is now reluctant to share that sort of information going forward.

Why? If the team isn't supposed to be leaked and whichever old mates on here are leaking it then that's on them isn't it?

There's no cone of silence in this place.

I don't say stuff from AB tours in the late 90s if I don't think it's for public knowledge.

Because it means we don’t get it on here if the idiot keeps leaking it to FB. So whoever is doing it is ruining it for the rest of us.

@Canes4life said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Nepia said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Canes4life said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Bones said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Canes4life said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

Someone ban the bloke

Isn't the forum public?

I think there's largely a collective understanding that some information shared on the Fern is shared in confidence. The Myth page on FB has a large following and whoevers leaking information to that page is going against what @landers92 has asked.

Dick move in my view and I'm not suprised @landers92 is now reluctant to share that sort of information going forward.

Why? If the team isn't supposed to be leaked and whichever old mates on here are leaking it then that's on them isn't it?

There's no cone of silence in this place.

I don't say stuff from AB tours in the late 90s if I don't think it's for public knowledge.

Because it means we don’t get it on here if the idiot keeps leaking it to FB. So whoever is doing it is ruining it for the rest of us.

I don't care. The leaking was one of the issues with the last AB regime, I'm actually disappointed in Rennie for not stamping out.

I can hold out to the official team naming days.

@Nepia said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Canes4life said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Nepia said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Canes4life said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Bones said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Canes4life said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

Someone ban the bloke

Isn't the forum public?

I think there's largely a collective understanding that some information shared on the Fern is shared in confidence. The Myth page on FB has a large following and whoevers leaking information to that page is going against what @landers92 has asked.

Dick move in my view and I'm not suprised @landers92 is now reluctant to share that sort of information going forward.

Why? If the team isn't supposed to be leaked and whichever old mates on here are leaking it then that's on them isn't it?

There's no cone of silence in this place.

I don't say stuff from AB tours in the late 90s if I don't think it's for public knowledge.

Because it means we don’t get it on here if the idiot keeps leaking it to FB. So whoever is doing it is ruining it for the rest of us.

I don't care. The leaking was one of the issues with the last AB regime, I'm actually disappointed in Rennie for not stamping out.

I can hold out to the official team naming days.

Each to their own. Personally I think there should be alignment between all squads and the time they announce their teams for the week. It works well in Super.

@Canes4life said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Nepia said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Canes4life said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Bones said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Canes4life said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

Someone ban the bloke

Isn't the forum public?

I think there's largely a collective understanding that some information shared on the Fern is shared in confidence. The Myth page on FB has a large following and whoevers leaking information to that page is going against what @landers92 has asked.

Dick move in my view and I'm not suprised @landers92 is now reluctant to share that sort of information going forward.

Why? If the team isn't supposed to be leaked and whichever old mates on here are leaking it then that's on them isn't it?

There's no cone of silence in this place.

I don't say stuff from AB tours in the late 90s if I don't think it's for public knowledge.

Because it means we don’t get it on here if the idiot keeps leaking it to FB. So whoever is doing it is ruining it for the rest of us.

It would but this guy obviously doesn’t care - he’s all about his social media profile and getting the likes even if it doesn’t last. There would need to be a password-protected area of the forum and a vetting system for access to stop the info getting out.

@Nepia said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Canes4life said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Nepia said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Canes4life said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Bones said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Canes4life said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

Someone ban the bloke

Isn't the forum public?

I think there's largely a collective understanding that some information shared on the Fern is shared in confidence. The Myth page on FB has a large following and whoevers leaking information to that page is going against what @landers92 has asked.

Dick move in my view and I'm not suprised @landers92 is now reluctant to share that sort of information going forward.

Why? If the team isn't supposed to be leaked and whichever old mates on here are leaking it then that's on them isn't it?

There's no cone of silence in this place.

I don't say stuff from AB tours in the late 90s if I don't think it's for public knowledge.

Because it means we don’t get it on here if the idiot keeps leaking it to FB. So whoever is doing it is ruining it for the rest of us.

I don't care. The leaking was one of the issues with the last AB regime, I'm actually disappointed in Rennie for not stamping out.

I can hold out to the official team naming days.

Leaking has been going on for years. Players talk to families, family members talk. Staff talk as well.

@mariner4life said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

yeah "rucks attended" is the dumbest stat

The ref usually scores highly on that one.

@ACT-Crusader said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Nepia said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Canes4life said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Nepia said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Canes4life said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Bones said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Canes4life said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

Someone ban the bloke

Isn't the forum public?

I think there's largely a collective understanding that some information shared on the Fern is shared in confidence. The Myth page on FB has a large following and whoevers leaking information to that page is going against what @landers92 has asked.

Dick move in my view and I'm not suprised @landers92 is now reluctant to share that sort of information going forward.

Why? If the team isn't supposed to be leaked and whichever old mates on here are leaking it then that's on them isn't it?

There's no cone of silence in this place.

I don't say stuff from AB tours in the late 90s if I don't think it's for public knowledge.

Because it means we don’t get it on here if the idiot keeps leaking it to FB. So whoever is doing it is ruining it for the rest of us.

I don't care. The leaking was one of the issues with the last AB regime, I'm actually disappointed in Rennie for not stamping out.

I can hold out to the official team naming days.

Leaking has been going on for years. Players talk to families, family members talk. Staff talk as well.

Are you really making a case that the leaking of the past few years has been on a similar par to other years, in most years it's journos guessing from training with a sometime decent and sometimes not strike rate?

I know your natural reaction is shields up for your mostly rednblack coaching team, and I don't fault you for that, but the previous lot leaked like a sieve that only had one gigantic hole.

@Nepia all I can say from my own experience is that during the Henry/Hansen years players talked before teams were named and stuff got out. And I’m not just talking about journos having a calculated guess.

Continued under Fozzie and Razor.

@ACT-Crusader said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Nepia all I can say from my own experience is that during the Henry/Hansen years players talked before teams were named and stuff got out. And I’m not just talking about journos having a calculated guess.

Continued under Fozzie and Razor.

I don't remember them being discussed on here during that time, in fact I don't remember them being discussed until the Razor era, maybe it's only noticeable when we're not doing so well (although then I should remember the Fozzie era).

Either way, I think it's a bit precious of us as a group to get upset at our leaks being leaked.

One interesting note

Based on the above it sounds like no Preston - I wonder if its a case of not meeting markers or the plan was to give him a look vs Italy and that didnt happen as Ratima only got 5 mins vs France.