Isn't DANZ a company that loses a billion dollars a year?
@antipodean For the last two reported years at least. They're claiming an increase of revenue to GBP3.2B in 2023 (up from GBP1.4B in 2022), but who knows how much more they spent.
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Aust are losing some young players. First Gleeson, now Hooper.
These are the sort of fringe guys that we're losing more and more of. Good enough at Super level, probably not quite up to Wallaby quality at the moment.
We just can't pay them what they can get overseas. So I suppose you tip your cap and say good luck. But it's one reason why we can't support five teams and struggle now to support four.
@barbarian said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
But it's one reason why we can't support five teams and struggle now to support four.
And that would be true if we went back to 3 - the product has a certain value, out of which RUPA's slice of the pie is given to players.
Less teams = smaller pie.
Aus need to identify the ones they absolutely need to keep, and pay them. Bell, Valetini, i reckon Ikitau as well.
Let Thor go, he's not worth anywhere near what he is on.
@mariner4life said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
Let Thor go, he's not worth anywhere near what he is on.
He has the most expensive calf muscles in world rugby.
A short-term injury replacement for Pieter-Steph du Toit at Toyota Verblitz.
@Mr-Fish said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
Isaac Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens might be related to Jacob.
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An improved broadcast deal for RA.
Rugby Australia’s next five-year broadcast deal could be worth as much as $250 million if its Super Rugby franchises and the Wallabies return to winning ways.
The Financial Review revealed that the cash-strapped governing body could earn as much as $30m in incentives should its teams meet certain criteria. The extra cash would be in addition to a five-year deal worth a fraction over $210m – or 42m per annum.
“We can confirm we’ve reached an in-principle agreement with Rugby Australia,” a Nine spokesman told the AFR’s Zoe Samios. “We will share more details in due course as we finalise the contractual arrangements.”
One of the guys from my club last year had a run out for the Brumbies against the Tahs, trying to work out if he's snagged wtg spot or what the deal was, showing what the connection can be between club and pro, a lot of chatter on the club group chat about checking out the Brumbies this season
@KiwiMurph said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
An improved broadcast deal for RA.
Rugby Australia’s next five-year broadcast deal could be worth as much as $250 million if its Super Rugby franchises and the Wallabies return to winning ways. The Financial Review revealed that the cash-strapped governing body could earn as much as $30m in incentives should its teams meet certain criteria. The extra cash would be in addition to a five-year deal worth a fraction over $210m – or 42m per annum. “We can confirm we’ve reached an in-principle agreement with Rugby Australia,” a Nine spokesman told the AFR’s Zoe Samios. “We will share more details in due course as we finalise the contractual arrangements.”
Awesome, hopefully they'll pay NZR back the Dosh we're gave them over the last few years 
@Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
@KiwiMurph said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
An improved broadcast deal for RA.
Rugby Australia’s next five-year broadcast deal could be worth as much as $250 million if its Super Rugby franchises and the Wallabies return to winning ways. The Financial Review revealed that the cash-strapped governing body could earn as much as $30m in incentives should its teams meet certain criteria. The extra cash would be in addition to a five-year deal worth a fraction over $210m – or 42m per annum. “We can confirm we’ve reached an in-principle agreement with Rugby Australia,” a Nine spokesman told the AFR’s Zoe Samios. “We will share more details in due course as we finalise the contractual arrangements.”Awesome, hopefully they'll pay NZR back the Dosh we're gave them over the last few years
It's completely weird that Oz is getting an improved deal, and if the stories are to be believed we're getting a much worse deal when SR ratings were up in NZ last year.
Good for me, I was worried Fox/Kayo might get them back.
Schmidts departure confirmed -
Kiss has done a good job with the Reds.
He benefits somewhat on the back of the cleanout Thorn did, and the continuity it created. But he's added real Steel to everything they do, and that could translate into Wallabies success.
@Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
Sad for Ozzie but good on him for looking after his family.
Agreed. Respect for that decision.
@Nepia said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
@Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
@KiwiMurph said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
An improved broadcast deal for RA.
Rugby Australia’s next five-year broadcast deal could be worth as much as $250 million if its Super Rugby franchises and the Wallabies return to winning ways. The Financial Review revealed that the cash-strapped governing body could earn as much as $30m in incentives should its teams meet certain criteria. The extra cash would be in addition to a five-year deal worth a fraction over $210m – or 42m per annum. “We can confirm we’ve reached an in-principle agreement with Rugby Australia,” a Nine spokesman told the AFR’s Zoe Samios. “We will share more details in due course as we finalise the contractual arrangements.”Awesome, hopefully they'll pay NZR back the Dosh we're gave them over the last few years
It's completely weird that Oz is getting an improved deal, and if the stories are to be believed we're getting a much worse deal when SR ratings were up in NZ last year.
Good for me, I was worried Fox/Kayo might get them back.
I think you will find the Wallabies will have to win everything (including WC) to get incentives. But in reality even at $42 mill a year if they do get it, still $3mill a year less than they got before 2019. Hopefully the reports are true, and they do get more cash, they badly need it.
@Dan54 said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
But in reality even at $42 mill a year if they do get it, still $3mill a year less than they got before 2019
The $42 mil per year is before incentives.
Incentives would bump it up closer to $50 mil per year
So who get's Wallaby job. I wouldn't be surprised if Cheika doesn't get the gig. They could do worse than him.
firstly i think if they keep taking from inside aus then theyre just stunting the franchises growing, someone outside the current system would be good for me
@Dan54 said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
So who get's Wallaby job. I wouldn't be surprised if Cheika doesn't get the gig. They could do worse than him.
I think they would rather keep the momentum going of what Schmidt has established so Kiss makes much more sense in my view (has strong ties with Schmidt)
@KiwiMurph said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
@Dan54 said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
So who get's Wallaby job. I wouldn't be surprised if Cheika doesn't get the gig. They could do worse than him.
I think they would rather keep the momentum going of what Schmidt has established so Kiss makes much more sense in my view (has strong ties with Schmidt)
Yep , just Cheika has by coincidence chucked in his job at Leicester a couple of weeks back.
I wonder if RA wants to keep strong coaching teams at super clubs. Cheika has a pretty handy record at international level, with the Wallabies and Pumas?
Of course I could be completely wrong too of course!!:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:
@Dan54 said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
@KiwiMurph said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
@Dan54 said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
So who get's Wallaby job. I wouldn't be surprised if Cheika doesn't get the gig. They could do worse than him.
I think they would rather keep the momentum going of what Schmidt has established so Kiss makes much more sense in my view (has strong ties with Schmidt)
Yep , just Cheika has by coincidence chucked in his job at Leicester a couple of weeks back.
I wonder if RA wants to keep strong coaching teams at super clubs. Cheika has a pretty handy record at international level, with the Wallabies and Pumas?Of course I could be completely wrong too of course!!:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:
Yeah nah
Ireland great and La Rochelle coach Ronan O’Gara has thrown his hat into the Wallabies coaching ring as Rugby Australia confirmed they are open to sourcing overseas candidates for the Wallabies job.
@KiwiMurph would have strong credentials knowing the arch enemy plus the NH experience.
Cully suggesting Vern Cotter.
I could see that. Will be an interesting sub plot for the next few months.
No fucking way Cheika. Fuck that. Might as well get Eddie back.
ROG is such a twat.
These aren't great choices
@NTA said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
ROG is such a twat.
But he's a coach that puts it all out there for his team, so not a bad idea imo
@Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
@NTA said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
ROG is such a twat.
But he's a coach that puts it all out there for his team, so not a bad idea imo
Which is what Cheika did, while acting the twat, and got the whole Rugby playing part of the nation a reputation while he was at it.
@Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
@Dan54 said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
@KiwiMurph said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
@Dan54 said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
So who get's Wallaby job. I wouldn't be surprised if Cheika doesn't get the gig. They could do worse than him.
I think they would rather keep the momentum going of what Schmidt has established so Kiss makes much more sense in my view (has strong ties with Schmidt)
Yep , just Cheika has by coincidence chucked in his job at Leicester a couple of weeks back.
I wonder if RA wants to keep strong coaching teams at super clubs. Cheika has a pretty handy record at international level, with the Wallabies and Pumas?Of course I could be completely wrong too of course!!:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:
Yeah nah
i feel this is one of those times the stats dont give the whole picture, he also got them to the RWC final in 2015...and feel (un researched or confirmed) there was a generational loss of talent in the years afterwards...i feel they might be on the way up again (fingers crossed) and someone like him might be able to do something with that
Cheika is a short term genius. Bring him in for 1-2 years and he works magic, which then wears off as his coaching tactics lose their shine. He also says some wild stuff and can generate a headline.
I don't think that type of coach is what we need right now. I prefer the Dave Rennie/Joe Schmidt-type quiet tactician and I get the sense RA does as well.