Christie would be nowhere near the side if not for a really rough run of injuries. I'd prefer Fakatava, but him I can cut Robertson some slack for.
For the 10 I can't. He's first choice, and he's so much more of a source of the problem than our 4th choice halfback.

Given the problems with the high ball coming into the game it really was a crazy decision not to pick Clarke.

How much damage has that 40 minutes done to All Black rugby

46 missed tackles according to the Herald. Such shithouse loose forwards.

@Duluth said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

Given the problems with the high ball coming into the game it really was a crazy decision not to pick Clarke.

I think it was crazy not to pick him in test #1 of the season. He was excellent for the ABs last year. Seems like depending on who you are, your Super form does or doesn't matter.

@Tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

46 missed tackles according to the Herald. Such shithouse loose forwards.

Give them time haha

@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

I was initially disappointed that Razor couldn’t corral a stronger support team when he was appointed,

You have to ask why that was.

@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

@Jet said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

Coach, Captain and 10 are not Allblack standard.

Is that all?

The fish rots from the head.

Those 3 chancers have the biggest influence on the trajectory of the team.

@Duluth said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

@Tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

46 missed tackles according to the Herald. Such shithouse loose forwards.

Give them time haha

And the Chiefs shouldn't have had to play the Blues in a quarter final! Very unfair to expose their shit loose forwards like that.

@Tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

46 missed tackles according to the Herald. Such shithouse loose forwards.

Our forwards are a mess.

@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

@Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

@Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

Time to fuck Proctor off he is not up to it.

Not our biggest problem

Does not change the fact that he is no up to it.

Don’t use him as a straw man. He went off before the floodgates opened

oh fuck off he was shit before he went off that is what counts as far as his game goes.

@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

How much damage has that 40 minutes done to All Black rugby

This needs an updated edition and epilogue.

@Chris Yup, Proctor has shown nothing at test level. Just a passenger.

@Duluth said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

@Tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

46 missed tackles according to the Herald. Such shithouse loose forwards.

Give them time haha

'And Razor too.....'

Just imagine if this happened at home under Fozzie and Cane.

@ACT-Crusader 46 tackles missed is diabolical

@Darth-Sader A lot.

The thing is we all knew that this side had a stinker of a half in them.

@Jet said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

How much damage has that 40 minutes done to All Black rugby

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This needs an updated edition and epilogue.

Don't be complacent cunts who get high on your own hype.

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

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not pretty reading

Least Jordie seemed to care, saved a try and the big fat 50 being put on us. 12 tackles

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

@kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

Expect Havilli - Fainganuku 12 and 13 combo v wallabies

Fihaki on one wing and Ennor on the other with Jordan at fullback.

Makes sense to me.

You are a sick man

@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

@kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

Expect Havilli - Fainganuku 12 and 13 combo v wallabies

Fihaki on one wing and Ennor on the other with Jordan at fullback.

Makes sense to me.

You are a sick man

He just has a bet on us conceeding 60 or something.

Well ,as I had posted, today was my 71st birthday and was looking forward to this test so much. I then watched the worst AB performance I have seen live in my life, by quite some margin.
I can handle a loss happily, but when I think the players look like they had lost interest, to say I am pissed is an understatement

@jamsb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

@ACT-Crusader 46 tackles missed is diabolical

Yes the number isn’t great, but I’d be more concerned about our poor completion rate overall and the fact we could not capitalise on the Boks poor completion rate also.

We got chances but as the territory stats show we were fighting it up hill with our poor kicking game and lack of just methodical play from 10 or 15.

@Duluth said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

Given the problems with the high ball coming into the game it really was a crazy decision not to pick Clarke.

Sometimes the simplest answer is the right one.

@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

Least Jordie seemed to care, saved a try and the big fat 50 being put on us. 12 tackles

Our best I thought, even if that is about the lowest bar imaginable.
Seems hard to believe that there was once a time when I thought he was the undeserving Barrett re selection.

Boks handling was really poor in the first half

Another issue was the number of shoulder charges we went for - Sititi, Vaa'i, Williams etc. Just luck that none of them got head contact

Vaa'i in particular was lucky not to get a card for his

The 2027 RWC unfortunately looks a 0% risk of any breakdancing...

@Kirwan Jordie Barrett, Scott Parker and Fletcher Newell can stay. Not really fussed about any of others based on that.

@Darth-Sader everything is up in the air now.

@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

Least Jordie seemed to care, saved a try and the big fat 50 being put on us. 12 tackles

Our best I thought, even if that is about the lowest bar imaginable.
Seems hard to believe that there was once a time when I thought he was the undeserving Barrett re selection.

Highest tackles and carries. Plus he took a couple of highballs dropping back.

@Dan54 Happy Birthday.

I am sorry the ABs served up such a disgusting shocker for you.

Taking nothing away from the Springboks who were outstanding in the second half, I hope some of the players, coaches and senior administrators involved in that appalling All Blacks performance feel thoroughly ashamed.

@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

Well ,as I had posted, today was my 71st birthday and was looking forward to this test so much. I then watched the worst AB performance I have seen live in my life, by quite some margin.
I can handle a loss happily, but when I think the players look like they had lost interest, to say I am pissed is an understatement

@Duluth That second half was every bit as ugly as the one at Twickenham against France in 1999 in the World Cup Semi Final. At least then we had Jonah the Great on the pitch to sprinkle a bit of magic amid the rabbits caught in the opposition's headlights.

I am going back to New South Wales County in 1992 for an All Blacks performance that has left me feeling so thoroughly disgusted and angry.

Well played South Africa! We seem to be overcoached. Too much in their headspace clouding their instincts and ability. And I don't think we have enough rugby intelligence in the leadership group. Plenty of doers, not enough tactical smarts.

@sparky said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

I am going back to New South Wales County in 1992 for an All Blacks performance that has left me feeling so thoroughly disgusted and angry.

It was vs Sydney wasn't it?

Ended a few careers. As this should too

Just watched the post match interview with Razor. Cannot believe how soft the AB cheerleaders from SKY are with him. Sickening. They really don't seem to care that the legacy and the brand has been absolutely shattered tonight.