@Dodge said in England Vs All Blacks:

@Bones said in England Vs All Blacks:

Bear in mind this is a Borthwick team. If we can get on top, I can't see they will have the belief they have the tools to work their way back. If they get on top, I wouldn't count against us coming back. Basically we're lucky he's coached less resolve into them than Razor has into the ABs.

those of you who take any notice of my posts will realise i am no fan of Borthwick but I am not sure this is a fair representation, I think resolve is probably the one thing he has managed to get into this environment. We've won some games late under him, we've stuck in games pretty well. My issue with him is that he can't coach rugby

Oh sure, the individual players have resolve, but I'm a long way from convinced they think they're on the right path and have the right game plan.

@canefan said in England Vs All Blacks:

TSF is essentially an island of rugby reason in a sea of idiots

Island in the sea thst is what we are!

@DaGrubster said in England Vs All Blacks:

@canefan said in England Vs All Blacks:

TSF is essentially an island of rugby reason in a sea of idiots

Island in the sea thst is what are

No one in between, how can we be wrong?

And we rely on a Barrett, aha, from one brother to another, aha.

@Bones said in England Vs All Blacks:

And we rely on a Barrett, aha, from one brother to another, aha.

And we rely on a Barrett, aha, from one brother to Mo’unga, aha

Any more of that and we'll be out to get you with a sharp toothed comb!

@KiwiMurph said in England Vs All Blacks:

ALB sucks as a bench option

Gets a bench spot

Make it make sense....

Makes perfect sense. The coaches are retarded.

You've picked a winger who can play 12, perhaps 13.
You've picked a 12 who can play 13.

So an injury to Tupaea can be covered by the winger Fainga'anuku.

An injury to Proctor can be covered by either of Tupaea or Fainga'anuku.

But an injury to Fainga'anuku gets covered by, I don't know, Tosi?

So why wouldn't you ignore the bloke with a proven record playing 11 and 13, and instead pick a bloke whose only impact is to get penalised off the fucking park?

@Mauss said in England Vs All Blacks:

Anyway, all of this to say that this isn’t something uniquely pertinent to the All Blacks alone. But where the ABs have been lacking, I think, is in those moments right before and after high balls. What the ABs need to do, more than anything else, is work on their defensive retreat and make sure that any spilt ball from the high ball is cleaned up.

That would require a cultural change within the team after witnessing them give up against South Africa in Wellington.

Ellison's top three bullet points must be:

• Be slow and lazy to realign.
• Don't effectively communicate.
• Be an individual.

@His-Bobness said in England Vs All Blacks:

Interesting watching Aussie ex-hack David Pembroke’s podcast interview with two former Wallaby coaches in Eddie Jones and Ewen McKenzie on the prospects for England vs All Blacks this weekend. Jones reckons Borthwick has England 12 months ahead of the ABs in terms of development and believes they’ll have too much depth and power. He reckons it will be close, but England will take it by “a few”.

If Eddie is predicting we lose that makes me a little more confident.

@BerniesCorner said in England Vs All Blacks:

Of course forwards are more important than backs.

A perfect example of “ Awful analysis, incorrect conclusions, zero insight. Wrong about pretty much everything”

Backs are constantly saving lazy forwards, score the points and more importantly get the good looking women.

@Bones said in England Vs All Blacks:

And we rely on a Barrett, aha, from one brother to another, aha.

You need a bridge section...

# Our coach struggles with his men
has problems with his 10
And his love for things Barrett will never end
But we walk together, a, ha,
Doing selfies with each other, ah ha #

@ACT-Crusader said in England Vs All Blacks:

@BerniesCorner said in England Vs All Blacks:

Of course forwards are more important than backs.

A perfect example of “ Awful analysis, incorrect conclusions, zero insight. Wrong about pretty much everything”

Backs are constantly saving lazy forwards, score the points and more importantly get the good looking women.

Bollocks, us men give you girls the ball only to see you knock it on at the first opportunity. However, we keep doing it because we like to scrum.

oh the oldest debate in the book, you're both wrong of course, scrum halves are the coolest, most important people on the pitch and in the bar, the rest of you do as you're told.

I’m oscillating between wanting the English to lose - because, well… - and wanting the ABs to lose because it’ll give them some learnings.

@antipodean leroy carter can cover the left wing

@Dodge said in England Vs All Blacks:

oh the oldest debate in the book, you're both wrong of course, scrum halves are the coolest, most important people on the pitch and in the bar, the rest of you do as you're told.

Shut up you yappy little fucker.

@Catogrande said in England Vs All Blacks:

@Dodge said in England Vs All Blacks:

oh the oldest debate in the book, you're both wrong of course, scrum halves are the coolest, most important people on the pitch and in the bar, the rest of you do as you're told.

Shut up you yappy little fucker.

Mate, i make Henry Pollock look shy and retiring, and you love it

@Dodge said in England Vs All Blacks:

oh the oldest debate in the book, you're both wrong of course, scrum halves are the coolest, most important people on the pitch and in the bar, the rest of you do as you're told.

Tell us all again about your exploits at 9, Dodge.

you don't have long enough left for that old man

@No-Quarter said in England Vs All Blacks:

Another chance to be a broken record about our idiotic media

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"The 25 year old's return sees Wallace Sititi demoted to the bench"

Sititi has NOT been demoted. Repeat, NOT demoted, he has been put on the bench because he is an absolute fucking weapon for us at the back end of the game. You know, the part of the game where matches are won and lost? If he had been DEMOTED as this absurd article suggests, we wouldn't be fucking trusting him with winning us the game at the end would we!!

Jesus H Christ when will these idiots learn that modern rugby is a 23 man game?!?

100%.

They also refer to Parker as having been "dropped" when in reality the thinking was probably more along the lines of giving him some rest so that he would be 100% energized for the England match.

They are probably just looking for engagement and headlines but the scarier thought is that they might actually be that stupid.