Next AB captain?

@Rembrandt said in Next AB captain?:

@DrivingMaul said in Next AB captain?:

A lot of people saying definitely Whitelock but I think Sam Cane is in with a decent shout

Whitelock is 30, Cane 27. Will be interesting to see if Whitelock wants to stick around for another WC cycle, Cane is certainly young enough but will he want to with the injuries he's had

Whitelock S is signed through to 2023 I think. Competing in 4 RWC if things go well; at least 2 (and counting) winners medals.

Generationally they have to go with Cane. Would be happy Whitelock for two years but four on probabilities is going to end in tears.

Is there any reason why it has to be a forward? If not, ALB might be an option?

@Stargazer who was the last back we had as captain (regular, not one offs)

Was it Kirk?

Tana

@Bovidae of course...I knew I was missing someone haha...

It doesnt have to be a forward, but usually is.

There has only been 3 regular captains (Umaga, McCaw, Read) in the last 16 years so whoever it is needs to be in a position that plays the full 80 mins, and preferably is close to the action. That rules out hookers, props and halfbacks and outside backs. I like @rotated's idea of using Whitelock for 2 years and then transitioning to Cane. No one else really stands out.

@Rembrandt said in Next AB captain?:

Cane is certainly young enough but will he want to with the injuries he's had

He's from Reporoa, a broken neck - tis but a scratch".

List of all NZ captains:

Captains with more than 10 tests

Whineray
Lochore
Leslie
Mourie
Dalton
Kirk
Shelford
Whetton
Fitzpatrick
Randell
Blackadder
Oliver (A)
Thorne
Umaga
McCaw
Read

Edit: Bold for non-forwards

@nzzp said in Next AB captain?:

Captains with more than 10 tests

Whineray
Lochore
Leslie
Mourie
Dalton
Kirk
Shelford
Whetton
Fitzpatrick
Randell
Blackadder
Oliver (A)
Thorne
Umaga
McCaw
Read

Edit: Bold for non-forwards

Hah...ummm...you mean backs?

Don't really see the point in Whitelock for 2, then Cane once he hits Whitelock's age.

@Bones said in Next AB captain?:

Hah...ummm...you mean backs?

Yeah ... I was contorted because of halfbacks. Are they really backs? Really?

@Bones said in Next AB captain?:

@nzzp said in Next AB captain?:

Captains with more than 10 tests

Whineray
Lochore
Leslie
Mourie
Dalton
Kirk
Shelford
Whetton
Fitzpatrick
Randell
Blackadder
Oliver (A)
Thorne
Umaga
McCaw
Read

Edit: Bold for non-forwards

Hah...ummm...you mean backs?

Don't really see the point in Whitelock for 2, then Cane once he hits Whitelock's age.

I agree we kind of need someone to captain for the entire cycle. But I guess the way the team is run by the players' group these days, they might be able to overcome that, like an unofficial co-captain/captain in waiting.

@nzzp said in Next AB captain?:

@Bones said in Next AB captain?:

Hah...ummm...you mean backs?

Yeah ... I was contorted because of halfbacks. Are they really backs? Really?

It's 50/50...

@canefan said in Next AB captain?:

@Bones said in Next AB captain?:

@nzzp said in Next AB captain?:

Captains with more than 10 tests

Whineray
Lochore
Leslie
Mourie
Dalton
Kirk
Shelford
Whetton
Fitzpatrick
Randell
Blackadder
Oliver (A)
Thorne
Umaga
McCaw
Read

Edit: Bold for non-forwards

Hah...ummm...you mean backs?

Don't really see the point in Whitelock for 2, then Cane once he hits Whitelock's age.

I agree we kind of need someone to captain for the entire cycle. But I guess the way the team is run by the players' group these days, they might be able to overcome that, like an unofficial co-captain/captain in waiting.

But why?

@Bones @nzzp

What do you call those girls that hang around with rugby players?

Backs

I would hitch my wagon to either Cane, Goodhue or Savea.

@booboo said in Next AB captain?:

@Bones @nzzp

What do you call those girls that hang around with rugby players?

Backs

I never knew you were of that persuasion fella...