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@SynicBast said in Other Cricket 2020:

@MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

@ACT-Crusader said in Other Cricket 2020:

Not sure where to put this, but anyone else watching the BeIN Sports Cricket’s Greatest XI series. Hadn’t seen them. Pretty well put together.

1-Gavaskar
2-Gooch
3-Bradman
4-Tendulkar
5-Sobers
6-Kallis
7-Gilchrist
8-Khan
9-Warne
10-Akram
11-Holding

Gooch stands out like dogs balls much as I did admire him. Marshall would get in ahead of Holding too.

I'd go for one of Bradman's contemporaries in Bill Ponsford over Gooch everytime.

Well yeah, I mean he had a very good record for the era he played in, he was definitely a personal favourite in the day ( an average of 42 vs some of the best fast bowlers ever is something to be proud of ) but others have more of a claim I would have thought.

Still, there's only one other opener in the top 10 run scorers who averaged over 50 so perhaps he's not as left field as I initially thought ?

Average in the case of an opener is actually a telling statistic as is conversion rate and balls faced.

@SynicBast said in Other Cricket 2020:

Average in the case of an opener is actually a telling statistic

Yeah more so than other positions, but who they play their cricket for is important too given that %50 ish of their matches will be in home conditions. Morning on day one in England is probably a bit more difficult than day one in India. Day 5 India is a different thing with a turning ball but the openers may not bat that day.

@Snowy said in Other Cricket 2020:

@SynicBast said in Other Cricket 2020:

Average in the case of an opener is actually a telling statistic

Yeah more so than other positions, but who they play their cricket for is important too given that %50 ish of their matches will be in home conditions. Morning on day one in England is probably a bit more difficult than day one in India. Day 5 India is a different thing with a turning ball but the openers may not bat that day.

As an opener there's also statistically far less chance of getting cheeky not outs to pad the average that other batsmen get. Not taking anything away from them as they're all legends of the game but Kallis, Chanderpaul, S Waugh and Border all got heaps ( over 40 ) to help get the numbers up.

That being said I often reckon Matthew Hayden doesn't quite get the respect he might deserve given he had a bit of a flat track bully reputation.

Fast bowlers have had good results recently

@Duluth said in Other Cricket 2020:

Fast bowlers have had good results recently

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How do they have ball by ball data from the first quarter of that graph? I'd love to see it!

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Must be cos NZ have had not one, not two but THREE class pace bowlers all playing at once instead of Hadlee at one end and some shitty medium pacers at the other.

But seriously, interesting stats, never thought the period of the late 70s, 80s and early 90s would be bettered.

I raised this earlier, there are some cracking attacks around at the moment. And we tend to lump players from the past together even if they weren't actually around at the same time.

Lack of sport on TV (clearly) so been watching some ODI retrospective. Now, I know this won’t be popular with all but they was a section on the recent CWC. For a British audience so very much England centric. It was a bit more than just the game itself, it went into the emotions and confusion surrounding the Super Over and the aftermath. Really interesting and showed the guys in a very human way. Several of them were very regretful of how NZ lost.

CricInfo and BBC Sport have picked their current World Test XI's in the last week.

Info's was picked by four of their commentators and the BBC was a public vote

CI
Sharma
Karunaratne
Williamson
Smith
Kohli
Stokes
de Kock
Cummins
Ashwin
Rabada
Boult

BBC
Sharma
Warner
Smith
Williamson
Kohli
Stokes
de Kock
Cummins
Starc
Bumrah
Anderson

@mariner4life said in Other Cricket 2020:

I raised this earlier, there are some cracking attacks around at the moment. And we tend to lump players from the past together even if they weren't actually around at the same time.

I think despite the advances in batting technology the ebb and flow is favouring bowlers again. Pleasing that our three main pacemen ( yes including the much maligned Southee ) are playing their part in this.

Some early COVID musings for club cricket in oz. Released in an email to clubs in SA. Can t speak for the others.

No sweat or spitting on the ball to shine.
Slips 1.5 metres apart.
Only wicketkeeper near the batsman when standing up.
No hugging or celebrating closely.
Fist bumps only
Possibility of reducing teams to 10 aside ( I shit you not)
Each club must appoint a COVID safety officer and produce plans.

Early days and time for reason to emerge but aren't fish heads and safety committees great?

Personally I think we'll play exactly the same way as we did last season.

Some Test cricket to watch!

If you have sparksport..

@Duluth That's around 45 miles from me ... and it pissting down here today and forecast too all day ....

The England v WI test is also on BBC for those that can access.
Not much play in day one. Windies got an early wicket with early movement but pitch looks dead.

Good grief Indians write some utter bullshit about cricket so I’m in two minds on this one.....

Big fan of Ryder in the day but I’ve grown to enjoy the fact Henry Nicholls keeps his drinking under control.

I think at test level he was missed more and a 3/4/5 of KW, Rossco and him could have competed with anyone.

I miss Bondy though and despite the stop starts still rate him our second best ever.

So the West Indies get up over the English at the Rose Bowl. First test match post-Covid, no crowds, but a cracking game.

Windies were effectively 27-4 chasing 200, but got there pretty comfortably thanks to a big 95 from one of the middle order. Followed this on and off through the daily updates given time zones, and seemed a damn good test match. Must be weird playing inside empty stadia - maybe the new normal?

I do wonder, though, if there are no crowds why not go to genuinely small grounds with good pitches, put up temp camera positions, and have at it? How nice would it be at a 'garden' type ground rather than an amphitheatre?

@nzzp said in Other Cricket 2020:

So the West Indies get up over the English at the Rose Bowl. First test match post-Covid, no crowds, but a cracking game.

Windies were effectively 27-4 chasing 200, but got there pretty comfortably thanks to a big 95 from one of the middle order. Followed this on and off through the daily updates given time zones, and seemed a damn good test match. Must be weird playing inside empty stadia - maybe the new normal?

I do wonder, though, if there are no crowds why not go to genuinely small grounds with good pitches, put up temp camera positions, and have at it? How nice would it be at a 'garden' type ground rather than an amphitheatre?

I’m glad test cricket has been unaffected by Covid

@MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

@nzzp said in Other Cricket 2020:

So the West Indies get up over the English at the Rose Bowl. First test match post-Covid, no crowds, but a cracking game.

Windies were effectively 27-4 chasing 200, but got there pretty comfortably thanks to a big 95 from one of the middle order. Followed this on and off through the daily updates given time zones, and seemed a damn good test match. Must be weird playing inside empty stadia - maybe the new normal?

I do wonder, though, if there are no crowds why not go to genuinely small grounds with good pitches, put up temp camera positions, and have at it? How nice would it be at a 'garden' type ground rather than an amphitheatre?

I’m glad test cricket has been unaffected by Covid

Except for no saliva on the ball. Decreases the opportunity for sandpaper use.

@MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

@nzzp said in Other Cricket 2020:

So the West Indies get up over the English at the Rose Bowl. First test match post-Covid, no crowds, but a cracking game.

Windies were effectively 27-4 chasing 200, but got there pretty comfortably thanks to a big 95 from one of the middle order. Followed this on and off through the daily updates given time zones, and seemed a damn good test match. Must be weird playing inside empty stadia - maybe the new normal?

I do wonder, though, if there are no crowds why not go to genuinely small grounds with good pitches, put up temp camera positions, and have at it? How nice would it be at a 'garden' type ground rather than an amphitheatre?

I’m glad test cricket has been unaffected by Covid

Jesus that’s actually funny, do you get your boys to write your jokes now..

@Virgil said in Other Cricket 2020:

@MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

@nzzp said in Other Cricket 2020:

So the West Indies get up over the English at the Rose Bowl. First test match post-Covid, no crowds, but a cracking game.

Windies were effectively 27-4 chasing 200, but got there pretty comfortably thanks to a big 95 from one of the middle order. Followed this on and off through the daily updates given time zones, and seemed a damn good test match. Must be weird playing inside empty stadia - maybe the new normal?

I do wonder, though, if there are no crowds why not go to genuinely small grounds with good pitches, put up temp camera positions, and have at it? How nice would it be at a 'garden' type ground rather than an amphitheatre?

I’m glad test cricket has been unaffected by Covid

Jesus that’s actually funny, do you get your boys to write your jokes now..

I could screenshot the absolute plethora of likes you've given me on FB over the years but that would only embarrass you.

@MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

@Virgil said in Other Cricket 2020:

@MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

@nzzp said in Other Cricket 2020:

So the West Indies get up over the English at the Rose Bowl. First test match post-Covid, no crowds, but a cracking game.

Windies were effectively 27-4 chasing 200, but got there pretty comfortably thanks to a big 95 from one of the middle order. Followed this on and off through the daily updates given time zones, and seemed a damn good test match. Must be weird playing inside empty stadia - maybe the new normal?

I do wonder, though, if there are no crowds why not go to genuinely small grounds with good pitches, put up temp camera positions, and have at it? How nice would it be at a 'garden' type ground rather than an amphitheatre?

I’m glad test cricket has been unaffected by Covid

Jesus that’s actually funny, do you get your boys to write your jokes now..

I could screenshot the absolute plethora of likes you've given me on FB over the years but that would only embarrass you.

#fakenews

Cool game. I left the Windies at effectively 4 down for 30 something, with some admiration that they'd pushed the poms valiantly. The new dukes was going all over and the poms were bowling disciplined.

A fine win for the caribbeans. That Blackwood 95 must have been class on a 5th day wicket with uneven bounce.

Crazy toss decision by Stokes in that weather. Anderson bowling like he's 10 years younger. Poms still picking journeymen batters who average under 40 in 1st class, and come to test cricket with glaring technical flaws - play 10 games, get a ton and only ever get mentioned with the suffix " oh yeah, I think I remember him" Vince, Malan, Stoneham, Keaton someone, Carbery, etc. Now add Denly and soon crawley.
Not that I can offer better but they're taking our "chuck em in and see" approach to batsmen selections to new heights.

Jason Holder is a marvel.
Please let there be a turning wicket so we can see big Rahkeem in action. He's got bigger

Great to have test cricket to watch in an evening instead of that incessant Netflix browsing we've been doing for months!

Root obviously got one 9 months ago, so he's back for the next one at old Trafford on Thursday.

Oh, and if there's one professional sport where the players are used to no crowds, it's red ball cricket!

@Siam said in Other Cricket 2020:

Cool game. I left the Windies at effectively 4 down for 30 something, with some admiration that they'd pushed the poms valiantly. The new dukes was going all over and the poms were bowling disciplined.

A fine win for the caribbeans. That Blackwood 95 must have been class on a 5th day wicket with uneven bounce.

Crazy toss decision by Stokes in that weather. Anderson bowling like he's 10 years younger. Poms still picking journeymen batters who average under 40 in 1st class, and come to test cricket with glaring technical flaws - play 10 games, get a ton and only ever get mentioned with the suffix " oh yeah, I think I remember him" Vince, Malan, Stoneham, Keaton someone, Carbery, etc. Now add Denly and soon crawley.
Not that I can offer better but they're taking our "chuck em in and see" approach to batsmen selections to new heights.

Jason Holder is a marvel.
Please let there be a turning wicket so we can see big Rahkeem in action. He's got bigger

Great to have test cricket to watch in an evening instead of that incessant Netflix browsing we've been doing for months!

Root obviously got one 9 months ago, so he's back for the next one at old Trafford on Thursday.

Oh, and if there's one professional sport where the players are used to no crowds, it's red ball cricket!

Had a look at the scoreboard, how does the opener get 8 not out? Retired hurt ?

I think Holder is a brilliant captain as well as best all rounder in the world. What a player

@MN5 yeah got hit on the foot first ball from Archer and lasted about 2 overs before retiring hurt. Would've fucken hurt

Anyone in Aus with Foxtel turn on to 501 NOW.

You will not regret it.

First match of the '87 WSC at Perth.

Some super catches Dipak Patel.

And a 2nd last ball result

Jeez Paddles was a pleasure to watch

@booboo said in Other Cricket 2020:

Anyone in Aus with Foxtel turn on to 501 NOW.

You will not regret it.

First match of the '87 WSC at Perth.

Some super catches Dipak Patel.

And a 2nd last ball result

Streamed it last night. Great match.

@akan004 said in Other Cricket 2020:

@booboo said in Other Cricket 2020:

Anyone in Aus with Foxtel turn on to 501 NOW.

You will not regret it.

First match of the '87 WSC at Perth.

Some super catches Dipak Patel.

And a 2nd last ball result

Streamed it last night. Great match.

I recall watching it live at home at Ma n Pa's, home from Uni.

Was just after that Aussie fuck umpire robbed us in the test at the MCG (the ball must have been going under McDermott's stumps ... arrsehole).

Just saw the Req RR at 9. Unherd of in those days. Bastards got close. So glad to see the deflation when they thought they had it won.

@booboo said in Other Cricket 2020:

@akan004 said in Other Cricket 2020:

@booboo said in Other Cricket 2020:

Anyone in Aus with Foxtel turn on to 501 NOW.

You will not regret it.

First match of the '87 WSC at Perth.

Some super catches Dipak Patel.

And a 2nd last ball result

Streamed it last night. Great match.

I recall watching it live at home at Ma n Pa's, home from Uni.

Was just after that Aussie fuck umpire robbed us in the test at the MCG (the ball must have been going under McDermott's stumps ... arrsehole).

Just saw the Req RR at 9. Unherd of in those days. Bastards got close. So glad to see the deflation when they thought they had it won.

Yeah, around the 35th over I thought they had no chance. Can't believe they got so close. Crowe's batting was sheer class too.

@booboo said in Other Cricket 2020:

Jeez Paddles was a pleasure to watch

He was such a man amongst boys in the NZ teams he played in. Shame he never had KW, Rossco, BMac, Boult and Vettori alongside him.

@MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

@booboo said in Other Cricket 2020:

Jeez Paddles was a pleasure to watch

He was such a man amongst boys in the NZ teams he played in. Shame he never had KW, Rossco, BMac, Boult and Vettori alongside him.

Which is annoying me at the moment, we have a pretty good team and no one to play.

Rakheem Cornwall bowls like a dad to a kid in the back yard.

Sir Andrew Strauss? I hadn't noticed that.

Englan unable to defend 328 against the might of Ireland at Southampton
England all out for 327
Ireland romping home with 329/3 in 49.5 overs.
Mother's side of the family naturally distraught, father's side expected to sober up by about Labour Weekend!

@Siam said in Other Cricket 2020:

Rakheem Cornwall bowls like a dad to a kid in the back yard.

Sir Andrew Strauss? I hadn't noticed that.

He’s certainly a gutsy player alright

@Higgins sensational well done Ireland.

329/3! That' ridiculous

There's another virus at play affecting test cricket at the moment. It's symptoms present as administrators with their head up their own arse.

Like the other virus, this one is another reminder that we put too much faith, give too much credit, to those that govern the things we hold dear.

The Poms and Pakis keep going off for bad light.

No rain, just overcast skies and an astonishing unwillingness to use the lights - even though the players want them.

About the only genuine sporting contest in the world right now, potential worldwide audience and the telecast keeps being interrupted for bad light.
Million dollar light towers watch on in silence.

That's a good look for cricket eh?

All the stringent covid preparations and effort in putting international cricket on in this way, in probably the only country able, and the ICC can't pass an extraordinary permission for lights to be used in August 2020?

Fucken eggs!

Meanwhile the cricket is fucken grouse! Pakis are trying hard to be patient in typical English conditions. They've got the world's longest tail but an exciting bowling line up. Pakistan 223 for 9 after winning the toss, end of day 2, 2nd test.

The last day's play of the 1st test was classic test cricket. Poms needed 277 with all wickets in hand. The day just see-sawed and just when it looked gleefully like the Pakis would win, Woakes and Butler put on 139 at nearly run a ball, so the baddies won a thriller.

But I digress, fucken bad light in a lockdown pandemic, jesus !

MS Dhoni has retired.

First Indian captain that I really liked.

Legend of the game with an outstanding ODI record.

i honestly thought he retired like 2 years ago

hell of a player

He only played 90 tests, which shows that even India haven't played that much red-ball cricket in the 2000s.