@ACT-Crusader said in NFL Season 2020/21:
@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21:
Open season on the QB market!
The whole Dak Prescott thing just heated up with some strong comments from Troy Aikman.
missed that. what has Troy said?
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Wentz to the Colts for a third this year and a conditional first next year. (Wentz needs to start 75% or 70% plus Colts make the playoffs)
Eagles take the biggest dead money cap hit in NFL history, Wentz is reunited with Frank Reich.
@cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21:
Eagles take the biggest dead money cap hit in NFL history, Wentz is reunited with Frank Reich.
Eagles show that QB economics in the NFL are farked, and that it's a total punt
If Wentz can produce an a reasonable level this is going to be a good deal for the Colts. His cap hits will be around the 25m mark forthe next 4 years which is expensive but lower end for a starting qb.
To clarify my post before, if he doesn't hit those targets then the Colts send a second round pick, so the cheapest he could be is a second and a third.
The Colts are in a great position to make a run over the next few years.
It's going to be interesting to see what Philly do in the draft now - they have the 6th pick - do they go QB? If not, they could be a perfect spot for someone to trade up.
Yeah, the reports are that they want someone to compete with Hurts but whether that's a rookie or a veteran remains to be seen.
Could depend on how the draft falls. They might have one of the qbs that they love and will otherwise try to trade down.
Adam Schefter put the over/under for qb changes this off season at 18. This puts us at 4 so far and the new league year hasn't even officially started.
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@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21:
JJ Watt to the Cardinals on decent money.
Not what I expected, that is a tough division if he wants to win. But its nice and warm there
@canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21:
@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21:
JJ Watt to the Cardinals on decent money.
Not what I expected, that is a tough division if he wants to win. But its nice and warm there
i just realised all the pass rushers Wilson has to face in that division. Might really push for a move now? Purely for health reasons?
Welcome to The Valley, JJ Watt. It's a pity my only allegiance to Arizona is with the Suns because the Cardinals should be a really sticky watch next season.
Quite amazing how many big names have been traded or signed to NFC West in recent years.
Jamal Adams, Jalen Ramsey, Stafford, Hopkins, Trent Williams, JJ Watt
Dak Prescott saga is finally over.
Enormous 4 year contract extension with the Dallas Cowboys.
Dak won this negotiation.
Talk about making bank.
@kiwimurph that's ridiculous
QB economics do not make any sense, so there is no point trying to rationalise any transfer discussions.
@mariner4life This is one of the reasons why QBs are so sought after in the Draft - first rounders have a 5 year contract (well 4 + a team option year) of relatively low cost.
That is a super back loaded contract. Year 5 he'll count 13.5m against the cap, despite his contract ending after 4 years.
But with the cap coming down, probably a lot, this year it makes sense. Cap hit this year will be a bit over 22m. Next year will be a 33m hit and they'll be praying that league revenues bounce back big time. The 40m hits in 23 and 24 will hurt, but will be prime candidates for a restructure, pushing even more money to those voidable years. Cowboys have thought ahead on that one - the contract is 6 years (last 2 voiding) even though the max proration period is 5 years, clearly expecting to want to convert salary to roster bonus in the future.
Honestly, I don't think this is a terrible deal for the cowboys. As long as Dak comes back from injury 100% and the league revenues recover next year this contract is probably a narrow win for the cowboys.
The Seahawks Russell Wilson phoney war continues. Russ says he doesn't want to be traded, but provides a list of teams he is willing to be traded to. And the Hawks send the season ticket holders a letter talking about next season and there is no mention of Wilson. I know it will never happen, but you are welcome in SF Russ, and we can offer you better protection than Seattle
@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21:
As expected, Drew Brees retires
Prudent. His arm was shot. Thomas will be happy. So will they get Russell Wilson?
Deshaun Watson's big payday is now goooorrrrrn
and, if all this shit is true, fucking good job.
@mariner4life huh? He signed a 4 year $160 million extension last year with $111 million guaranteed.
@kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:
@mariner4life huh? He signed a 4 year $160 million extension last year with $111 million guaranteed.
apologies, clumsy wording. he wants out. he's unlikely to get that now. how's that guarantee if he gets a suspension?
@mariner4life True. However, i'd wait and see how this plays out. These are civil lawsuits, not criminal lawsuits and the lawyer involved has quite the reputation.
@kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:
@mariner4life True. However, i'd wait and see how this plays out. These are civil lawsuits, not criminal lawsuits and the lawyer involved has quite the reputation.
If these claims were stronger, surely the victims would press for a criminal trial?
Means nothing to me but may interest NFL followers?
An alternate reality where rugby is as popular as American football in the States.
@daffy-jaffy the locks look a bit short to me. 3 of the 4 are 1.93m and the 4th is 1.96m. Someone like DeForest Buckner at 2.01m would be a better bet.
@kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:
@daffy-jaffy the locks look a bit short to me. 3 of the 4 are 1.93m and the 4th is 1.96m. Someone like DeForest Buckner at 2.01m would be a better bet.
locks will be tough
Pope from the Cardinals at 2.03 and pair him with Kelce (who is way too fucking tall to play 12 at 1.96)
And Vonn miller is playing openside too
@mariner4life Kelce's hands would be useful in the lineout
@kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:
@mariner4life Kelce's hands would be useful in the lineout
yep.
if i am combining the teams, i am picking that safety from Tampa that hits like a truck in my midfield as well. Along with henry at 13.
Hill is getting a wing. DK Metcalf is getting a wing. Whoever the best punt returner is gets 15. Let's face it, kicking is going to be an issue. Wilson at 10 is a good shout.
There might be some handy 10s amongst the punters.
Wow.
49ers have traded up to the number 3 spot in the Draft.
49ers will be taking a QB with that pick.
I am very happy.
@kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:
Wow.
49ers have traded up to the number 3 spot in the Draft.
49ers will be taking a QB with that pick.
I am very happy.
Jimmy G is made of glass. The key now is to see the future and pick the best QB in the draft not named Trevor Laurence. History shows that you don't need the number 1 pick to get the best NFL QBs. Gotta pick the guy with the chip on his shoulder
@kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:
@canefan the best QB not named Lawrence will go to the Jets at 2 (Zach Wilson).
The good news for the 49ers is there are still QB options at 3. A lot more than at 12.
That's the best on paper. Finding the next Brady or Rodgers is much more difficult
@kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:
@canefan keep an eye on the name Trey Lance. I am 100% convinced that is who the 49ers will pick. Young and raw but huge ceiling and a perfect scheme fit for Shanahan. He'll sit behind Jimmy for a year.
It's such a crap shoot picking a QB
@kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:
@canefan Agreed. Though the exciting thing is this is the first time in Shanahan's career he's pulling the trigger on a top 3 QB himself. He didn't want Manziel in Cleveland and didn't want RG3 in Washington. He obviously sees something he really likes.
Now we get to see how smart he is
@kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:
@canefan the best QB not named Lawrence will go to the Jets at 2 (Zach Wilson).
The good news for the 49ers is there are still QB options at 3. A lot more than at 12.
I'm pretty convinced Taylor will be a bust. The level of competition he's played against in college is so low that it's basically irrelevant, and the only game he played against a half decent team he was exposed. I'd much rather have Fields.
Lance is an exciting prospect but has played so little he's all prospect. The Saleh connection presumably means that the 49ers have an idea of what the jets will be doing. QB is the most obvious and likely choice but there's a chance of a trade down particularly if the Panthers or even the Falcons decide to sell the farm to jump the 49ers.
The jets are at least one more draft and off season away from being genuine contenders so getting a QB now risks a repeat of the Sam Darnold show where a QB gets terrible habits from having no protection and no weapons.
Lynch and Shanahan take us behind the curtain
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So we get another qb move. The Panthers send a 6 this year and a 2 and a 4 next year to the Jets for Sam Darnold, and immediate take the 5th year option, a fully guaranteed $18.8m.
Teddy Bridgewater must be pissed, having been shipped out by the Jets after they first drafted Sam.
As a Jets fan, Sam was the next great hope after 'the Sanchize'. He utterly failed to deliver on that but he can point to awful rosters and probably the worst coach in recent memory as a factor.
The Panthers will be hoping that a new environment, a stacked offence and a very sharp coordinator in Joe Brady can get Darnold back on track. Darnold is only 23 (younger than Joe Burrow) so there's plenty of time for him to develop.
The other side of the coin is that this is a QB that's been in the bottom 5 pretty consistently, has developed poor habits around leaving the pocket too quickly thanks to years behind an inept oline and is prone to making hero plays.
The cards dealt Josh Rosen after one disappointing year for just a 2nd. In that context, I feel like the jets are winning this trade. But the if the Panthers get a starting qb out of this then it will have been great value.