@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Good team selection I think,Taking into account injuries etc.
The selection looks like it has been well thought out to combat the Boks usual game plan.

So ya reckon Fozzie is secretly on holiday?

Maybe at fat club?

Careful. Some ferners get upset with constant Fozzie fat jokes. Not me though, keep em coming !

Been hanging out at KFC & McD's hoping for an interview, but he's been nowhere to be seen.

@kiwimurph I also found it interesting re: announcement of WR's guidelines on training time limits when he said it depends on what you consider "full contract" but the amount of time sounded right to him.

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@kiwimurph I also found it interesting re: announcement of WR's guidelines on training time limits when he said it depends on what you consider "full contract" but the amount of time sounded right to him.

Full contract may have been Freudian slip about his position.

@derpus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@arhs Mostert? it's like you didn't watch their last two tests. He's the best loosie in the world, out of all the loosies who can't move sideways.

Was still more effective in what he brought than Vermeulen and Kolisi. Maybe they will play better this week?

Some more about selections:

@booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

3 Barretts starting. Only second group of 3 brothers to be ABs?

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@taniwharugby Good article this one, great writer.

I'm sorry, didn't check writer's name.
My beef with him isn't that he's not a good writer, he just chose to be a troll (and not sure he actually likes rugby union anyway).

Started as the loigue writer iirc

Makes sense, he tries tried to write about league even in his union columns-actually I haven't read his articles for years, even if he is the only Welsh troll in the village...

@machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Jesus there some clueless comments here, not all of them, but these leapt out. More stuff to be up on the changing room walls

This is not the same team that won the World Cup. Let's be very clear on that. They've lost a number of their players who have headed off overseas

SA freely pick from anywhere

And two years ago, they were playing a lot more open and expansive rugby than this team is showing us this year."

Obviously didn't watch the semi versus Wales

The fullback is fine; Willie le Roux is a very good player

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"Willie le Roux is a very good player"

“Willie le Roux was a very good player” he has been average for quite sometime

oh not arguing with that, I just couldn't find Mains saying that, he blamed the centre, props..

I'm missing your point, he said the Le Roux is not a problem as he is a very good player. Which is utter rubbish, he was def a problem versus the Wallabies - he was responsible for a lot of the stiffled attack

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It is no biggie I thought you meant Mains said that and/or his article agreed with you.
I don't expect Le Roux remembers he once played running rugby. I'm not sure I ever thought he was a fantastic strategic kicker and when I saw him play years ago he did more damage as an unpredictable wing type than as a safe fullback type but a Bok supporter might well correct me.

Why so much concern in the papers over loosies, when we should be more worried about props (well, not Moody) and the less experienced midfield?
Not about Bridge of course, I just read that he was athletic. That will be enough...hope JB is retained for kicking duties...

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Why so much concern in the papers over loosies, when we should be more worried about props (well, not Moody) and the less experienced midfield?
Not about Bridge of course, I just read that he was athletic. That will be enough...hope JB is retained for kicking duties...

The loss of Papali’i is big. The best tight loosie we have and would’ve been ideal for the physical Boks. The Boks have gone smaller with Kwagga Smith so potentially Papali’i’s loss won’t be as influential. Blackadder off the bench is fantastic.

Jacobson will need to play in tighter to allow Akira space in the outside channels.

Jordan/Bridge/Jordie are all competent fullbacks who are also v.good under high ball so will diffuse Pollard/De Klerk’s kicking game.

@themojoman said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Why so much concern in the papers over loosies, when we should be more worried about props (well, not Moody) and the less experienced midfield?
Not about Bridge of course, I just read that he was athletic. That will be enough...hope JB is retained for kicking duties...

The loss of Papali’i is big. The best tight loosie we have and would’ve been ideal for the physical Boks. The Boks have gone smaller with Kwagga Smith so potentially Papali’i’s loss won’t be as influential. Blackadder off the bench is fantastic.

Jacobson will need to play in tighter to allow Akira space in the outside channels.

Jordan/Bridge/Jordie are all competent fullbacks who are also v.good under high ball so will diffuse Pollard/De Klerk’s kicking game.

I agree, when Cane returns, AB #7 will be a hot topic.

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

I agree, when Cane returns, AB #7 will be a hot topic.

It will be a problem selection, but a nice problem to have.

@victor-meldrew especially since all 3 can play in other loose forward positions!

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@victor-meldrew especially since all 3 can play in other loose forward positions!

Would be quite fun to see how all 3 went together!

@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@victor-meldrew especially since all 3 can play in other loose forward positions!

Would be quite fun to see how all 3 went together!

On a serious note, I wonder how much behind the scenes work Sam Cane is doing with the team. The ABs seem much more together this year, with senior players taking to each other when things aren't going well, minimal panicking when things do go wrong, and new players slotting in seamlessly.

That can't be down to just Foster - though he deserves a lot of credit.

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

3 Barretts starting.

Imagine if it hadn't already happened this season, it might be slightly more exciting

I think it has happened quite a few times but I still go, wow, I remember when it was a bit weird to have two Whetton ABs..

Do Reiko and Akira have a brother ? I hope not cos he’d be feeling all sorts of stink about not playing too.

You mean like the shorter Hemsworth bro actor (Westworld) that nobody ever remembers?!

Reminds me of the classic response to Mark Waugh sledge:"What are you doing out here? You're too s**t to play for England!"

Which got smashed for six with: "Maybe so, but at least I'm the best player in my family".

Worse though, is that there was a third Waugh who only played provincially.

@smuts said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

3 Barretts starting.

Imagine if it hadn't already happened this season, it might be slightly more exciting

I think it has happened quite a few times but I still go, wow, I remember when it was a bit weird to have two Whetton ABs..

Do Reiko and Akira have a brother ? I hope not cos he’d be feeling all sorts of stink about not playing too.

You mean like the shorter Hemsworth bro actor (Westworld) that nobody ever remembers?!

Reminds me of the classic response to Mark Waugh sledge:"What are you doing out here? You're too s**t to play for England!"

Which got smashed for six with: "Maybe so, but at least I'm the best player in my family".

Worse though, is that there was a third Waugh who only played provincially.

I feel for Kane Barrett

@booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@smuts said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

3 Barretts starting.

Imagine if it hadn't already happened this season, it might be slightly more exciting

I think it has happened quite a few times but I still go, wow, I remember when it was a bit weird to have two Whetton ABs..

Do Reiko and Akira have a brother ? I hope not cos he’d be feeling all sorts of stink about not playing too.

You mean like the shorter Hemsworth bro actor (Westworld) that nobody ever remembers?!

Reminds me of the classic response to Mark Waugh sledge:"What are you doing out here? You're too s**t to play for England!"

Which got smashed for six with: "Maybe so, but at least I'm the best player in my family".

Worse though, is that there was a third Waugh who only played provincially.

I feel for Kane Barrett

... and the Blues who signed him.

In fairness, I think Injury was the thing that stopped his career

@booboo I feel more for Blake Barrett.

@smuts said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

3 Barretts starting.

Imagine if it hadn't already happened this season, it might be slightly more exciting

I think it has happened quite a few times but I still go, wow, I remember when it was a bit weird to have two Whetton ABs..

Do Reiko and Akira have a brother ? I hope not cos he’d be feeling all sorts of stink about not playing too.

You mean like the shorter Hemsworth bro actor (Westworld) that nobody ever remembers?!

Reminds me of the classic response to Mark Waugh sledge:"What are you doing out here? You're too s**t to play for England!"

Which got smashed for six with: "Maybe so, but at least I'm the best player in my family".

Worse though, is that there was a third Waugh who only played provincially.

I once read a Lions or Wales player sledged Meads after the AB scrum was demolished on the opposition 5m

"How's that for scrummaging you c*nt"

Meads: "Fucking impressive, but when you've pulled your head out of your arse, you'll see we've just scored"

@booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Can't wait to see how that loose forward trio works together against a bigger Springbok pack.

What?

We're NZ. Bokke, Poms, Lions have bigger forward packs by definition.

Ad an aside, has anyone got size, height, weight stats for us so I don't have to look up myself?

I can remember fairly soon after the 03 wc , we had a series at home against England,

All the talk was how we would go against the BIG English pack ,

When I looked up the stats we were slightly heavier man for man except Kevvie .