@Damo 3 for England 2 for us.

Given we are hell bent on running it from everywhere, losing Woodman was a big blow

@No-Quarter said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

Given we are hell bent on running it from everywhere, losing Woodman was a big blow

Replacement is handy

@No-Quarter said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

Given we are hell bent on running it from everywhere, losing Woodman was a big blow

Double edged sword to some extent, her replacement has gone well (though acknowledging that drop), and the red card does give us extra space. Especially against tiring legs later. Fingers crossed...

@Tordah said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

mauls are a crime against humanity

But part of the laws of Rugby.

@NTA said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

@NTA said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

If England are smart here they'll scrum for penalty

The tap was not the option.

I reckon it was, we just don't expect reliable players like Fitzy to drop it cold. We'd already made more ground than a kick would have and had the England defence fractured.

One technical difference that I've noticed from the men's mauls is that the women don't seem to have their shorts pulled down as much. And until we have equality I am not going to be a fan of the maul in the women's game.

The BFs need to play at the right end of the field to avoid the inevitable.

The crowd sounds very loud.

@Tordah seems more how they are (or aren't in most cases) refereed

@Donsteppa said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

On balance and given the run of play, the Black Ferns should be reasonably happy with this scoreline getting towards halftime. England might start getting a little bit nervous...

I think this is right. England might well blow up.a bit in the last twenty minutes.

45 points in the first half and a converted try the difference.

Crazy stuff.

All those nervous nellies saying we are in for a long night, are choking, overawed - 80 minute game you eggs

We might have a little bit of wind in the second half so if we kick just a little longer this half we can use our pace and interplay to create chances.

Unforced error count by NZ is a little higher than what you'd want in a WC final.

England are extremely ruthless and efficient given they have 14 on the field. Then again, they don't often use the full 15, do they?

By geez this is a bit nerve racking isn't it? Probably need to think a little more/

Yes we are really letting ourselves down in the kicking department.

Watching the halftime try highlights, Jason Ryan would have a lot of work to do with both teams on setting their maul defence....

@nostrildamus said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

Yes we are really letting ourselves down in the kicking department.

Letting ourselves down a shitload more with poor handling. Pop kicks aren't going to be the difference.

@Donsteppa said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

@No-Quarter said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

Given we are hell bent on running it from everywhere, losing Woodman was a big blow

Double edged sword to some extent, her replacement has gone well (though acknowledging that drop), and the red card does give us extra space. Especially against tiring legs later. Fingers crossed...

She may not have the top end speed of Portia, but Ayesha has very quick feet and can change direction.

I am not too unhappy. I think it's pretty close to even Steven's at half time. They up by 7 but down a player. All 3 results possible here.

We do look pretty good with ball in hand. If we can cut the errors we might have this.

We have to keep it close and hope they tire enough in the final 15 to overtake them

@Damo key is stay out of our 22, so that if we do have to kick it out, they won't just maul it over

@ACT-Crusader said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

She may not have the top end speed of Portia, but Ayesha has very quick feet and can change direction.

As long as Leti-I’iga catches the ball.

@Bovidae said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

@ACT-Crusader said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

She may not have the top end speed of Portia, but Ayesha has very quick feet and can change direction.

As long as Leti-I’iga catches the ball.

Stop over analysing and just enjoy it.

@ACT-Crusader said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

45 points in the first half and a converted try the difference.

Crazy stuff.

All those nervous nellies saying we are in for a long night, are choking, overawed - 80 minute game you eggs

We might have a little bit of wind in the second half so if we kick just a little longer this half we can use our pace and interplay to create chances.

Much of that changed when England lost a player. It's a better contest now that we only have to play 14 of theirs.

@gt12 said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

@ACT-Crusader said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

45 points in the first half and a converted try the difference.

Crazy stuff.

All those nervous nellies saying we are in for a long night, are choking, overawed - 80 minute game you eggs

We might have a little bit of wind in the second half so if we kick just a little longer this half we can use our pace and interplay to create chances.

Much of that changed when England lost a player. It's a better contest now that we only have to play 14 of theirs.

We have to hope that 15 v 14 wears them down

@gt12 said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

@ACT-Crusader said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

45 points in the first half and a converted try the difference.

Crazy stuff.

All those nervous nellies saying we are in for a long night, are choking, overawed - 80 minute game you eggs

We might have a little bit of wind in the second half so if we kick just a little longer this half we can use our pace and interplay to create chances.

Much of that changed when England lost a player. It's a better contest now that we only have to play 14 of theirs.

We found space when they had 15. Portia had made a good run prior to the run she got smashed in. Even that run was because we had created space by drawing in the English.

@canefan next 10 will be key, given it looked like we were wanting to run them off tjier feet from the start, with an extra player that should take its toll.

@Frye said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

Unforced error count by NZ is a little higher than what you'd want in a WC final.

As long as you're breaking a proportionate number of tackles it doesn't matter

@NTA said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

@No-Quarter said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

Given we are hell bent on running it from everywhere, losing Woodman was a big blow

Replacement is handy

Very, would have been great to inject her as a super sub as well Woodman

Most likely see another truck load of tries in the second half, defence seems optional by both teams in this one.

@ACT-Crusader said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

@gt12 said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

@ACT-Crusader said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

45 points in the first half and a converted try the difference.

Crazy stuff.

All those nervous nellies saying we are in for a long night, are choking, overawed - 80 minute game you eggs

We might have a little bit of wind in the second half so if we kick just a little longer this half we can use our pace and interplay to create chances.

Much of that changed when England lost a player. It's a better contest now that we only have to play 14 of theirs.

We found space when they had 15. Portia had made a good run prior to the run she got smashed in. Even that run was because we had created space by drawing in the English.

I'm prepared to say we'd be getting smashed if we were playing 15 vs 15 right now.

@Damo said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

I am not too unhappy. I think it's pretty close to even Steven's at half time. They up by 7 but down a player. All 3 results possible here.

We do look pretty good with ball in hand. If we can cut the errors we might have this.

Yeah England fatties are going to be feeling it at 60. Their defence is in shreds already after two phases.

Just have to hope the BFs don't get a red card...

Wow!!!

Holy moly what a try!!!!

Yeeeooowwwww

@gt12 said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

@ACT-Crusader said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

@gt12 said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

@ACT-Crusader said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

45 points in the first half and a converted try the difference.

Crazy stuff.

All those nervous nellies saying we are in for a long night, are choking, overawed - 80 minute game you eggs

We might have a little bit of wind in the second half so if we kick just a little longer this half we can use our pace and interplay to create chances.

Much of that changed when England lost a player. It's a better contest now that we only have to play 14 of theirs.

We found space when they had 15. Portia had made a good run prior to the run she got smashed in. Even that run was because we had created space by drawing in the English.

I'm prepared to say we'd be getting smashed if we were playing 15 vs 15 right now.

We’ve scored 2 maul tries too. Their winger would’ve made little difference.

Are we playing with the wind now?

From the end of the earth

That was beautiful