SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares

@SammyC said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@Hooroo said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@Stargazer said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

Crusaders

1 Joe Moody
2 Codie Taylor
3 Owen Franks
4 Mitchell Dunshea
5 Sam Whitelock (c)
6 Whetukamokamo Douglas
7 Matt Todd (vc)
8 Kieran Read
9 Bryn Hall
10 Richie Mo'unga
11 George Bridge
12 Jack Goodhue
13 Braydon Ennor
14 Sevu Reece
15 David Havili (vc)

Reserves:
16 Andrew Makalio
17 George Bower
18 Michael Alaalatoa
19 Luke Romano
20 Jordan Taufua
21 Mitchell Drummond
22 Mitchell Hunt
23 Will Jordan

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Canterbury by 15? Or maybe the biggest downtrou in Finals history?

I doubt it will be anywhere near as bad as Foster's Chiefs loss to the Bulls in 2009.

Was that 50 points? 60? Hmmm I don't see ArgJags being that rubbish

That Jaguares4life dude has ruined this match for me - before he started trolling like a mad man I would have supported the Jaguares. He’s managed to do on his own what a whole bunch of Irish fans did - make the team less likeable, when its not their fault.

Now I’ll just be a neutral observer in this match.

@Nepia said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

That Jaguares4life dude has ruined this match for me - before he started trolling like a mad man I would have supported the Jaguares. He’s managed to do on his own what a whole bunch of Irish fans did - make the team less likeable, when its not their fault.

Now I’ll just be a neutral observer in this match.

Go the Internet!

@Nepia said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

That Jaguares4life dude has ruined this match for me - before he started trolling like a mad man I would have supported the Jaguares. He’s managed to do on his own what a whole bunch of Irish fans did - make the team less likeable, when its not their fault.

Now I’ll just be a neutral observer in this match.

Looking forward to the WC how much confidence will the Argentine squad get from defeating a AB laden Crusaders in CHCH
Hugh amount so would say may ease some mental doubts come WC time.

@Chris said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

Looking forward to the WC how much confidence will the Argentine squad get from defeating a AB laden Crusaders in CHCH
Hugh amount so would say may ease some mental doubts come WC time.

Fair Dinkum Bloody best team the Crusaders have ever played, ya know!

@Hooroo said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@Chris said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

Looking forward to the WC how much confidence will the Argentine squad get from defeating a AB laden Crusaders in CHCH
Hugh amount so would say may ease some mental doubts come WC time.

Fair Dinkum Bloody best team the Crusaders have ever played, ya know!

can't remember where i heard this, but apparently they completely destroyed teh Hurricanes. At the Caketin no less. While the Crusaders could only sneak past them. At home

#nailedon #cantlose #handthemthetrophynow #dynastystartshere

@mariner4life said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@Hooroo said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@Chris said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

Looking forward to the WC how much confidence will the Argentine squad get from defeating a AB laden Crusaders in CHCH
Hugh amount so would say may ease some mental doubts come WC time.

Fair Dinkum Bloody best team the Crusaders have ever played, ya know!

can't remember where i heard this, but apparently they completely destroyed teh Hurricanes. At the Caketin no less. While the Crusaders could only sneak past them. At home

#nailedon #cantlose #handthemthetrophynow #dynastystartshere

Rubbish Crusaders got smoked by the Chiefs, didn't ya know??? ArgJags Towelled up the Chiefs in BA! Hopeless!

have they arrived in NZ yet or they just rocking into Christchurch Saturday morning, take the late flight home with the extra seat booked?

@Hooroo Ohh yeah I forgot I read that somewhere

@mariner4life Yeah that rings a bell too I also heard that amongst other things from that source

@Hooroo ahh well I won't watch it game over no point

@Chris Shut this thread down its all over Jags are too good bring on the WC, ahh shit we will probably lose that to to the Jags oops Argentina

@Chris thats enough ferning for you, replying to yourself!

@taniwharugby I thought that might get a response

Ohhh Shit can't beat that team game canceled just a Trophy ceremony Saturday night.

It feels like scrum battle is going to be hugely important.

Crusaders look to have a huge edge at scrums on paper but can they make it count? - Brumbies had a big edge last week at scrum time but the way the game went they weren't able to really capatilize.

@KiwiMurph and the saders werent able to make thier scrum advantage count over the canes either...have to think they wont be that poor 2 weeks in a row.

Only 900 tickets left on sale apparently.

@KiwiMurph 800 according Crusaders' instagram (half an hour ago). That's going to be a sell-out and needs to be, given the huge some of money they'll have to pay the Jags just for turning up.

@KiwiMurph said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

It feels like scrum battle is going to be hugely important.

Crusaders look to have a huge edge at scrums on paper but can they make it count? - Brumbies had a big edge last week at scrum time but the way the game went they weren't able to really capatilize.

Scrums will have negligible impact on the game apart from kicking over penalties and for territory

Jaguares have given away ~40 penalties this season at scrum time

It was how the SA sides were able to compete with against Jaguares bit they still lost anyways Brumbies and Chiefs as well in playoffs :smirking_face:

Lineout time is the real battle Petti has most lineout steals in the Comp
Whitelock is also a menace Great battle in store

Saders best chance of winning is a blitz in 1st 30 mins Play with tempo and get a big lead

Jaguares have the fitness to play 80 mins & an equally high quality bench

@KiwiMurph said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

Only 900 tickets left on sale apparently.

Sweet, only half the stadium to sell then

@Jaguares4real I don’t think it will be a blitz in the first 30,finals are normally hard tough scrap for every inch affairs
The Crusaders are in their 3rd in a Row so will be well prepared for the hard slog
Few tries I think and hard fought ones at that

@Chris said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@Jaguares4real I don’t think it will be a blitz in the first 30,finals are normally hard tough scrap for every inch affairs
The Crusaders are in their 3rd in a Row so will be well prepared for the hard slog
Few tries I think and hard fought ones at that

I'd tend to agree

Lions were a very open & loose side who would play from anywhere and everywhere whenever possible

Jagaures will not afford Crusaders any such luxuries They'll kick alot for territory & force mistakes trough linespeed and intensity in defence

Then attack off turnovers & unstructured play through their dangerous outside backs

@Jaguares4real looking at a test match here
The Crusaders will play the same to a certain extent attack up the middle kick for space wether it’s in behind the rush defence or wide to the wingers for space.
And look to move turn over ball quickly into space . Attack the set pieces to assert some pressure.

@Chris said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@Jaguares4real looking at a test match here
The Crusaders will play the same to a certain extent attack up the middle kick for space wether it’s in behind the rush defence or wide to the wingers for space.
And look to move turn over ball quickly into space . Attack the set pieces to assert some pressure.

You might be right I've heard weather conditions could be less than ideal Sat evening come kickoff which would lend to less ball in hand & ball in play overall

That'll suit Jaguares who kick avg of 26 times a games - most in SR

Test Sevu Reece in defence - can be got at if tested

I fancy Jaguares to gain some ascendancy in kicking game Soccer skills come in handy

@mariner4life said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@Hooroo said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@Chris said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

Looking forward to the WC how much confidence will the Argentine squad get from defeating a AB laden Crusaders in CHCH
Hugh amount so would say may ease some mental doubts come WC time.

Fair Dinkum Bloody best team the Crusaders have ever played, ya know!

can't remember where i heard this, but apparently they completely destroyed teh Hurricanes. At the Caketin no less. While the Crusaders could only sneak past them. At home

#nailedon #cantlose #handthemthetrophynow #dynastystartshere

Bro, I’m not even going to watch. I’ll be too busy gearing up for a big Warriors performance against the Newcastle Knights.

@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@Chris said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@Jaguares4real looking at a test match here
The Crusaders will play the same to a certain extent attack up the middle kick for space wether it’s in behind the rush defence or wide to the wingers for space.
And look to move turn over ball quickly into space . Attack the set pieces to assert some pressure.

You might be right I've heard weather conditions could be less than ideal Sat evening come kickoff which would lend to less ball in hand & ball in play overall

That'll suit Jaguares who kick avg of 26 times a games - most in SR

Test Sevu Reece in defence - can be got at if tested

I fancy Jaguares to gain some ascendancy in kicking game Soccer skills come in handy

It's christchurch, of course the weather will be shit.

@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@Chris said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@Jaguares4real looking at a test match here
The Crusaders will play the same to a certain extent attack up the middle kick for space wether it’s in behind the rush defence or wide to the wingers for space.
And look to move turn over ball quickly into space . Attack the set pieces to assert some pressure.

You might be right I've heard weather conditions could be less than ideal Sat evening come kickoff which would lend to less ball in hand & ball in play overall

That'll suit Jaguares who kick avg of 26 times a games - most in SR

Test Sevu Reece in defence - can be got at if tested

I fancy Jaguares to gain some ascendancy in kicking game Soccer skills come in handy

It's terrible today... 6 degrees outside and hosing down.

But latest forecast suggests it will clear before tomorrow night, temperature will still be single figures but hopefully not raining.

Very happy we've sold this one out, when they released ticket prices I was skeptical.

@SammyC

Thanks for the update

Good to see the stadium will be a sell out

I thought it might be a struggle with prices jacked up and a shithole for a stadium

Looking forward to the game

Vamos Jaguares

@SammyC said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

Very happy we've sold this one out, when they released ticket prices I was skeptical.

But will the Crusaders make any money?

The Jaguares and SANZAAR are both paid a fee, and I've read previously that it's better to be playing away in a final (from an economic perspective) if your ground capacity is low.

@Bovidae said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

t it's better to be playing away in a final (from an economic perspective) if your ground capacity is low.

I know Saders have to chip in £125,000 to Jaguares

don't know if it that's £, NZ$

Didn't know they had pony up to SANZAAR as well

If that's true

@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

Irish beat the Kiwis twice in 2 years & are entitled to celebrate

The Irish fans had become unbearable before they beat us.

@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@Nepia said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

That Jaguares4life dude has ruined 

Don;t confuse trolling with a bit of chat and having some fun :face_with_tears_of_joy: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

Not sure he is

@SammyC said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@Chris said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@Jaguares4real looking at a test match here
The Crusaders will play the same to a certain extent attack up the middle kick for space wether it’s in behind the rush defence or wide to the wingers for space.
And look to move turn over ball quickly into space . Attack the set pieces to assert some pressure.

You might be right I've heard weather conditions could be less than ideal Sat evening come kickoff which would lend to less ball in hand & ball in play overall

That'll suit Jaguares who kick avg of 26 times a games - most in SR

Test Sevu Reece in defence - can be got at if tested

I fancy Jaguares to gain some ascendancy in kicking game Soccer skills come in handy

It's terrible today... 6 degrees outside and hosing down.

But latest forecast suggests it will clear before tomorrow night, temperature will still be single figures but hopefully not raining.

Very happy we've sold this one out, when they released ticket prices I was skeptical.

Aah the old southerly front with the ice cold clear air in behind. Kind of miss that weather.

But chilly here at the moment: 20 degs

@booboo fuk I don’t

@Chris said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@booboo fuk I don’t

I can be nostalgic about winter. Haven't had one for 12 years ...

@booboo yeah me too 21 deg where I am nice winters day
Not like -5 CHCH mornings playing at Hagley park on top of the frost as a kid that nice crunchy feeling