World Rugby Board elections

A couple of articles in recent days about the upcoming Beaumont vs Pichot vote to be announced on 12 May. It's been billed as the old guard (read: 6N unions) vs the rest, and where NZ's best interests lie. Graham Henry has come out and stated NZR should support Pichot.

There are 50 votes available and the European bloc has 22 of them so Pichot will need to rely on the SANZAAR unions, tier 2 countries (Canada, Fiji, Samoa, United States and Uruguay) and those from regional associations representing South America, Americas North, Africa, Asia and Oceania.

If you read anything into the nominations deals have already been done, and Fiji look to be in the Beaumont camp.

Chairman
Chairman Sir Bill Beaumont is standing for a second term and has been nominated and proposed by the Fédération Française de Rugby and seconded by the Fiji Rugby Union.

Vice-Chairman Agustín Pichot (Union Argentina de Rugby) was nominated and proposed by Unión Argentina de Rugby and seconded by Rugby Australia and Sudamérica Rugby.

Vice-Chairman
Fédération Française de Rugby President Bernard Laporte has been nominated and proposed by the Rugby Football Union and seconded by Federația Română de Rugby .

It's interesting that Fiji have seconded Bill's nomination. What's improved for them?

I certainly would not be fond of 6N having chair and vice positions.

As soon as Pichot announced his nomination, Beaumont came out with his 'World Rugby Review' manifesto. I think he was expecting an uncontested stroll to the position, either way at least there is competition and he now has to fight for it.

He maybe an annoying little hipster, but WR needs a shake up, so I'd be voting for him too. Sad that there is only one VC nomination, him of the really stupid 'World Club Champs' to make the richest clubs richer, squeezed somewhere into a calendar that is a total mess already

It's about time we had a SH chairman so I hope Pichot gets over the line, however unlikely that is.

@Bovidae said in World Rugby chairman election:

It's about time we had a SH chairman so I hope Pichot gets over the line, however unlikely that is.

Pichot has come across pretty anti NZ so I don’t think we should rely on SH bonding.

@antipodean said in World Rugby chairman election:

It's interesting that Fiji have seconded Bill's nomination. What's improved for them?

I certainly would not be fond of 6N having chair and vice positions.

Look at the nominations, it's all ' you nominate my country man, and I'll nominate yours' RFU doing bills bidding, then part of the deal, to make bill less aNH guy is FRU nominate a Fijian in turn for them seconding bill. Fiji might not even vote for Bill, cos no one knew about Pichot until the last moment. It was a box ticking exercise until t then

@Nepia said in World Rugby chairman election:

@Bovidae said in World Rugby chairman election:

It's about time we had a SH chairman so I hope Pichot gets over the line, however unlikely that is.

Pichot has come across pretty anti NZ so I don’t think we should rely on SH bonding.

That's reflective I think of his pet peeve; migration. Hence why they talk about countries that don't have "foreigners" playing for them.

There's no doubt NZ has benefited from PI migration from the 60s and 70s, and with the schooling scholarships whereas Argentina hasn't had any since Nazis moved in the 40s and 50s....

@antipodean said in World Rugby chairman election:

whereas Argentina hasn't had any since Nazis moved in the 40s and 50s....

Yet we still see the benefits of that, ahem, migration in some the names in the Pumas on occasion.

@Nepia said in World Rugby chairman election:

@Bovidae said in World Rugby chairman election:

It's about time we had a SH chairman so I hope Pichot gets over the line, however unlikely that is.

Pichot has come across pretty anti NZ so I don’t think we should rely on SH bonding.

More about the 3 year residency rule wasn't it?

Getting rid of the grandparent rule would be a good thing as it mainly advantages Scotland, and fuck them!

As @Machpants says, WR needs a revolution and since 1994 we've had a chairman from Wales, Ireland, France and now England.

Will Beaumont follow through with this?

Here's why RA is backing Pichot...

Argentina is pulling out of the race to host the 2027 World Cup in order to help Rugby Australia get back on its feet by landing the sport’s crown jewel, The Daily Telegraph can reveal.

Oooh good deal there, if only RA had a competent CEO to negotiate such a plum deal

@Bovidae Does make me laugh, with all those players listed, most of them weren't born in the Islands and are relying on eligibility rules.

@Machpants It would be more 50/50 I think but I also see the irony.

A player like Fifita wasn't mentioned in the article, but he would do more for Tonga than be a squad member in the ABs (at best).

havent they had this conversation before and got poo-poo'd?

Yup it says that in the article, NZ and Oz sponsored it recently, and it was out voted by NH unions. True article also said it is just a look at, not ap promise of change.

As to Fafita, I'm sure there will be a stand down period, of a year or two, if it's the same as there old proposal.

I'd say Argentina helping Australia by withdrawing its bid is an outcome rather than intent. It was reported months ago that Australia was considered to have the strongest bid. The question will be will South Africa as current champions also bid considering Australia gets to host the Lions in 2025 (presuming no new virus....)

Not self-nominating for stuck record on this point either; but the unintended consequence of permitting players to put off playing for tier two nations in the hope of making a tier one team would be catastrophic.

@antipodean said in World Rugby chairman election:

I'd say Argentina helping Australia by withdrawing its bid is an outcome rather than intent. It was reported months ago that Australia was considered to have the strongest bid. The question will be will South Africa as current champions also bid considering Australia gets to host the Lions in 2025 (presuming no new virus....)

Not self-nominating for stuck record on this point either; but the unintended consequence of permitting players to put off playing for tier two nations in the hope of making a tier one team would be catastrophic.

You'd almost have to say it should be both ways, but then again even if it was legal I couldn't see the ABs picking someone who is already played for an Island team - would not be a could publicity look! I don;t know if 'would' be catastrophic, but could be. Point is players already hold off, so will it make them hold off longer or more often? Dunno.

Ugh nothing like a bit of corruption and nepotism to really help stink the place up

@Machpants said in World Rugby chairman election:

Ugh nothing like a bit of corruption and nepotism to really help stink the place up

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