@gt12 said in NFL Season 2020/21:
If you had to choose one player, in their sport, to play for your life (e.g., Steph Curry to shoot for 3; MJ to score in the last 30; Wilkinson to land a dropkick), it would be very hard to go past Brady and Superbowl.
Is he the best professional sports player, ever? [Even if the doesn't win today?]
This will be the topic on sports talk shows for the next week.
All about narratives.
@KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:
Is it just me or does Mahomes look like he is still carrying an injury? Doesn't look to have his usual mobility.
so many drops from his receivers. Nt sure they'd win, but goddamn they'd be in the game right now
@KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:
@nzzp their offensive line have been absolutely destroyed too - he's running for his life.
spot on.
Throws have generally been good - just not connecting or getting rythmn.
Amazing from Brady. At 43 in this league to put up that quality of performance AGAIN - you just have to congratulate him and marvel at it. Still annoying though, fuck TB12 
Huge lesson for Mahomes and the Chiefs offensive line tonight.
Bucs really didn’t have to do anything special in offence and just let Brady and Fournette do their thing.
Pretty impressive Bucs defence. Bowles will likely be a red hot candidate in the 2022 HC cycle. The question is does he move on, or wait to take over from Arians.
The sensible thing would be to find a good landing spot and move, this Bucs team is 100% win now and will almost certainly need a major rebuild in the next couple of years. It would probably be a repeat of his Jets experience. But HC roles normally become vacant for a reason, so starting in an environment where people know you and have confidence in you might be a good choice.
I liked him when he was HC at the Jets. Some of the issues were definitely on him (game management, and adjusting from running the defence to being the 'CEO') but there was also an awful front office situation and he never really had the talent to be genuinely competitive. I'm hoping that he'll have a successful second stint, landing in a slightly better spot and learning from his mistakes at the Jets.
That’s my first super bowl since the last Super Bowl was on Waitangi Day. That was wicked.
43 fucking years old.
Superbowl MVP at 43.
Seven rings - is that more than any other team? (Edit: Yes)
Talk about high fucking standards.
@KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:
@nzzp their offensive line have been absolutely destroyed too - he's running for his life.
Made the same comment to some mates, its like a Benny Hill sketch watching him run away 40m backwards!!!
@gt12 said in NFL Season 2020/21:
Superbowl MVP at 43.
Seven rings - is that more than any other team? (Edit: Yes)
Talk about high fucking standards.
Not a bad effort considering how in demand he was two decades ago in the draft.
@antipodean said in NFL Season 2020/21:
@gt12 said in NFL Season 2020/21:
Superbowl MVP at 43.
Seven rings - is that more than any other team? (Edit: Yes)
Talk about high fucking standards.
Not a bad effort considering how in demand he was two decades ago in the draft.
Goes to show how much of a crap shoot drafting players is. But his lower position helped him land with a great team with time to learn under a great coach. Does he realise his potential if he gets drafted higher to a poor team? No one will ever know. He commented often over the years that his pick position helped drive him, and I guess it is almost impossible to assess how much will, heart and guts a guy has
A disappointing game as a neutral but credit to the Bucs defensive unit. They won them the game.
@Bovidae said in NFL Season 2020/21:
A disappointing game as a neutral
I thought it was boring as batshit. Decided not to continue having it on in the background after halftime.
@canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21:
@antipodean said in NFL Season 2020/21:
@gt12 said in NFL Season 2020/21:
Superbowl MVP at 43.
Seven rings - is that more than any other team? (Edit: Yes)
Talk about high fucking standards.
Not a bad effort considering how in demand he was two decades ago in the draft.
Goes to show how much of a crap shoot drafting players is. But his lower position helped him land with a great team with time to learn under a great coach. Does he realise his potential if he gets drafted higher to a poor team? No one will ever know. He commented often over the years that his pick position helped drive him, and I guess it is almost impossible to assess how much will, heart and guts a guy has
Brady is an insane combination of a guy with great talent, a massive chip on his shoulder driving him to succeed and keep succeeding, the confidence in himself to take below market deals knowing that success will pay off, and one of the all time greatest head coaches who was particularly brilliant at building defences from undervalued players meaning there was plenty of money to put into the offence. Having Gronk take a long term deal with a bit of a discount early because of his injury concerns, and then being relatively fit for his career helped too.
It's a perfect storm. I don't see anyone else ever coming close.
@antipodean said in NFL Season 2020/21:
@Bovidae said in NFL Season 2020/21:
A disappointing game as a neutral
I thought it was boring as batshit. Decided not to continue having it on in the background after halftime.
I was trying not to be too negative. 
I also watched with a Bucs supporter (from Tampa).
Watched it for the first time in years. Absolutely loved it, it's great sport.
Going to start a thread on what NFL has gotten right since I last watched it, which is in direct contrast as to what international rugby has gotten completely wrong.
Afer a weekend of 6N rugby and then that to finish off ... I've got some thoughts to share!
As one sided a superbowl as I can remember
Brady is the goatiest goat who ever goated. What a fucking player. He owned that field today.
As good as the Buccs offence was, the winning of the game was the discipline of the Buccs defence, and how porous the Chiefs o-line was. Mahomes was under pressure every single snap, as the pocket collapsed, or white jerseys were just pouring through.
The Chiefs offered nothing because they were constantly under pressure on both sides of the ball. Great performance from Tampa.
Fucking Brady is a deadset marvel.
@antipodean said in NFL Season 2020/21:
@nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21:
KC getting killed by cheap penalties. Costing them big time.
I like seeing poor disciplined teams losing.
Imagine being selected in the NFL for your ability to kick and being as bad as the KC kicker.
It may be a distinct lack of practice.
I heard a stat that up until the Bill's game 2 weeks ago the Chiefs hadn't punted since last year's conference championship.
and now, Russell Wilson unhappy at the Seahawks and wants out rumours start.
Open season on the QB market!
@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21:
Open season on the QB market!
The whole Dak Prescott thing just heated up with some strong comments from Troy Aikman.
@ACT-Crusader said in NFL Season 2020/21:
@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21:
Open season on the QB market!
The whole Dak Prescott thing just heated up with some strong comments from Troy Aikman.
missed that. what has Troy said?
7 days later
Wentz to the Colts for a third this year and a conditional first next year. (Wentz needs to start 75% or 70% plus Colts make the playoffs)
Eagles take the biggest dead money cap hit in NFL history, Wentz is reunited with Frank Reich.
@cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21:
Eagles take the biggest dead money cap hit in NFL history, Wentz is reunited with Frank Reich.
Eagles show that QB economics in the NFL are farked, and that it's a total punt
If Wentz can produce an a reasonable level this is going to be a good deal for the Colts. His cap hits will be around the 25m mark forthe next 4 years which is expensive but lower end for a starting qb.
To clarify my post before, if he doesn't hit those targets then the Colts send a second round pick, so the cheapest he could be is a second and a third.
The Colts are in a great position to make a run over the next few years.
It's going to be interesting to see what Philly do in the draft now - they have the 6th pick - do they go QB? If not, they could be a perfect spot for someone to trade up.
Yeah, the reports are that they want someone to compete with Hurts but whether that's a rookie or a veteran remains to be seen.
Could depend on how the draft falls. They might have one of the qbs that they love and will otherwise try to trade down.
Adam Schefter put the over/under for qb changes this off season at 18. This puts us at 4 so far and the new league year hasn't even officially started.
11 days later
@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21:
JJ Watt to the Cardinals on decent money.
Not what I expected, that is a tough division if he wants to win. But its nice and warm there
@canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21:
@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21:
JJ Watt to the Cardinals on decent money.
Not what I expected, that is a tough division if he wants to win. But its nice and warm there
i just realised all the pass rushers Wilson has to face in that division. Might really push for a move now? Purely for health reasons?
Welcome to The Valley, JJ Watt. It's a pity my only allegiance to Arizona is with the Suns because the Cardinals should be a really sticky watch next season.
Quite amazing how many big names have been traded or signed to NFC West in recent years.
Jamal Adams, Jalen Ramsey, Stafford, Hopkins, Trent Williams, JJ Watt
Dak Prescott saga is finally over.
Enormous 4 year contract extension with the Dallas Cowboys.
Dak won this negotiation.
Talk about making bank.
@kiwimurph that's ridiculous
QB economics do not make any sense, so there is no point trying to rationalise any transfer discussions.
@mariner4life This is one of the reasons why QBs are so sought after in the Draft - first rounders have a 5 year contract (well 4 + a team option year) of relatively low cost.
That is a super back loaded contract. Year 5 he'll count 13.5m against the cap, despite his contract ending after 4 years.
But with the cap coming down, probably a lot, this year it makes sense. Cap hit this year will be a bit over 22m. Next year will be a 33m hit and they'll be praying that league revenues bounce back big time. The 40m hits in 23 and 24 will hurt, but will be prime candidates for a restructure, pushing even more money to those voidable years. Cowboys have thought ahead on that one - the contract is 6 years (last 2 voiding) even though the max proration period is 5 years, clearly expecting to want to convert salary to roster bonus in the future.
Honestly, I don't think this is a terrible deal for the cowboys. As long as Dak comes back from injury 100% and the league revenues recover next year this contract is probably a narrow win for the cowboys.
The Seahawks Russell Wilson phoney war continues. Russ says he doesn't want to be traded, but provides a list of teams he is willing to be traded to. And the Hawks send the season ticket holders a letter talking about next season and there is no mention of Wilson. I know it will never happen, but you are welcome in SF Russ, and we can offer you better protection than Seattle
@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21:
As expected, Drew Brees retires
Prudent. His arm was shot. Thomas will be happy. So will they get Russell Wilson?
