Ultimate NPC: - Northland

Someone to kick this off please

Just a quick one, I'll probably amend the more I think about it

A couple have made it basedon how good they ended up, rather than what they did when wearing Cambridge Blue, and 1 based on potential.

Con Barrell, Derren Whitcome, Stan Wright
Ian Jones, Glenn Taylor
Tom Robinson, Brett Waaka Peter Jones, Justin Collins
Sid Going, David Holwell
Norm Berryman, Rene Ranger
Fred Woodman, Warren Johnstone, Rupeni Caucau

I could play around with team to add Norm Maxwell (move Taylor to 6 ahead of Robinson, even though Maxwell and Robinson are quite alike)

I'd love to find aplace for Fero Lasigibivau too

1 Con Barrell
2 Derren Witcombe
3
4 Ian Jones
5 Norm Maxwell
6 Glenn Taylor
7 Gus Collins
8
9 Sid Going
10 David Holwell
11 Rupeni Caucaunibuca
12 Jack Goodhue
13 Norm Berryman
14 Rene Ranger
15 Warren Johnstone

A few of names off the top of my head that would be in the conversation:

Joe Morgan
Mose Tuiali'i
Peter Jones
Richie Guy
Ziggy Seymour
Ian Dunn
Eddie Dunn
Jared Payne

@Gunner
Peter Sloane, Joe Veitiayaki another couple

I had edited my team to include Peter Jones

Here is a list of all of our All Blacks, who would all have to be considered.
Never heard of some of the older ones, so couldn't tell you their positions.

Jack Goodhue
Rene Ranger
Norm Berryman
Glenn Taylor
Ian Jones
Ian Dunn
Alastair Robinson
Kawhena Woodman
Michael Speight
Fred Woodman
Wayne Neville
Mike Burgoyne
Eddie Dunn
Ken Going
Sid Going
Richie Guy
Bevan Holmes
Murray Jones
Joe Morgan
Hamish Macdonald
Peter Sloane
Victor Yates
Ian Irvine
Peter Jones
Des Webb
Nau Cherrington
Johnny Smith
Peter Smith​​​
Innes-Bunny Finlayson
Charlie Fletcher
Bill Heke
Alf Waterman

@taniwharugby Are you related to Robinson? Surely he's too early in his career to seriously be in contention for this team and Taylor would have that locked up?

@Nepia I did qualify a couple of selections, he was there on potential, Whitcombe only played 20 times for us, Stan Wright only stepped up after he left here...I'd probably have Maxwell at 6 instead of at lock, Jones and Maxwell locking, way too lightweight.

Admittedly I blanked on Maxwell when listing the team too.

Bryce Williams is another to consider at lock, he went close to NZ A

@taniwharugby said in Ultimate NPC: - Northland:

@Nepia I did qualify a couple of selections, he was there on potential, Whitcombe only played 20 times for us, Stan Wright only stepped up after he left here...I'd probably have Maxwell at 6 instead of at lock, Jones and Maxwell locking, way too lightweight.

Bryce Williams is another to consider at lock, he went close to NZ A

Sheesh, I'd forgotten about Williams. Surely if you have Taylor at 6 it wouldn't matter having the relatively lightweight locks?

@Nepia Jones and Maxwell wouldnt be relative lightweight, they would be lightweight, be easier to have Taylor at lock and move Maxwell to 6

@taniwharugby said in Ultimate NPC: - Northland:

@Nepia Jones and Maxwell wouldnt be relative lightweight, they would be lightweight, be easier to have Taylor at lock and move Maxwell or Williams.

Oh you mean pushing in the scrums? I was just meaning if you have all three on the field they'll do the job and Taylor at 6 helps balance that lightweightness out.

@taniwharugby said in Ultimate NPC: - Northland:

Jones and Maxwell wouldnt be relative lightweight, they would be lightweight, be easier to have Taylor at lock and move Maxwell to 6

Yeah I just went for Taylor at six because that's where he made the AB's. The best locking combo is Jones/Taylor

If Maxwell isn't in the best two locks then you could argue he misses out to Robinson

@Duluth said in Ultimate NPC: - Northland:

@taniwharugby said in Ultimate NPC: - Northland:

Jones and Maxwell wouldnt be relative lightweight, they would be lightweight, be easier to have Taylor at lock and move Maxwell to 6

Yeah I just went for Taylor at six because that's where he made the AB's. The best locking combo is Jones/Taylor

If Maxwell isn't in the best two locks then you could argue he misses out to Robinson

Maxwell is easily in the best two locks (without weight qualifiers).

yeah Jones is an auto selection, but I think if you were wanting a player to play today, he wouldnt be it (size, way he played, lifting v jumping) Maxwell (very much how Robinson plays with total disregard for his own body) or Williams to line up alongside Taylor...but then it comes back to comparing players form different eras

I'll give it a nudge

1. Con Barrell

2. Peter Sloane

3. Richie Guy

4. Ian Jones

5. Norm Maxwell

6. Glenn Taylor

7. Innes 'Bunny' Finlayson

8. Peter Jones

9. Super Sid

10. Eddie Dunn

11. Rupeni Caucaunibuca

12. Joe Morgan

13. Jack Goodhue

14. Rene Ranger

15. Warren Johnstone

16. Derren Witcombe

17. Nick White

18. Hamish MacDonald

19. Justin Collins

20. Tane Takalua (Sam Nock might overtake him, but hasn't yet IMO)

21. Ian Dunn

22. Norm Berryman

@Gunner I'd be going some shoehorning to get Berryman into the 1st 15.

@taniwharugby thought about putting him at fullback, pretty sure he played the odd game there. But then I couldn't go past 'The Boot'.

It's a 22 man game these days anyway

Like @Gunner I'd go for Peter Sloane instead of Whitcombe. Kahu Sutherland or Bill LeClerc at Prop ahead of Wright?

@JC yeah as I said, Wright made my team based on his post-Northland performances, Whitcombe largely too, so sliding them out wont be an issue for my team.

@Gunner Berryman played 13 too, so shuffle Goodhue in, but then it was his combo with Jason Hita that made it work there, the WAATZ brothers I think they were?

@taniwharugby Joe Morgan stays ahead of Berryman for me. I didn't see him play, so that is based on being the highest capped Taniwha (I think), and also more games in black.