@bayimports said in EPL 2020/2021:
@dogmeat given loss of some key players, change of coach (beginning of season and half way through season) and we have not shown any consistency over our last few, we are hardly favourites. But in playoffs anything can happen.
quite an interesting stat though, would not have picked that
Did Eddie Howe leave?
@bayimports said in EPL 2020/2021:
@canefan yes at end of last season (he stepped down) and then Tindall got the boot not too long ago and Jonathon Woodgate took over for remainder of the season
Wiki says Howe is not managing right now. I thought he was pretty good
@canefan said in EPL 2020/2021:
@bayimports said in EPL 2020/2021:
@canefan yes at end of last season (he stepped down) and then Tindall got the boot not too long ago and Jonathon Woodgate took over for remainder of the season
Wiki says Howe is not managing right now. I thought he was pretty good
he was in talks with Celtic but not sure what came of it
@bayimports I've known you a long time and never knew you were a Bournemouth fan - there aren't many of them!
Danjuma seems to have sparked them to life this season {checks online} 15 goals this season as a winger is pretty impressive. And even losing Wilson and Fraser (Dad's Army), they still have a squad full of talent. I really rate David Brooks and they missed his craft when he was injured for most of last season.
Well deserved title for City - once they sorted out their defensive structure, they have looked much more consistent that any other team in a season where strong teams have dropped games unexpectedly all season. The crammed fixture list was always likely to favour a team with strong replacements in every position.
@kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:
@bayimports I've known you a long time and never knew you were a Bournemouth fan - there aren't many of them!
Danjuma seems to have sparked them to life this season {checks online} 15 goals this season as a winger is pretty impressive. And even losing Wilson and Fraser (Dad's Army), they still have a squad full of talent. I really rate David Brooks and they missed his craft when he was injured for most of last season.
Most of that time we were lurking at the bottom of league 2, hardly a great endorsement 
Years ago when I lived in the UK for a year, it was the closest city (Poole didnt count) . So I supported locally.
Both were losses, as was Josh King and Harry Wilson (we had his as a loan).. but we have won 7 from 10, as that reads better than lost last 2. Danjuma has been impressive and we have a very young team now. One of those teams taht when you get momentum, the heads are up, but as soon as you get behind it is hard to keep them focused. Still we are in with a shout.
Not EPL but ...
Ajax have melted down their Eredivisie trophy into 42,000 silver stars and are giving one to every season ticket holder as they couldn't attend matches this season.
Yes its marketing but it's still pretty cool. Edwin van der Sar Ajax CEO (learned everything at Fulham) said "Previously when we said this title is for you we were expressing how we were doing it for the fans. However sharing the trophy is the ultimate proof that we really are".
@dogmeat said in EPL 2020/2021:
Not EPL but ...
Ajax have melted down their Eredivisie trophy into 42,000 silver stars and are giving one to every season ticket holder as they couldn't attend matches this season.
Yes its marketing but it's still pretty cool. Edwin van der Sar Ajax CEO (learned everything at Fulham) said "Previously when we said this title is for you we were expressing how we were doing it for the fans. However sharing the trophy is the ultimate proof that we really are".
I read that. All class. They win a lot of them so there are plenty to go around, but still
@bayimports Thanks for the back story - yes you can't be accused of being a glory hunter given Bournemouth's traditional obscurity. It must have been a great ride as they ascended the pyramid to reach the premier league (and then survived). My sister is in Dorchester so I know the area fairly well. All the best for the play-offs but if you do come up, you're my favourites to go straight back down again!
@mariner4life @KiwiPie that was brutal lol
@mariner4life said in EPL 2020/2021:
well, that's that.
Well done City, amazing team.
Man U resting players ahead of a tough run of games (caused in part by idiot supporters) gives Leicester a top 4 spot. And that's all she wrote for the league season really. Champs done. Relegation done. Top 4 done.
Cups the only thing to play for
City v Chelsea for the Premier League next year could be quite something.
By christ didn't that team of ours shit the bed after being champs? ( hi majorage 
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@siam said in EPL 2020/2021:
@mariner4life said in EPL 2020/2021:
well, that's that.
Well done City, amazing team.
Man U resting players ahead of a tough run of games (caused in part by idiot supporters) gives Leicester a top 4 spot. And that's all she wrote for the league season really. Champs done. Relegation done. Top 4 done.
Cups the only thing to play for
City v Chelsea for the Premier League next year could be quite something.
By christ didn't that team of ours shit the bed after being champs? ( hi majorage
Liverpool were various shades of average all year. And look in need of a freshen up (and i don't mean a rest)
City will probably just go and buy Mbappe and some other fucking superstar anyway. I would imagine Chelsea are in the market for a gun striker as well.
Kane needs to move somewhere. City is as good a place as any if Pep doesn't stick with playing a false 9.
@bovidae said in EPL 2020/2021:
Kane needs to move somewhere. City is as good a place as any if Pep doesn't stick with playing a false 9.
If he left I couldn't blame him. We wasted an amazing statistical season from him and Son Heung Min. All those goals and assists, and we can't even challenge for the top 4
@siam said in EPL 2020/2021:
@mariner4life said in EPL 2020/2021:
well, that's that.
Well done City, amazing team.
Man U resting players ahead of a tough run of games (caused in part by idiot supporters) gives Leicester a top 4 spot. And that's all she wrote for the league season really. Champs done. Relegation done. Top 4 done.
Cups the only thing to play for
City v Chelsea for the Premier League next year could be quite something.
By christ didn't that team of ours shit the bed after being champs? ( hi majorage
It was proven how much they were reliant on Van Dijk in my view. That doesn't really explain why the strikers forgot to score goals, granted, but scoring goals is a confidence thing.
City didn't so much win the title this year as be the team that managed to not completely fall apart at some stage. That's not a slight on them, it's just way the EPL played out this (strange) season.
I think if crowds had been allowed, its' likely they still would have won, although you'd see Liverpool, United, Spurs & Arsenal with significantly higher points. The latter two wouldn't be fighting for the trophy though as they simply aren't good enough. Chelsea probably not much change, although perhaps the squad under Frank would have felt more how much he means the club and might have tried just that little bit harder. Who knows.
weren't Liverpool top at Xmas and I seem to remember people were writing Pep's obituaries in about October.
Vity won because they had the best squad which became crucial in such a busy year wih no off season. Pep seemed to have lost the dressing room earlkier in the season but relaxed and allowed the rest of the coaching team to have more say and the players found their mojo.
Plus Fulham were robbed
@dogmeat said in EPL 2020/2021:
weren't Liverpool top at Xmas and I seem to remember people were writing Pep's obituaries in about October.
i wouldn't have thought so, Liverpool had fallen apart well before then
But yes, at the start of the season City were mid-table and everyone was calling them finished. They then went on one of those long strings of winning they tend to do and just moved past everyone
kinda surprised by the result this morning. Changes absolutely nothing for either team though.
@dogmeat said in EPL 2020/2021:
weren't Liverpool top at Xmas and I seem to remember people were writing Pep's obituaries in about October.
Vity won because they had the best squad which became crucial in such a busy year wih no off season. Pep seemed to have lost the dressing room earlkier in the season but relaxed and allowed the rest of the coaching team to have more say and the players found their mojo.
Plus Fulham were robbed
I think Spurs were on top at Xmas, then we fell apart
@mariner4life Found it Liverpool were 4 points clear at Xmas
Hilarious article with hindsight - Liverpool looking ominous - who can stop them - best depth in league
Article does say that only 3 times in 12 seasons had the team that was top at Xmas not won the league and that on all three occasions it was Liverpool. Make that 4/13 now. Not a record you'd want!
@dogmeat said in EPL 2020/2021:
@mariner4life Found it Liverpool were 4 points clear at Xmas
Hilarious article with hindsight - Liverpool looking ominous - who can stop them - best depth in league
Article does say that only 3 times in 12 seasons had the team that was top at Xmas not won the league and that on all three occasions it was Liverpool. Make that 4/13 now. Not a record you'd want!
well how about that! 2021 must have sucked!
@dogmeat said in EPL 2020/2021:
@mariner4life Found it Liverpool were 4 points clear at Xmas
Hilarious article with hindsight - Liverpool looking ominous - who can stop them - best depth in league
Article does say that only 3 times in 12 seasons had the team that was top at Xmas not won the league and that on all three occasions it was Liverpool. Make that 4/13 now. Not a record you'd want!
The whole season was skewed because of the late start so being top at Christmas was not the same as being top at halfway which it usually is.
This article from 22 Dec https://www.si.com/soccer/2020/12/22/premier-league-festive-season-table-liverpool-tottenham-man-united didn't even mention City. And this article https://www.givemesport.com/1631326-premier-league-supercomputer-has-predicted-the-final-league-table-based-on-christmas-standings has an outstanding "SUPERCOMPUTER" prediction.
@bayimports I think they assumed that form up to that point would continue afterwards!
Prediction is on the right hand side so they've actually picked them to finish ahead of arsenal
@cyclops said in EPL 2020/2021:
Prediction is on the right hand side so they've actually picked them to finish ahead of arsenal
ha ha my bad.. good spotting its clearly farked
@bovidae said in EPL 2020/2021:
Kane needs to move somewhere. City is as good a place as any if Pep doesn't stick with playing a false 9.
I think he would be perfect for City because he isn't just a goal hanger. They would be able to play off him and his passing is good enough to put players in.
So given that Champion's League qualification is worth so much cash and both Leicester and Chelsea have Liverpool breathing down their necks, is there a chance they will both play the FA Cup final with an eye to having their strongest side fresh for their EPL clash 3 days later?
@kiwipie
Yeah, I think they have to. Liverpool look like favourites to finish top 4 if they can win out (which isn't a gimme, but all their games are winnable and none of their opponents have relegation or European implications), with Leicester better off with a draw.
I guess Chelsea also have the champions league to hope for. Would be a bitter pill to win FA cup but then lose top 4 and champions league final and be in Europa next year.
Gee. I know he was an offside but it’s an inch. In terms of football I don’t think we need that level of accuracy.
Stoked for Leicester all the same.
@hooroo said in EPL 2020/2021:
Gee. I know he was an offside but it’s an inch. In terms of football I don’t think we need that level of accuracy.
Stoked for Leicester all the same.
I think VAR needs to give some leniency to the attacker. Harry Kane got one disallowed last week because his toe might have been over the line
@hooroo said in EPL 2020/2021:
Stoked for Leicester all the same.
Me too. A couple of great saves from Schmeichel at the end.
I always like to see a team win a trophy for the first time. They had lost in the FA Cup final four times previously.
@bovidae said in EPL 2020/2021:
@hooroo said in EPL 2020/2021:
Stoked for Leicester all the same.
Me too. A couple of great saves from Schmeichel at the end.
I always like to see a team win a trophy for the first time. They had lost in the FA Cup final four times previously.
Fully and you can see it still means something. I forgot it was on and just happened to catch it while channel surfing. Thank fuck.
@hooroo said in EPL 2020/2021:
@bovidae said in EPL 2020/2021:
@hooroo said in EPL 2020/2021:
Stoked for Leicester all the same.
Me too. A couple of great saves from Schmeichel at the end.
I always like to see a team win a trophy for the first time. They had lost in the FA Cup final four times previously.
Fully and you can see it still means something. I forgot it was on and just happened to catch it while channel surfing. Thank fuck.
It's been an emotional day. Watching the basketball HoF induction ceremony had me misty eyed for ages, there were some feel good stories on the news including a former con who ran an ultramarathon to raise money for kids in Huntly who has now inspired some of the kids to run events, and a guy on the spectrum who has developed people skills and personal growth after starting as the waterboy for the Hutt Valley High first 15 who is now the full time manager and an inspiration to the school. And finally they showed an old guy Leicester supporter being interviewed outside Wembley before the final who couldn't even get words out without breaking down 
Five massive talking points after that final.
A great goal from Tielemans. Almost the perfect shot from that distance.
Superb save by Kasper Schmeichel. One of great FA Cup final saves.
A very controversial VAR decision to deny Chelsea an equaliser. Surely the technology should only intervene if there is a clear and obvious mistake by the on-field officials? Harsh decision IMHO.
First time winners after 4 losing finals. Leicester City fans clearly felt an enormous monkey had come off their backs. Interesting to see where their club goes from here.
Brendan Rogers has established himself as one of the very best managers in the game. Still only 48. I think a lot of big clubs will chasing his services.
@hooroo said in EPL 2020/2021:
@bovidae said in EPL 2020/2021:
@hooroo said in EPL 2020/2021:
Stoked for Leicester all the same.
Me too. A couple of great saves from Schmeichel at the end.
I always like to see a team win a trophy for the first time. They had lost in the FA Cup final four times previously.
Fully and you can see it still means something. I forgot it was on and just happened to catch it while channel surfing. Thank fuck.
Yeah, it's nice to see that "The Magic of the Cup" still exists for some teams.
@sparky said in EPL 2020/2021:
- A very controversial VAR decision to deny Chelsea an equaliser. Surely the technology should only intervene if there is a clear and obvious mistake by the on-field officials? Harsh decision IMHO.
As controversial VAR decisions go this season, that one was a but ho hum, first time they showed it, you knew it would be given. Offside has not had clear and obvious applied to it - just coloured lines. I think there are too many inaccuracies in play for them to be measuring to that level - for example, it is impossible to select the exact moment the pass was played. You are actually selecting the frame closest to the pass. Switch it one frame and the offside can look very different. As such they should have a "too close to call" rule on any decision within a certain range rather than measuring some guy's armpit against another guy's testicles.
Having said that, great to see Leicester win the game. Chelsea totally dominated the first half without ever looking like scoring - that is their main problem right now, toothless unless playing against a high line.
For the famous save, you have to see it in real time to get the full effect. Mount connected with it so well and to get down to it and push it away was amazing.
@kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:
As controversial VAR decisions go this season, that one was a but ho hum, first time they showed it, you knew it would be given. Offside has not had clear and obvious applied to it - just coloured lines. I think there are too many inaccuracies in play for them to be measuring to that level - for example, it is impossible to select the exact moment the pass was played. You are actually selecting the frame closest to the pass. Switch it one frame and the offside can look very different. As such they should have a "too close to call" rule on any decision within a certain range rather than measuring some guy's armpit against another guy's testicles.
Absolutely the tolerance levels they apply to the decisions are far too strict. You shouldn't give an offside on the evidence that the tip of a player's foot or hand crossed the line
