EPL 2020/2021

canefan

@hooroo said in EPL 2020/2021:

Gee. I know he was an offside but it’s an inch. In terms of football I don’t think we need that level of accuracy.

Stoked for Leicester all the same.

I think VAR needs to give some leniency to the attacker. Harry Kane got one disallowed last week because his toe might have been over the line

Bovidae

@hooroo said in EPL 2020/2021:

Stoked for Leicester all the same.

Me too. A couple of great saves from Schmeichel at the end.

I always like to see a team win a trophy for the first time. They had lost in the FA Cup final four times previously.

Hooroo

@bovidae said in EPL 2020/2021:

@hooroo said in EPL 2020/2021:

Stoked for Leicester all the same.

Me too. A couple of great saves from Schmeichel at the end.

I always like to see a team win a trophy for the first time. They had lost in the FA Cup final four times previously.

Fully and you can see it still means something. I forgot it was on and just happened to catch it while channel surfing. Thank fuck.

canefan

@hooroo said in EPL 2020/2021:

@bovidae said in EPL 2020/2021:

@hooroo said in EPL 2020/2021:

Stoked for Leicester all the same.

Me too. A couple of great saves from Schmeichel at the end.

I always like to see a team win a trophy for the first time. They had lost in the FA Cup final four times previously.

Fully and you can see it still means something. I forgot it was on and just happened to catch it while channel surfing. Thank fuck.

It's been an emotional day. Watching the basketball HoF induction ceremony had me misty eyed for ages, there were some feel good stories on the news including a former con who ran an ultramarathon to raise money for kids in Huntly who has now inspired some of the kids to run events, and a guy on the spectrum who has developed people skills and personal growth after starting as the waterboy for the Hutt Valley High first 15 who is now the full time manager and an inspiration to the school. And finally they showed an old guy Leicester supporter being interviewed outside Wembley before the final who couldn't even get words out without breaking down 😭

sparky

Five massive talking points after that final.

  1. A great goal from Tielemans. Almost the perfect shot from that distance.

  2. Superb save by Kasper Schmeichel. One of great FA Cup final saves.

  3. A very controversial VAR decision to deny Chelsea an equaliser. Surely the technology should only intervene if there is a clear and obvious mistake by the on-field officials? Harsh decision IMHO.

  4. First time winners after 4 losing finals. Leicester City fans clearly felt an enormous monkey had come off their backs. Interesting to see where their club goes from here.

  5. Brendan Rogers has established himself as one of the very best managers in the game. Still only 48. I think a lot of big clubs will chasing his services.

junior

@hooroo said in EPL 2020/2021:

@bovidae said in EPL 2020/2021:

@hooroo said in EPL 2020/2021:

Stoked for Leicester all the same.

Me too. A couple of great saves from Schmeichel at the end.

I always like to see a team win a trophy for the first time. They had lost in the FA Cup final four times previously.

Fully and you can see it still means something. I forgot it was on and just happened to catch it while channel surfing. Thank fuck.

Yeah, it's nice to see that "The Magic of the Cup" still exists for some teams.

KiwiPie

@sparky said in EPL 2020/2021:

  1. A very controversial VAR decision to deny Chelsea an equaliser. Surely the technology should only intervene if there is a clear and obvious mistake by the on-field officials? Harsh decision IMHO.

As controversial VAR decisions go this season, that one was a but ho hum, first time they showed it, you knew it would be given. Offside has not had clear and obvious applied to it - just coloured lines. I think there are too many inaccuracies in play for them to be measuring to that level - for example, it is impossible to select the exact moment the pass was played. You are actually selecting the frame closest to the pass. Switch it one frame and the offside can look very different. As such they should have a "too close to call" rule on any decision within a certain range rather than measuring some guy's armpit against another guy's testicles.

Having said that, great to see Leicester win the game. Chelsea totally dominated the first half without ever looking like scoring - that is their main problem right now, toothless unless playing against a high line.

For the famous save, you have to see it in real time to get the full effect. Mount connected with it so well and to get down to it and push it away was amazing.

canefan

@kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:

As controversial VAR decisions go this season, that one was a but ho hum, first time they showed it, you knew it would be given. Offside has not had clear and obvious applied to it - just coloured lines. I think there are too many inaccuracies in play for them to be measuring to that level - for example, it is impossible to select the exact moment the pass was played. You are actually selecting the frame closest to the pass. Switch it one frame and the offside can look very different. As such they should have a "too close to call" rule on any decision within a certain range rather than measuring some guy's armpit against another guy's testicles.

Absolutely the tolerance levels they apply to the decisions are far too strict. You shouldn't give an offside on the evidence that the tip of a player's foot or hand crossed the line

sparky

Allison scores the winner in stoppage time for Liverpool. First goal by a keeper in Liverpool 129 year history, fine bullet header. Best enjoyed with the French commentary:

KiwiPie

What a weekend for Chelsea.

  • Lose the FA Cup Final 1-0

  • Lose the Womens Champions League Final 4-0

  • Their main rival for a top 4 place score a winning goal by their goalkeeper when time is up.

Cyclops

I love it when a keeper comes up for a late corner. Decent header too, maybe Liverpool could use him more often.

Bovidae

Piss poor defending by WBA though. A player on the far post stops that.

Cyclops

@bovidae defenders on the posts seem to have gone out of style. I don't really understand why.

African Monkey

@cyclops Moreso in England as they try zonal marking and use the extra man to launch counter attacks. In serie a, the man on the far post is used more often as there's a lot less focus on playing on the counter there.

bayimports

First round of playoffs in championship overnight

Bournemouth 1- 0 Brentford
Barnsley 0-1 Swansea

Reverse legs this weekend. Still all are very open and the nerves are certainly there.

mariner4life

the latest LOL is the chat that Brendan Rdogers' succesful season with Leicester means he is ready to once again join a big club

a big club like Spurs or Arsenal....

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canefan

@mariner4life said in EPL 2020/2021:

the latest LOL is the chat that Brendan Rdogers' succesful season with Leicester means he is ready to once again join a big club

a big club like Spurs or Arsenal....

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The Leicester owners have money, and seem very supportive. And the two London clubs are not very settled right now, and I would not want to work for Daniel Levy unless I got a pretty strong guarantee that I had a big say in transfers

mariner4life

@canefan said in EPL 2020/2021:

@mariner4life said in EPL 2020/2021:

the latest LOL is the chat that Brendan Rdogers' succesful season with Leicester means he is ready to once again join a big club

a big club like Spurs or Arsenal....

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The Leicester owners have money, and seem very supportive. And the two London clubs are not very settled right now, and I would not want to work for Daniel Levy unless I got a pretty strong guarantee that I had a big say in transfers

the joke is in thinking that either or those clubs are actually bigger than Leicester.

Leicester in things.

canefan

@mariner4life said in EPL 2020/2021:

@canefan said in EPL 2020/2021:

@mariner4life said in EPL 2020/2021:

the latest LOL is the chat that Brendan Rdogers' succesful season with Leicester means he is ready to once again join a big club

a big club like Spurs or Arsenal....

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The Leicester owners have money, and seem very supportive. And the two London clubs are not very settled right now, and I would not want to work for Daniel Levy unless I got a pretty strong guarantee that I had a big say in transfers

the joke is in thinking that either or those clubs are actually bigger than Leicester.

Leicester in things.

Well they've certainly won more trophies than Spurs in the last 20 years....

Bovidae

No way Rodgers leaves.

However, Kane has indicated he wants out. But who can afford him?

canefan

@bovidae said in EPL 2020/2021:

No way Rodgers leaves.

However, Kane has indicated he wants out. But who can afford him?

Heresay at the moment. But if he does want to go I couldn't blame him

MajorStokes

@mariner4life said in EPL 2020/2021:

@canefan said in EPL 2020/2021:

@mariner4life said in EPL 2020/2021:

the latest LOL is the chat that Brendan Rdogers' succesful season with Leicester means he is ready to once again join a big club

a big club like Spurs or Arsenal....

View image

The Leicester owners have money, and seem very supportive. And the two London clubs are not very settled right now, and I would not want to work for Daniel Levy unless I got a pretty strong guarantee that I had a big say in transfers

the joke is in thinking that either or those clubs are actually bigger than Leicester.

Leicester in things.

Depends on how you define big. Bigger stadiums, bigger fan base - indeed.

Bigger trophy cabinet. Perhaps not.

junior

@canefan said in EPL 2020/2021:

@mariner4life said in EPL 2020/2021:

the latest LOL is the chat that Brendan Rdogers' succesful season with Leicester means he is ready to once again join a big club

a big club like Spurs or Arsenal....

View image

The Leicester owners have money, and seem very supportive. And the two London clubs are not very settled right now, and I would not want to work for Daniel Levy unless I got a pretty strong guarantee that I had a big say in transfers

He would be mad to join Spurs given the latest murmurings that Kane is off elsewhere (probably one of the Manchester clubs).

Cyclops

Chelsea get the revenge match win and if Liverpool and Leicester both win out it will go to goal difference for the final spot (unless Chelsea drop points).

Liverpool have the slightly better run in of the two so you'd think they're favourites, although they have an extra game and therefore an extra chance to slip up.

Spurs champions league hopes are dead now.

In non epl news, my favourite little football club, Eibar in la Liga are also guaranteed to be relegated from la Liga. They lasted many seasons more than anyone expected, being based in town with a population of about 28,000 and a home ground with a capacity of about 8000.

MajorStokes

@cyclops said in EPL 2020/2021:

Chelsea get the revenge match win and if Liverpool and Leicester both win out it will go to goal difference for the final spot (unless Chelsea drop points).

Liverpool have the slightly better run in of the two so you'd think they're favourites, although they have an extra game and therefore an extra chance to slip up.

Spurs champions league hopes are dead now.

In non epl news, my favourite little football club, Eibar in la Liga are also guaranteed to be relegated from la Liga. They lasted many seasons more than anyone expected, being based in town with a population of about 28,000 and a home ground with a capacity of about 8000.

It could be a pretty crazy Sunday. If Liverpool win tonight (away to Burnley), then they will nudge out Leicester and on Saturday it'll be Chelsea 67, Liverpool & Leicster on 66 with superior goal diff (1+winning margin tonight)

If they lose tonight, then Chelsea are in, and Leicester are in the box seat needing only point on Sunday.

Sunday matches are Leicster home to Spurs, Chelsea away to Villa & Liverpool home to Palace. Chelsea in control of their destiny, Liverpool & Leicester not!

Bovidae

Chris Wood must be due some more goals.

Cyclops

Big win for Liverpool gives the a bit of a buffer on goal difference meaning they're all but guaranteed if they can beat Crystal Palace. If they both win, Leicester need to win by 4 goals more than Liverpool do. That puts them level on goal difference but ahead on goals scored (unless you have some Micky mouse Liverpool win 5-4 and Leicester win 5-0 in which case they stay level on goals scored and the tie breaker is head to head record which Liverpool win).

Leicester have Spurs. A win there means spurs likely miss out on Europe and potentially finish as low as 9th. Don't say it too loud, but an Arsenal win and a Spurs loss mean the first St Totteringham's day in I don't know how long.

canefan

@cyclops said in EPL 2020/2021:

Big win for Liverpool gives the a bit of a buffer on goal difference meaning they're all but guaranteed if they can beat Crystal Palace. If they both win, Leicester need to win by 4 goals more than Liverpool do. That puts them level on goal difference but ahead on goals scored (unless you have some Micky mouse Liverpool win 5-4 and Leicester win 5-0 in which case they stay level on goals scored and the tie breaker is head to head record which Liverpool win).

Leicester have Spurs. A win there means spurs likely miss out on Europe and potentially finish as low as 9th. Don't say it too loud, but an Arsenal win and a Spurs loss mean the first St Totteringham's day in I don't know how long.

Spurs could easily roll over again. We have lost our heart and soul, and now we will lose Harry. Major rebuild time

bayimports

Bournemouth are out after second leg last night. The red card after about 20 minutes changed the game significantly and we were really just hanging in there at that point. Not debating the foul, just changed the game. Good luck the Bees

canefan

@bayimports said in EPL 2020/2021:

Bournemouth are out after second leg last night. The red card after about 20 minutes changed the game significantly and we were really just hanging in there at that point. Not debating the foul, just changed the game. Good luck the Bees

They will be hoping it's second time lucky

KiwiPie

@bayimports said in EPL 2020/2021:

Bournemouth are out after second leg last night. The red card after about 20 minutes changed the game significantly and we were really just hanging in there at that point. Not debating the foul, just changed the game. Good luck the Bees

When I saw the red in real time I thought "hmm, harsh" then the replay showed he had basically tap tackled and changed my mind - red all day. And stupid as well so early in the game and after an early goal.

dogmeat

Remarkably similar table at season end to last year. Only six teams moved more than two places from their 19/20 finishing position. Leeds as a promoted side, West Ham who jumped nine places to their best finish this century and Villa up six after just averting relegation last year were the positives.

Sheffield down 11 were the obvious losers but Burnley down 7 and Wolves six also lost ground.

The theoretical safety number (i.e. one point above the drop zones) was 29 the lowest ever.

Stupid fucking Fulham took 8 points off the top 5 but only 5 from the five teams immediately above them!

mariner4life

Liverpool sneak to 3rd thanks to the teams around them completely shitting the bed.

It speaks volumes about the quality on display that City finished that far in front despite only having a points total that would have seen them smashed in to 2nd over the past few years.

Flawed teams everywhere.

Bovidae

Second year in a row that Leicester City have a late-season meltdown to miss out on a CL place. While they will be disappointed I think the fans will prefer the FA Cup and EL to only the CL.

Kiwiwomble

have to say, as a bit of a premier league neutral its cool to see Leicester (and west ham) up there, shows they can be semi sustainable, in leicester's case they didn't win and then plummet quickly

junior

@mariner4life said in EPL 2020/2021:

Liverpool sneak to 3rd thanks to the teams around them completely shitting the bed.

It speaks volumes about the quality on display that City finished that far in front despite only having a points total that would have seen them smashed in to 2nd over the past few years.

Flawed teams everywhere.

Function of the season than any inherent lack of quality across the league, IMO. It's no surprise that Man City and Man U finished in second and third given the quality in their squads - much better able than anyone else, including Liverpool, to deal with the injuries that would inevitably come from such a tight schedule. Had Chelski had Tuchel from the start of the season, I am sure they would have finished above 'Pool based on that fact alone.

It will be interesting to see what happens next season, which is expected to be more "normal". Even then, a lot of guys will not get a decent break because of the Euros and Copa America.

MajorStokes

Klopp can whine as much as he wants about injuries, but the main reason his squad didn't challenge is because his front 3 completely forgot how to score goals for about two months. Goals for / against went from 85 / 33 to 68 / 42, VVD loss definitely contributed the 42 to 33, but the 85 to 62 is all on the strikers.

@majorrage said in EPL 2020/2021:

Klopp can whine as much as he wants about injuries, but the main reason his squad didn't challenge is because his front 3 completely forgot how to score goals for about two months. Goals for / against went from 85 / 33 to 68 / 42, VVD loss definitely contributed the 42 to 33, but the 85 to 62 is all on the strikers.

A bit simplistic though. They did lose Jota on attack and having to play Henderson at CB affected their attack. Also TAA and Robertson both had more defensive duties.

Injuries are injuries though. They happen and other teams just have to deal with them.

@mariner4life said in EPL 2020/2021:

Liverpool sneak to 3rd thanks to the teams around them completely shitting the bed.

It speaks volumes about the quality on display that City finished that far in front despite only having a points total that would have seen them smashed in to 2nd over the past few years.

Flawed teams everywhere.

Teams have won the league with a lot less points. United once won it with 75 points, only one more than they got this season. I think it was just a better league this season, with many more competitive teams.