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@dogmeat said in EPL 2020/2021:
NARRICH
Yes we have a winner. 3rd in 92/93 then went on to knock Bayern Munich out of the UEFA Cup. Glory days. Ruel Fox went on to star at Newcastle and Chris Sutton won the title with Blackburn and is all over the radio these days.
@kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:
@dogmeat said in EPL 2020/2021:
NARRICH
Yes we have a winner. 3rd in 92/93 then went on to knock Bayern Munich out of the UEFA Cup. Glory days. Ruel Fox went on to star at Newcastle and Chris Sutton won the title with Blackburn and is all over the radio these days.
And ironically back in the EPL next season
@kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:
If the top 6 each season were given the points 10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 1 for positions 1-6, list the top 10 clubs in order. (The top club has 218 points and the 10th has 20 points)
- Manchester United 218
- Manchester City 92
Complete the rest.
@cyclops said in EPL 2020/2021:
Arsenal presumably 2 and Chelsea 3. Maybe Liverpool 4, Everton 6? Spurs 7? Leicester sneaking in at 10.
- Manchester United 218
- Arsenal 143
- Chelsea 136
- Liverpool 113
- Manchester City 92
@canefan said in EPL 2020/2021:
@kiwipie Spurs at 6, Everton 7
- Manchester United 218
- Arsenal 143
- Chelsea 136
- Liverpool 113
- Manchester City 92
- Spurs 44
And so you don't guess every position for them, Everton are in 12th - they don't call the battle for 7th place The Everton Cup for nothing.
@canefan said in EPL 2020/2021:
@kiwipie How about Leicester at 7 then? They've had a number of great or good years, and the drop off will be steep from here I reckon
11th with 14 points - one title and 2 5th place finishes.
What about rovers at 10? Won in the early years of the EPL and maybe a few other decent finishes before they got dropped out.
@cyclops said in EPL 2020/2021:
What about rovers at 10? Won in the early years of the EPL and maybe a few other decent finishes before they got dropped out.
They are in the top 10 but higher than 10th.
@cyclops said in EPL 2020/2021:
Okay let's try 7 Rovers, 8 Aston Villa, 9 Leeds and 10 Newcastle
- Manchester United 218
- Arsenal 143
- Chelsea 136
- Liverpool 113
- Manchester City 92
- Spurs 44
- Leeds 22
You have the other 3, just the wrong positions.
@canefan said in EPL 2020/2021:
@kiwipie Rovers in 8. They've been away for some time now. Villa at 10, Newcastle in 7
i followed rovers for ages, no way they can be higher than 8th
@cyclops said in EPL 2020/2021:
Must be 7 Newcastle, 8 Rovers, 10 Villas.
Out of interest, where do West Ham come in this? Newcastle have a better record than I realised.
- Manchester United 218
- Arsenal 143
- Chelsea 136
- Liverpool 113
- Manchester City 92
- Spurs 44
- Newcastle 37
- Blackburn 25
- Leeds 22
- Aston Villa 20
West Ham have the 6th they just achieved and a 5th back in 1998/99. So their rank is 15th below Forest and Norwich. Newcastle were runners-up to United for 2 consecutive seasons and also have 2 third finishes.
Final question for the day!
If the European Super League "Big Six" were decided using this scoring method after the first 10 seasons of EPL, who would be in the 6?
@cyclops said in EPL 2020/2021:
Hmm I can't remember when Abramovich bought Chelsea.
So Man u and Arsenal the obvious options. Rovers, Leeds, Villa and Newcastle my pick for the others.
Correct except for Villa.
@kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:
@cyclops said in EPL 2020/2021:
Hmm I can't remember when Abramovich bought Chelsea.
So Man u and Arsenal the obvious options. Rovers, Leeds, Villa and Newcastle my pick for the others.
Correct except for Villa.
Then I guess Chelski make it
@canefan said in EPL 2020/2021:
@kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:
@cyclops said in EPL 2020/2021:
Hmm I can't remember when Abramovich bought Chelsea.
So Man u and Arsenal the obvious options. Rovers, Leeds, Villa and Newcastle my pick for the others.
Correct except for Villa.
Then I guess Chelski make it
Nope, 8th behind Villa in 7th.
@kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:
@canefan said in EPL 2020/2021:
@kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:
@cyclops said in EPL 2020/2021:
Hmm I can't remember when Abramovich bought Chelsea.
So Man u and Arsenal the obvious options. Rovers, Leeds, Villa and Newcastle my pick for the others.
Correct except for Villa.
Then I guess Chelski make it
Nope, 8th behind Villa in 7th.
Can't be Spurs. Too many dire years. Hey, what about Liverpool?
@canefan said in EPL 2020/2021:
@kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:
@canefan said in EPL 2020/2021:
@kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:
@cyclops said in EPL 2020/2021:
Hmm I can't remember when Abramovich bought Chelsea.
So Man u and Arsenal the obvious options. Rovers, Leeds, Villa and Newcastle my pick for the others.
Correct except for Villa.
Then I guess Chelski make it
Nope, 8th behind Villa in 7th.
Can't be Spurs. Too many dire years
Not a single top 6 finish in the first 10 years of EPL.
Manchester United
Arsenal
Newcastle
Leeds
Blackburn
+1
@kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:
@canefan said in EPL 2020/2021:
@kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:
@canefan said in EPL 2020/2021:
@kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:
@cyclops said in EPL 2020/2021:
Hmm I can't remember when Abramovich bought Chelsea.
So Man u and Arsenal the obvious options. Rovers, Leeds, Villa and Newcastle my pick for the others.
Correct except for Villa.
Then I guess Chelski make it
Nope, 8th behind Villa in 7th.
Can't be Spurs. Too many dire years
Not a single top 6 finish in the first 10 years of EPL.
Manchester United
Arsenal
Newcastle
Leeds
Blackburn
+1
So not Liverpool either?
It's not a team in the all time top 10. Must have been excellent then pooh. Not Norwich again surely?
@kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:
@canefan said in EPL 2020/2021:
@kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:
@canefan said in EPL 2020/2021:
@kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:
@cyclops said in EPL 2020/2021:
Hmm I can't remember when Abramovich bought Chelsea.
So Man u and Arsenal the obvious options. Rovers, Leeds, Villa and Newcastle my pick for the others.
Correct except for Villa.
Then I guess Chelski make it
Nope, 8th behind Villa in 7th.
Can't be Spurs. Too many dire years
Not a single top 6 finish in the first 10 years of EPL.
Manchester United
Arsenal
Newcastle
Leeds
Blackburn
+1
sorry, whats the question?
@kiwiwomble said in EPL 2020/2021:
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@canefan said in EPL 2020/2021:
@kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:
@canefan said in EPL 2020/2021:
@kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:
@cyclops said in EPL 2020/2021:
Hmm I can't remember when Abramovich bought Chelsea.
So Man u and Arsenal the obvious options. Rovers, Leeds, Villa and Newcastle my pick for the others.
Correct except for Villa.
Then I guess Chelski make it
Nope, 8th behind Villa in 7th.
Can't be Spurs. Too many dire years
Not a single top 6 finish in the first 10 years of EPL.
Manchester United
Arsenal
Newcastle
Leeds
Blackburn
+1sorry, whats the question?
Top 6 teams in the first 10 years of EPL based on the same points system
@canefan said in EPL 2020/2021:
@kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:
@canefan said in EPL 2020/2021:
@kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:
@canefan said in EPL 2020/2021:
@kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:
@cyclops said in EPL 2020/2021:
Hmm I can't remember when Abramovich bought Chelsea.
So Man u and Arsenal the obvious options. Rovers, Leeds, Villa and Newcastle my pick for the others.
Correct except for Villa.
Then I guess Chelski make it
Nope, 8th behind Villa in 7th.
Can't be Spurs. Too many dire years
Not a single top 6 finish in the first 10 years of EPL.
Manchester United
Arsenal
Newcastle
Leeds
Blackburn
+1So not Liverpool either?
Yes Liverpool it is - but nobody had said it until then.
That's all for today - but who is interested in entering my Euros competition? Should be launched towards the end of the week. For Euro 2016, @dogmeat was 3rd out of 28 so it is pretty easy to do well (I was 2nd).
@majorrage said in EPL 2020/2021:
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@kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:
Pep cocked up big time in team selection - and they looked lost for most the game. He finally found his top 11 for Europe, then decided that the attacking midfielder with most goals should play in a holding role rather than the 2 guys who can actually do the job well. Picked Sterling despite him always looking ineffectual against a decent defence and Chelsea just put 5 across the pitch and compressed the space. Very, very strange. Chelsea didn't even have to do that much, just grab a goal and sit back. And should still have sealed it with a second.
Have to say, Kante is an absolute machine. The number of times he gets a foot in to nick the ball away is uncanny yet he still finds time to drive his team forward. Well done Chelsea and Tuchel, a well deserved win.
Pep's downfall in this competition is and always has been his overthinking things and departing from what's been proven to work. I am no fan of City, but have today felt quite sorry for them as they've been the best team in the CL this year by some margin and that's why they managed finally to make it to the final (in other years, they've not been the best and that's why they've regularly been beaten over two legs in the earlier knockout stages). Again, however, Pep has guilded the lily and in doing so has probably cost his club a CL trophy.
They've been the best team in the CL apart from the other team which beat them and became champions.
But yes, lets make it all about Pep & City. It was so nice of them to let that other team, whoever they are, have their day.
How's that chip on your shoulder, chief? Anyone would think you're an AB supporter with that attitude...
I didn't say that to shit on Chelsea, who obviously have also been fantastic and were deserved winners. When I said that City were the best team in the CL this year, I meant overall and up to the final. Obviously, they were deservedly beaten in the final by a Chelsea team who were setup well and executed almost perfectly, but let's not pretend that Chelsea were amazing throughout the entire competition.