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@Canes4life although from what I have seen, LIV has better support outside the US, particularly places like Aus where the PGA dont go anyway.

Hopefully there will be some common ground in the near future, while LIV has alot of cash, it surely isnt unlimited meaning if more and more want to jump, the sign on bonuses will drop.

PGA need to pull thier heads out and find a way forward where both exist, but I think for that to happen, probably the head of both PGA (Jay Monahan) and LIV (Greg Norman) will need to step down, seems alot of ego there.

LIV Aus was indeed awesome but a lot of that is due to the Aussie crowd that, lets be honest, would have turned up to watch pretty much any sport put on in a similar environment.

I've watched a of heap of LIV (and golf in general) and the atmosphere and vibe event was sooo much better than all the others . Right now for me, from a spectacle point of view, its still LPGA then LIV, with PGA a long way behind (unless its a major)

Gee not a day for good news.

Just read the my old mate Mike Hendry has been diagnosed with leukaemia. He’d qualified for the open this year too, plus a young family. Gutted.

@JK Awful to hear that. Played golf and cricket with/against him.

@Tim Yeah mate. Shithouse.

Let's hope he can win this fight

Fox in the hunt at the US PGA. Only 3 off the lead in 7th place after the first round.

Brooks in the mix again

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That's not a great photo to showcase his athleticism...

Poor start from Fox. Dropped two shots already through 7

Block, the club pro, just got a hole in 1. Amazing scenes!!!

@MajorRage dunked

Some guy from a bush league wins the PGA. Congrats Brooks.

I always thought coexistence was inevitable. But this is quicker than I expected

somehow the egos of Monahan and Norman were able to come to an agreement and the tours will be able to co exist.

I don't imagine all those huge signing bonuses on the LIV tour will be about anymore, so those already made some abnormally large coin just to join, although I expect they will still be tied to LIV in whatever form it takes going forward.

In the end, this is the best outcome.

@taniwharugby said in Golf:

somehow the egos of Monahan and Norman were able to come to an agreement and the tours will be able to co exist.

I don't imagine all those huge signing bonuses on the LIV tour will be about anymore, so those already made some abnormally large coin just to join, although I expect they will still be tied to LIV in whatever form it takes going forward.

In the end, this is the best outcome.

I see there are PGA players feeling a little butthurt about being told that LIV was the enemy for 2 years. They should console themselves with the fact that LIV has improved their conditions, and I'm sure there will be more monetary opportunities for them all. They should have realised this was purely a battle for leverage over the money that the game generates

@canefan ha yep, what are they gonna do, retire?

If they didnt see this as an inevitable outcome, albeit it a bit sooner than anticipated, then they were pretty naive!

@taniwharugby said in Golf:

@canefan ha yep, what are they gonna do, retire?

If they didnt see this as an inevitable outcome, albeit it a bit sooner than anticipated, then they were pretty naive!

In fact, behind the scenes, they should have been making big demands on the PGA to improve things. Or based on the new special tournaments, maybe they did?

I agree, all this whining seems very to smack of naivete. A bunch of them are mates anyway

@canefan yea I think alot of the stuff in media was orchestrated.

@taniwharugby said in Golf:

@canefan yea I think alot of the stuff in media was orchestrated.

By my count, the rebels won't even probably miss one Ryder Cup? Brooks, Bryson et al be like

Tiger Woods passing on that reported $800M be like

Currently in the US.

Spent time in Sausalito / Tiburon surrounded by houses / ppl worth 10mm plus.

Spent time in SF around ppl pissing and shitting in the streets.

Excuse me for not being happy for a whole bunch of ppl worth 20mm+ now being worth 50mm+.

Whole thing makes me ill.

It's pretty dire behaviour from Jay Monahan and the PGA tour.

More than happy to allow 9/11 families to lead the charge against LIV, and rail from the highest of horses. But now Jay's played 36 with Yasir Al-Rummayyan everything's sweet.

Also, this is not a merger. This is the PIF basically taking a minority stake in the PGA tour. Very likely it means the end of LIV golf. I hope it doesn't end the global spread of tournaments, but I fear it might end that as well.

@barbarian plenty to be rightfully pissed, but probably not too many can now stand on those morals and retire though.

Amazing how 1 man (Monahan) can effectively wield so much power though

The PGA tour is supposed to be a member based organisation. It's pretty unfathomable he'd do this without first consulting with his members.

@barbarian I am not sure about international tournaments. I think that will be one of the positives to come out of this as well as new ideas on format and ambiance.

Time will tell. I hope it grows the global game, but the popularity of golf in Australia has never been a mystery to the PGA tour - they just don't care. I hope that changes but I am not optimistic.

These golfers are acting pretty damn butthurt over the LIV PGA peace deal. Are they more niave than I gave them credit for? What did they think was going to happen? I hope they didn't assume the PGA had their best interests at heart and that they weren't simply pawns in a power play?

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These golfers are acting pretty damn butthurt over the LIV PGA peace deal. Are they more niave than I gave them credit for? What did they think was going to happen? I hope they didn't assume the PGA had their best interests at heart and that they weren't simply pawns in a power play?

Fair shout IMHO

@canefan said in Golf:

These golfers are acting pretty damn butthurt over the LIV PGA peace deal. Are they more niave than I gave them credit for? What did they think was going to happen? I hope they didn't assume the PGA had their best interests at heart and that they weren't simply pawns in a power play?

What did they think was going to happen?

Well, I suspect when they took a stand against LIV by not signing on for 200mm, I think they thought they would have had the backing of their employers who they were staying loyal to & had both publicly and privately made their intentions clear to stand together.

Instead, all that happened is that those that didn't stay loyal, banked 200mm, and ended up with all the same rights.

If I was Rahm or McIlroy, I'd take a look at my bank balance, realise I never had to work again and walk away forever.

EDIT: In my view, that is the only thing you can do if you want to be stand by your principles. Well, or quit the PGA and become a European tour only.

Back on action on the ground ...

Fox in the clubhouse 6 off the lead at The US Open. Tied 9th currently.

Still plenty out on the grass though.

Great to see the young man win his first professional title in his rookie year. Earns himself a spot at The Open Championship.

The 151st Open Championship is underway at Royal Liverpool Golf Club.
McIlroy, Scheffler & Jon Rahm among the main favourites.
Kiwi Ryan Fox out on the course sitting at -1 through 7 and in a tie for 2nd

My fav major, just ahead of the masters.

The first tee is pretty tight. Not many finding the fair way. Really interesting course. 5th is a super short par 5, only 480yards

@JK said in Golf:

My fav major, just ahead of the masters.

The first tee is pretty tight. Not many finding the fair way. Really interesting course. 5th is a super short par 5, only 480yards

As always with links courses, you need to take into account the prevailing wind. I played Royal North Devon once when the wind was opposite to the usual and a couple of guys drove a par 5. Normally lucky to get there in three.

@Catogrande

Yeah mate, I’ve played a bit of golf before and my local track is links.

It’s a funny hole the 5th with second shot often longer than the first (I hate holes like that!).

@JK

Seve did something like that on one of those “being filmed, having a chat, playing a round”.

So Seve, short par four, what will you take?

Wedge, driver.

You mean driver, wedge.

No.

And yes, he made the green.

Tommy Fleetwood leads the Open - no interview

McIlroy scrapes a par - wankfest

What gives?

In other news, Hoylake a beautiful course and part of the world